JosephJarvis From UK - England, joined Apr 2011, 131 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 10780 times:
Hello Everyone,
In the late 1990s and early 2000s, British Airways operated flights to destinations from LGW that are no longer served anymore.
Many of these routes have been ceased for a number of years or were moved to LHR. I am particularly interested in the following routes from LGW and very keen to learn more about these routes:
They are:
Africa:
Abidjan, Ivory Coast
Abuja, Nigeria
Accra, Ghana
Dar es Salaam, Tanzania
Entebbe/Kampala, Uganda
Harare, Zimbabwe
Lagos, Nigeria
Lilongwe, Malawi
Luanda, Angola
Lusaka, Zambia
Mahe, Seychelles
Mauritius
Nairobi, Kenya
Asia:
Almaty, Kazakhstan
Dhahran, Saudi Arabia
Tel Aviv, Israel
North America/Carribbean:
Charlotte, USA
Denver, USA
Grand Cayman Island
Havana, Cuba
Nassau, Bahamas
Pittsburgh, USA
San Jose, Costa Rica
San Juan, Puerto Rico
Europe:
Alicante, Spain
Antwerp, Belgium
Bremen, Germany
Cologne, Germany
Florence, Italy
Gdansk, Poland
Gothenburg, Sweden
Hanover, Germany
Inverness, Scotland
Montpellier, France
Riga, Latvia
Skopje, Macedonia
Trieste, Italy
Vilnius, Lithuania
Zagreb, Croatia
South America:
Bogota, Colombia
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Caracas, Venezuela
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Santiago, Chile
Sao Paulo, Brazil
I am looking for anyone who would be able to provide me with the flight numbers, scheduled departure and arrival times and frequency of these routes (per day(s) and/or per week).
I would be most grateful for any information anyone has on these routes, but I am only looking for this information for LGW, not LHR.
Thank you for your time and I look forward to hearing from you.
DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8771 posts, RR: 13 Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 10761 times:
In the United States, British Airways had flights from Gatwick to the following as well:
-Baltimore (BWI); mix of 767 and 777. At the end, CLT was tagged onto BWI
-Houston (IAH); mix of 747 and 777. Think DC-10s were here at one point. This was pre-Bermuda II ending.
-Dallas (DFW); believe it was mostly 777. Again, another pre-B2 ending route.
-Atlanta (ATL); was a 777 at the end out of Gatwick. Again, blame B2 for moving it to Heathrow
-New York (JFK); mix of 767 and 777s. Ended shortly after B2 ended; BA was going to try and keep one JFK flight to Gatwick but quickly pulled it.
Denver, San Diego and Baltimore got to move over to Heathrow before B2 formally ended as there was no US competition on these routes, and there was a loophole that said if only one airline were to fly to a non-B2 city to London, it could be served from Heathrow. Hence, why IAH (CO), ATL (DL) and DFW (AA) had to stay at Gatwick until Open Skies was reached. San Diego had long been a Heathrow route though, served as a tag from Phoenix.
RIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1785 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 10711 times:
A couple of flight numbers, of my flights from Riga and to JFK in June 2000:
RIX-LGW, B737-400, BA2871, departure 6.45 am
LGW-JFK, B767-300ER, BA2173, departure 10.30 am
JosephJarvis From UK - England, joined Apr 2011, 131 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 10662 times:
Quote: RIX-LGW, B737-400, BA2871, departure 6.45 am
Thank you for your reply, this was helpful. Do you know if there was more than one British Airways LGW-Riga flight, apart from the 06:45am departure? Also do you know what time you arrived back at LGW from Riga?
GOT From Sweden, joined Dec 2000, 1912 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 10320 times:
GOT-LGW was operated up until a couple of months after 9/11 if I'm not mistaken, cancelled and resumed from LHR last November. I believe frequency was 3x/d but there might have been the odd flight not operating Sa or so. One of the flights stayed overnight at GOT, late night arrival, early morning departure and the others should be spread across the day. As for flight numbers, I specifically remember hearing Speedbird 2784 on my scanner back in the days and I believe that was in the afternoon, so I'm guessing 2781-2786, possibly adjusted one or two steps forwards or backwards. Sorry I can't be more specific.
/Robert
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steve6666 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 356 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 9696 times:
Grand Cayman/Nassau was DC10 routed LGW-GCM-NAS-LGW up to either winter98 or summer 99. It was a 767 by summer 1999, routed LGW-NAS-GCM-NAS-LGW. I believe it went a 777 at some point before transferring to LHR (in summer 01 I believe), and the flight numbers were 2253/2252 I believe.
Sao Paulo and Rio were 2246/2247 on the B744. They were overnight in both directions as the flight to GRU from LHR is. Again, this transferred to LHR sometime in 01.
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shankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1472 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 9649 times:
Flew the Cologne route on 25/27 May 1996 with BA...or more accurately BA City Flyer Express. Aircraft were G-BXEG, ATR-42 outbound and G-BVTK ATR-72 inbound
european742 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2010, 86 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 9570 times:
Joseph, send me your e-mail address via my profile, i have a BA timetable valid 29 October 2000 to 24 March 2001, would be more than happy to send you a full list of all flights and frequencies
jonathanxxxx From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 638 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 9503 times:
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 9208 times:
Quoting DeltAirlines (Reply 1): -Houston (IAH); mix of 747 and 777. Think DC-10s were here at one point. This was pre-Bermuda II ending.
IAH had an interesting tag flight that was aimed squarely at oil business. BA had one flight that would fly LHR-ORD-IAH-ORD-LHR. Skirted B2 and allowed them to connect people onward from Heathrow more easily.
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phil747 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 14 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 8864 times:
I flew LGW-TLV-LGW in the late 90's; for while it was a daily service operated initially by 737-400 then DC10. It depated LGW at about 09.00 and returned from TLV at about 5pm; similar timing to the morning service now operated by BA from T5.
european742 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2010, 86 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8217 times:
I remember having to do a bit of work in DUB to help them out and I checked-in the last DUB-LGW flight, was also the last BA flight altogether after flying there for so many years
fxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7027 posts, RR: 93 Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 6919 times:
It's sad to see what LGW has become due to the economy. The last time I flew in there as on AA years a go. It use to be the largest single runway airport in the world.
DariusBieber From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 128 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 6748 times:
I also vividly remember flying a British ATR from Duesseldorf to Gatwick about 10 years ago, with the 777 Connection to DFW. (Also got the chance to take the AA Fokker from DFW to SAT afterwards)
nostrum From Bahamas, joined Jul 2011, 34 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 6424 times:
Flights to Havana, Cuba was a weekly service on Saturdays. BA inaugurated service to HAV in April 1999 with a Boeing 777 and ended in March 2002; thereafter BA placed its code on IB's daily flight to HAV via Madrid. Rumor was that the route was attracting few first-class and business-class passengers.
Virgin Atlantic picked up the route 3 years later using a Boeing 744, with a seating configuration better suitable for the route- less premium and more economy. Initially 2x weekly the flight will be upgraded to 3x on November 5th, 2011. Cubana also operates the route LGW-HAV 2x.
JosephJarvis From UK - England, joined Apr 2011, 131 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 6110 times:
Quoting nostrum (Reply 22): Flights to Havana, Cuba was a weekly service on Saturdays. BA inaugurated service to HAV in April 1999 with a Boeing 777 and ended in March 2002; thereafter BA placed its code on IB's daily flight to HAV via Madrid. Rumor was that the route was attracting few first-class and business-class passengers.
Virgin Atlantic picked up the route 3 years later using a Boeing 744, with a seating configuration better suitable for the route- less premium and more economy. Initially 2x weekly the flight will be upgraded to 3x on November 5th, 2011. Cubana also operates the route LGW-HAV 2x.
Regards.
Thanks for the reply. Do you know what time the BA Havana flights departed and arrived at LGW? Also the flight numbers?
1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5969 times:
Quoting nostrum (Reply 22): Flights to Havana, Cuba was a weekly service on Saturdays. BA inaugurated service to HAV in April 1999 with a Boeing 777 and ended in March 2002; thereafter BA placed its code on IB's daily flight to HAV via Madrid. Rumor was that the route was attracting few first-class and business-class passengers.
Virgin Atlantic picked up the route 3 years later using a Boeing 744, with a seating configuration better suitable for the route- less premium and more economy. Initially 2x weekly the flight will be upgraded to 3x on November 5th, 2011. Cubana also operates the route LGW-HAV 2x.
Regards.
I thought Havana was one of the AML route with the 3-4-3 777s? Some of the routes had to be dropped when the AML arrangement ended because the landing rights were split between BA and JMC (now Thomas Cook).
Sad to see BA's decline at Gatwick. I first flew from there in 1998 and it was full of BA 742s, 744s, DC-10s, 767s and I think the 777 had just started from there. Was there a few weeks ago and just a couple of 777s and the old 737s whilst Easyjet A319s and A320s were all over the place.
25 FlyCaledonian: I've looked up some old BA timetables for Gatwick and the following may be of interest to people: - Winter 1995-96 Longhaul: - * Seychelles - Mauritiu
26 FlyCaledonian: British Airways at London Gatwick - Summer 1998 Notable for the use of the 757 on some shorthaul flights. Longhaul: - * Accra - 2x Weekly D10 * Accra
28 trintocan: I believe that it is still the busiest single runway airport in the world. It actually has 2 runways but both cannot be used simultaneously hence the
29 1stfl94: Also the decision that BA took to de hub Gatwick about 10 years ago. The 744s and 767s all went back to LHR around the same time and many routes not u
30 FlyCaledonian: I think by the Summer of 2001 AML had been dissolved, but he 10-abreast 777s were still operating (BA had just launched New Club World at this point
31 planesailing: Looking at the above, I couldn't imagine the North Terminal catering for all these flights, especially without Pier 6. Where did they board these 747s
32 JosephJarvis: Thank you for your response. Do you know the departure/arrival times and flight numbers of these long haul flights? I would be very grateful if you w
33 european742: To those who have contacted me regarding a full list giving flight numbers, frequencies in winter 2000, for some reason hotmail is not allowing me to
34 skipness1E: It still is, amazes me people judge an airport by the number of legacy carrier long haul routes way too much on here.
35 sk907: Joseph, I have the BA 29 October 1990 - 30 March 1991 timetable. I could photocopy the relevant pages showing the schedule out of LGW, please let me k
36 adriaticflight: British Airways also used to fly to Sarajevo from Gatwick..
37 planesailing: Not necessarily legacy carriers, but long haul routes can represent the most revenue per flight for the airport when the fees are based on aircraft w
38 FlyCaledonian: British Airways at London Gatwick - Summer 1992 Longhaul * Accra - Abidjan - 1x Weekly D10 * Antigua - Barbados - 1x Weekly 742 * Antigua - St Lucia -
40 LGWflyer: All these flights are making me sad! I hope some of the american carriers will come here again soon. I wonder if DL or US will add anymore routes...
41 JosephJarvis: Do you know what the scheduled departure/arrival times are of this flight and the flight numbers? Thank you.
42 1stfl94: Flight was BA35/36, left LGW at 1300, arrived at Manila at 1400 the next day. Return left Manila at 1730 and came back at 0525 next day. (According t
43 sam1987: From your list, I'd love to see the following return: I'd also love to see the following former routes operated from LGW again: Antalya, Turkey Barcel
44 JosephJarvis: Hi everyone, This might sound a bit silly, but on the departure screens at LGW, did flights such as San Juan and San Jose and Caracas and Bogota for e
45 Vasu: Not sure about in the past, but nowadays they come up as "A via B" I think
46 readytotaxi: I seem to recall a BA flight to TFS from LGW, B737, think it was the only airline offering a Club type product from the UK.[Edited 2011-09-27 15:13:28
47 trintocan: NAS and GCM are served from LHR on 767-300ERs. They were moved to LHR specifically because BA wanted to use the 767s, which are all based there, on t
48 heebeegb: flycaledonian thanks for all your info really amazing thank you. Anyone know back in the 90's early 2000's the current LHR-NAS/PLS was this LGW operat
49 LX138: And soon went twice weekly with the addition of a Wednesday flight. When it was pulled it was still twice weekly and apparently profitable. It left L
50 JosephJarvis: Hi everyone, Thank you for your replies, very much appreciated. Anyone who has any timetables from LGW in the 1990s and early 2000s displaying flight
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