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Air Transat To Europe - S12  
User currently offlineLIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 6995 times:

Air Transat has just loaded up the S12 schedule to Europe.

These are the confirmed routes so far :

Calgary-Amsterdam
Calgary-Frankfurt
Calgary-Paris CDG

Montreal-Bordeaux
Montreal-Brussels
Montreal-Basel
Montreal-Istanbul
Montreal-Lyon
Montreal-London Gatwick
Montreal-Marseille
Montreal-Nantes
Montreal-Nice
Montreal-Paris CDG
Montreal-Rome
Montreal-Toulouse
Montreal-Venice

Quebec City-Marseille
Quebec City-Paris CDG

Toronto-Amsterdam
Toronto-Birmingham
Toronto-Frankfurt
Toronto-Glasgow
Toronto-Istanbul
Toronto-Lamezia Terme
Toronto-London Gatwick
Toronto-Munich
Toronto-Manchester
Toronto-Paris CDG
Toronto-Pescara
Toronto-Rome
Toronto-Venice

Vancouver-Amsterdam
Vancouver-Frankfurt
Vancouver-Glasgow
Vancouver-Paris CDG


No trace of Austria, Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain.



[Edited 2011-09-14 11:46:11]

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User currently offlineflyyul From Italy, joined Jun 2000, 4980 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 6822 times:

I see schedules for all except for Barcelona

User currently offlinefly2yyz From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1045 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6635 times:

As its being reported on another thread that TS will be leaving VIE and HAM due to lack of equipment as the 330s, the airline has been taking on, are too large for these two destinations. The articles are down below. If someone wants to translate.

http://www.welt.de/print/die_welt/wi...-Transat-sagt-Hamburg-Goodbye.html

http://www.austrianaviation.net/news...t-nimmt-wien-aus-dem-programm.html


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11655 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6610 times:

Quoting LIPZ (Thread starter):
Air Transat has just loaded up the S12 schedule to Europe.

I thought they had been there for ages, I'm sure months in fact.

Quoting LIPZ (Thread starter):
Vancouver-Amsterdam
Vancouver-Frankfurt
Vancouver-Glasgow
Vancouver-Paris CDG

You also have LGW, some flights via Edmonton I believe. I was looking at their flights actually last night, others on offer include Exeter to Toronto via Newcastle.


Dan  



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User currently offlineplanesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6299 times:

Info from inside LGW is that they will be operating 21 weekly flight there.

With the removal of the A310 and routes being dropped for over capacity operating an A330 on the route, could TS look out for some 763ERs to operate the routes, especially with the potential number becoming available following the removal of fleets with the intoduction of the 787?


User currently offlinematt From Canada, joined May 1999, 694 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6279 times:

Any routes from YHZ?


Next flights: YQM-YYZ-YOW v.v. / YQM-CUN v.v. / YQM-YUL-YWG v.v. / YSJ-YYZ-SEA-SFO / SFO-YYZ-YOW-YQM / YQM-YYZ-MUC-TXL /
User currently offlineheathrow From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 979 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6245 times:

I thought LHR was year round from YYZ?

User currently offlinefly2yyz From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1045 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 6196 times:

Quoting heathrow (Reply 6):

I thought LHR was year round from YYZ?

LGW is the year round flight with this winter YYZ-LGW going 5 weekly.

Quoting planesailing (Reply 4):
could TS look out for some 763ERs to operate the routes

I would say some nice 762s would be perfect... A310 and 762s were competitor aircrafts no? And there's a whole bunch of 762s leaving another company I hear...   heh...one can dream.


User currently offlinegilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3024 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (3 years 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5795 times:

Quoting planesailing (Reply 4):
With the removal of the A310 and routes being dropped for over capacity operating an A330 on the route, could TS look out for some 763ERs to operate the routes, especially with the potential number becoming available following the removal of fleets with the intoduction of the 787?

Not all the A310's are vanishing next year, unless people know otherwise?

I thought the A310's were due to depart gradually between Nov 2011 and 2015.


User currently onlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1871 posts, RR: 41
Reply 9, posted (3 years 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5657 times:
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Very interesting to see YYC-AMS on this list! Which equipment will be used on this route?

Rgds



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User currently onlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (3 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5219 times:

Quoting heathrow (Reply 6):
I thought LHR was year round from YYZ?
Quoting fly2yyz (Reply 7):
LGW is the year round flight with this winter YYZ-LGW going 5 weekly.

I presume LHR-YYZ returns next Summer though?



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User currently offlinecaaardiff From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2006, 191 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5180 times:

Also YYZ-NCL/EXT bookable, but not on schedule page.

User currently offlinefly2yyz From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1045 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5175 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 10):
I presume LHR-YYZ returns next Summer though?


If it does...it'd be weekend service only like it was this summer... I hope it does come back... its an interesting route to see a sched charter on the route.


User currently offlineFerminios From Canada, joined Apr 2011, 101 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5161 times:

Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 9):

YYC-AMS has been there for years in the summer, only once a week though with a 330  

Does anyone have a list of frequencies? This only gives the picture to a limited extent  


User currently offlinethenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2491 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (3 years 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4962 times:

looks like AC's ATH and BCN routes from YUL and YYZ pushed TS out of these markets.

Thenoflyzone



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User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4175 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (3 years 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4961 times:

Interesting that DUB is listed in their schedule online, at seemingly an increased frequency?

Anyone know what is going on with the Ireland routes next year?



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User currently offlineYXD172 From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4511 times:

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 8):

Not all the A310's are vanishing next year, unless people know otherwise?

I thought the A310's were due to depart gradually between Nov 2011 and 2015.

I don't think they're all leaving at once, as the current schedules show A310s operating through the summer, but as they're retired some destinations are being dropped.

Quoting Ferminios (Reply 13):

Does anyone have a list of frequencies? This only gives the picture to a limited extent

Here's a sample week (July 9-16 2012) and the freq's from the TS Long-Term Schedules (NOTE: Some flights may have stopovers, I've included them with the rest) :

YYC-AMS 1 x A332
YYC-CDG 1 x A332
YYC-FRA 2 x A332
YYC-GLA 1 x A333
YYC-LGW 3 x A333
YYC-MAN 2 x A332

YEG-LGW 1 x A333

YUL-AGP 1 x A310
YUL-ATH 1 x A332 1 x A333
YUL-BCN 2 x A310 + 1 x A332
YUL-BOD 2 x A310
YUL-BRU 2 x A310 + 1 x A333
YUL-BSL 1 x A310
YUL-CDG 12 x A333 + 1 x A332 + 1 x A310 (Spread evenly as 2 daily flights)
YUL-DUB 1 x A310
YUL-FCO 5 x A310 + 1 x A333
YUL-IST 1 x A332
YUL-LGW 1 x A310
YUL-LYS 3 x A310 + 1 x A333
YUL-MAD 1 x A310
YUL-MRS 3 x A310 + 1 x A333
YUL-NCE 2 x A310
YUL-NTE 2 x A310
YUL-TLS 1 x A310 + 1 x A333
YUL-VCE 1 x A333

YQB-MRS 1 x A310
YQB-CDG 3 x A310 + 1 x A332 (The A332 seems to be only YQB-CDG, not CDG-YQB)

YYZ-AMS 3 x A310 + 1 x A332
YYZ-ATH 3 x A332
YYZ-BCN 1 x A333 + 1 x A332 + 1 x A310
YYZ-BHX 1 x A332
YYZ-CDG 4 x A332 + 2 x A310
YYZ-DUB 4 x A310 + 1 x A332
YYZ-FCO 5 x A332 + 2 x A310
YYZ-FRA 5 x A310
YYZ-GLA 6 x A310 + 1 x A332 (1 Daily flight))
YYZ-IST 1 x A332
YYZ-LGW 8 x A332 + 2 x A333 + 1 x A310
YYZ-MAD 1 x A310
YYZ-MAN 4 x A310 + 2 x A332
YYZ-MUC 1 x A310
YYZ-PSR 1 x A310
YYZ-SNN 1 x A332
YYZ-SUF 1 x A332
YYZ-VCE 1 x A332

YVR-AMS 3 x A332
YVR-CDG 3 x A332
YVR-GLA 1 x A332
YVR-LGW 6 x A332
YVR-MAN 2 x A332
YVR-FRA 4 x A332

So looks like ATH, DUB, BCN, AGP, and MAD have been loaded, but still no sign of VIE or anywhere in Portugal (LIS stops after 2 weekly flights throughout the winter). Still, not too many destinations dropped overall, though some such as MUC lost most service.



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User currently offlinegkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24936 posts, RR: 56
Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4346 times:

YYZ-EXT-NCL-YYZ 1 x weekly A330


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User currently offlinefly2yyz From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1045 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4195 times:

Quoting thenoflyzone (Reply 14):
looks like AC's ATH and BCN routes from YUL and YYZ pushed TS out of these markets.

So in otherwords, how long will it take for AC to say that the routes are unprofitable and leave the markets.


User currently offlineAirNovaBAe146 From Canada, joined Jun 2008, 362 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3809 times:

Quoting YXD172 (Reply 16):
I don't think they're all leaving at once, as the current schedules show A310s operating through the summer, but as they're retired some destinations are being dropped.

Any word on if TS is planning a replacement for the A310s? That is going to leave a huge gap in their fleet.

Somebody mentioned used B762ERs.
I'd think a B767-300ER would fill in nicely and offer good flexibility, but its capacity is not much less than their A330.

Something like A321s or B739s, which would allow them good capacity for Caribbean runs, plus hopefully offer a seating advantage that they could use to beat WestJet Vacations, AC, and Sunwing to those destinations. Problem is, those aircraft wouldn't be able to do the TATL work that the A310s can. Finding something that fits their needs and hits the sweet some for crossing the Atlantic plus doing the Caribbean like the A310 will be tough.


User currently offlinefly2yyz From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1045 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3749 times:

I would say they would be looking at either 767s 200s or 300s or the 757....

User currently offlinegkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24936 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3736 times:

Quoting fly2yyz (Reply 20):
the 757....

Which they got rid of to be replaced by A310s?!?



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User currently offlinefly2yyz From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1045 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3668 times:

Which I'd say they would bring back if it suits them and their needs.

User currently offlineAirNovaBAe146 From Canada, joined Jun 2008, 362 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3481 times:

Quoting fly2yyz (Reply 22):
Which I'd say they would bring back if it suits them and their needs.

...whhich they'll have a hard time finding on the used aircraft market as FedEx is scooping them all up...


User currently offlinegilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3024 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3345 times:

Anyone know if Thomas Cook are still operating to Canada next year?

Nearly all Air Transat flights are sold through the tour operator Canadian Affair in the UK, and if I remember rightly they were purchased by Air Transat a few years ago.... Previously Canadian Affair's UK to Canada timetable has been split roughly 50/50 operated by both airlines and I think they sort if had a code share agreement in place on the routes and worked alongside to compliment each others timetables.

I notice Canadian Affair, no longer mention anything about the TCX 757's and their 35 inch seat pitch... These operated a lot of the east coast flights to Canada. These were some in my favorite rides across the Atlantic and the pricing compared to scheduled carriers was astounding!


25 BY738 : The 757 TCX Canadian program has gone
26 Aircellist : ... A321NEO ??? Those A310 will be hard to replace... So much for market fragmentation, point-to-point bla bla bla. Of course, we are talking charter
27 YXD172 : From the recent Thomas Cook thread and the Canadian Affair website, it doesn't look like they'll be back. They're focusing on shorthaul, and of the r
28 cslusarc : My pet peeve on TS is that they configure both their 332 and 333 with similar number of seating meaning that seating on the 333 is less dense. Is ther
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