fly2yyz From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 972 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5734 times:
As its being reported on another thread that TS will be leaving VIE and HAM due to lack of equipment as the 330s, the airline has been taking on, are too large for these two destinations. The articles are down below. If someone wants to translate.
You also have LGW, some flights via Edmonton I believe. I was looking at their flights actually last night, others on offer include Exeter to Toronto via Newcastle.
planesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 802 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5398 times:
Info from inside LGW is that they will be operating 21 weekly flight there.
With the removal of the A310 and routes being dropped for over capacity operating an A330 on the route, could TS look out for some 763ERs to operate the routes, especially with the potential number becoming available following the removal of fleets with the intoduction of the 787?
fly2yyz From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 972 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5295 times:
Quoting heathrow (Reply 6):
I thought LHR was year round from YYZ?
LGW is the year round flight with this winter YYZ-LGW going 5 weekly.
Quoting planesailing (Reply 4): could TS look out for some 763ERs to operate the routes
I would say some nice 762s would be perfect... A310 and 762s were competitor aircrafts no? And there's a whole bunch of 762s leaving another company I hear... heh...one can dream.
gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2903 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 4894 times:
Quoting planesailing (Reply 4): With the removal of the A310 and routes being dropped for over capacity operating an A330 on the route, could TS look out for some 763ERs to operate the routes, especially with the potential number becoming available following the removal of fleets with the intoduction of the 787?
Not all the A310's are vanishing next year, unless people know otherwise?
I thought the A310's were due to depart gradually between Nov 2011 and 2015.
fly2yyz From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 972 posts, RR: 2 Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 4274 times:
Quoting Humberside (Reply 10): I presume LHR-YYZ returns next Summer though?
If it does...it'd be weekend service only like it was this summer... I hope it does come back... its an interesting route to see a sched charter on the route.
YXD172 From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 433 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3610 times:
Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 8):
Not all the A310's are vanishing next year, unless people know otherwise?
I thought the A310's were due to depart gradually between Nov 2011 and 2015.
I don't think they're all leaving at once, as the current schedules show A310s operating through the summer, but as they're retired some destinations are being dropped.
Quoting Ferminios (Reply 13):
Does anyone have a list of frequencies? This only gives the picture to a limited extent
Here's a sample week (July 9-16 2012) and the freq's from the TS Long-Term Schedules (NOTE: Some flights may have stopovers, I've included them with the rest) :
YYC-AMS 1 x A332
YYC-CDG 1 x A332
YYC-FRA 2 x A332
YYC-GLA 1 x A333
YYC-LGW 3 x A333
YYC-MAN 2 x A332
YEG-LGW 1 x A333
YUL-AGP 1 x A310
YUL-ATH 1 x A332 1 x A333
YUL-BCN 2 x A310 + 1 x A332
YUL-BOD 2 x A310
YUL-BRU 2 x A310 + 1 x A333
YUL-BSL 1 x A310
YUL-CDG 12 x A333 + 1 x A332 + 1 x A310 (Spread evenly as 2 daily flights)
YUL-DUB 1 x A310
YUL-FCO 5 x A310 + 1 x A333
YUL-IST 1 x A332
YUL-LGW 1 x A310
YUL-LYS 3 x A310 + 1 x A333
YUL-MAD 1 x A310
YUL-MRS 3 x A310 + 1 x A333
YUL-NCE 2 x A310
YUL-NTE 2 x A310
YUL-TLS 1 x A310 + 1 x A333
YUL-VCE 1 x A333
YQB-MRS 1 x A310
YQB-CDG 3 x A310 + 1 x A332 (The A332 seems to be only YQB-CDG, not CDG-YQB)
YYZ-AMS 3 x A310 + 1 x A332
YYZ-ATH 3 x A332
YYZ-BCN 1 x A333 + 1 x A332 + 1 x A310
YYZ-BHX 1 x A332
YYZ-CDG 4 x A332 + 2 x A310
YYZ-DUB 4 x A310 + 1 x A332
YYZ-FCO 5 x A332 + 2 x A310
YYZ-FRA 5 x A310
YYZ-GLA 6 x A310 + 1 x A332 (1 Daily flight))
YYZ-IST 1 x A332
YYZ-LGW 8 x A332 + 2 x A333 + 1 x A310
YYZ-MAD 1 x A310
YYZ-MAN 4 x A310 + 2 x A332
YYZ-MUC 1 x A310
YYZ-PSR 1 x A310
YYZ-SNN 1 x A332
YYZ-SUF 1 x A332
YYZ-VCE 1 x A332
YVR-AMS 3 x A332
YVR-CDG 3 x A332
YVR-GLA 1 x A332
YVR-LGW 6 x A332
YVR-MAN 2 x A332
YVR-FRA 4 x A332
So looks like ATH, DUB, BCN, AGP, and MAD have been loaded, but still no sign of VIE or anywhere in Portugal (LIS stops after 2 weekly flights throughout the winter). Still, not too many destinations dropped overall, though some such as MUC lost most service.
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AirNovaBAe146 From Canada, joined Jun 2008, 351 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2908 times:
Quoting YXD172 (Reply 16): I don't think they're all leaving at once, as the current schedules show A310s operating through the summer, but as they're retired some destinations are being dropped.
Any word on if TS is planning a replacement for the A310s? That is going to leave a huge gap in their fleet.
Somebody mentioned used B762ERs.
I'd think a B767-300ER would fill in nicely and offer good flexibility, but its capacity is not much less than their A330.
Something like A321s or B739s, which would allow them good capacity for Caribbean runs, plus hopefully offer a seating advantage that they could use to beat WestJet Vacations, AC, and Sunwing to those destinations. Problem is, those aircraft wouldn't be able to do the TATL work that the A310s can. Finding something that fits their needs and hits the sweet some for crossing the Atlantic plus doing the Caribbean like the A310 will be tough.
gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2903 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2444 times:
Anyone know if Thomas Cook are still operating to Canada next year?
Nearly all Air Transat flights are sold through the tour operator Canadian Affair in the UK, and if I remember rightly they were purchased by Air Transat a few years ago.... Previously Canadian Affair's UK to Canada timetable has been split roughly 50/50 operated by both airlines and I think they sort if had a code share agreement in place on the routes and worked alongside to compliment each others timetables.
I notice Canadian Affair, no longer mention anything about the TCX 757's and their 35 inch seat pitch... These operated a lot of the east coast flights to Canada. These were some in my favorite rides across the Atlantic and the pricing compared to scheduled carriers was astounding!
26 Aircellist: ... A321NEO ??? Those A310 will be hard to replace... So much for market fragmentation, point-to-point bla bla bla. Of course, we are talking charter
27 YXD172: From the recent Thomas Cook thread and the Canadian Affair website, it doesn't look like they'll be back. They're focusing on shorthaul, and of the r
28 cslusarc: My pet peeve on TS is that they configure both their 332 and 333 with similar number of seating meaning that seating on the 333 is less dense. Is ther
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