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US Airways (West/AWA) To Retire 733 On 11/28  
User currently offlinesmoot4208 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1312 posts, RR: 12
Posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 11062 times:

Looking through the November schedule it appears 11/28 is the last day for the west 733. Schedule is as follows:

11/17: 2 x OMA
2 x SNA
1 x IAH
1 x DFW
1 x ONT
1 x LAS
1 x SJD
1 x PVR

11/28: 1 x OMA
1 x DFW
1 x IAH
1 x SNA
2 x SJD

They are using 3 733s on the last day with the pairings being PHX-OMA-PHX-SNA-PHX; PHX-SJD-PHX-IAH-PHX; PHX-SJD-PHX-DFW-PHX

The last 2 revenue flights are:

Flt 278 Dep 21:06 IAH Arr 23:01 PHX
Flt 550 Dep 23:25 DFW Arr 23:03 PHX

The 733 will continue to operate on the East side with the last 7 scheduled to leave the fleet in 2012. However it still deserves its own thread as America West has had the 737 in their fleet since its inception.

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User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5634 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10997 times:

What's left on the east side and when will they be leaving?

-Dave



Next Trip: SEA-ABQ-SEA on Alaska
User currently offlineFedExFlyerPHL From United States of America, joined May 2008, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10985 times:

I thought all that was left on the East side was -400s.

Jeff



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User currently offlinesmoot4208 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1312 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10967 times:

There are 7 733s left on the East side. All will be retired in 2012.

User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5634 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10923 times:

So they still have -400's then?

-Dave



Next Trip: SEA-ABQ-SEA on Alaska
User currently offlinewn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1057 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10917 times:

Do you know which three will be left? The last time I checked there were four going out of service on 11/29 (ships 302, 305, 332, and 334) and one going out on 12/16 (ship 303), but it looks like that schedule has been revised.


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User currently offlinewn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1057 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10898 times:

Quoting PlanesNTrains (Reply 4):
So they still have -400's then?

-Dave

Yes, they have 40 currently in service. I think one is due to leave this month though...



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User currently offlinePlanesNTrains From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 5634 posts, RR: 29
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 10843 times:

Thanks for the -400 info.

-Dave



Next Trip: SEA-ABQ-SEA on Alaska
User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5193 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 10537 times:

US likes the -400 because it gives them 320esque capacity but cost less to park at airports like MIA.


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User currently offlinebmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 10374 times:

Ships 314 & 315 have both had their titles removed, and are flying in basic US Airways scheme... presumably next to be wfu?

User currently offlineFRNT787 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1324 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 9919 times:

Well now Im glad I booked that -300 flight from DFW-PHX on 11/27. Been interesting to watch the growing number of A321 at PHX. I did a few operations tours at PHX airport and one of the managers did say that US Air was going to be reconfiguring many of the gates to handle more A321 and A320 flights.


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User currently offlinemah584jr From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 511 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9815 times:

I've recently flown on a couple of the original America West 737-300s. They're aged a bit, but they still offer a smooth ride to this day. Here's a few videos I shot of them.

Takeoff from Phoenix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHyMsQV32B4

Landing in Spokane

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEBXN45Hdh4

Landing in Phoenix after a dust storm!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XmInI9ijtg


User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5193 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9780 times:

IAH saw a 321 on thu which is a rarerity, hopefully with the retirement of 733 We will get the 321 mixed in here and there.


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User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4078 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9726 times:

I was indeed surprised last time I flew through PHX. Back in the day I was used to seeing many 733 as well as A319-320. Now it's VERY A321-heavy. More capacity seems like it would be good news.

User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3877 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9685 times:
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Quoting wn676 (Reply 6):
Yes, they have 40 currently in service. I think one is due to leave this month though...

Wasn't Piedmont the very first airline to fly the 400? I believe they were, they started flying the variant already in 1988 when it was brand new. They oldest 400s must now be 23.

Also, US Air was one of the first two airlines to fly the 300 back in 1985, with Southwest. At that time the 733 was an all new airplane.



Ben Soriano
User currently offlineFRNT787 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1324 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9678 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 13):
I was indeed surprised last time I flew through PHX. Back in the day I was used to seeing many 733 as well as A319-320. Now it's VERY A321-heavy. More capacity seems like it would be good news.

Exactly right. I was on an A321 PHX-SNA flight leaving PHX at about 8:30, arriving 9:30pm into SNA and it was completely full. The interiors on the Airbus flights are great as well.



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User currently offline93Sierra From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 419 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 8785 times:

How does the reliability of the west 321s vs the older all blue east 321s? Last two rides into Lax on older east birds were extremely late due to mx delays.

User currently offlineMDTrunner From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8152 times:

Is AWA/US fleet really split east/west like this? I would imagine a fleet integration was done post merger.

User currently offlinezululima From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 332 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8052 times:

Quoting wn676 (Reply 5):
Do you know which three will be left? The last time I checked there were four going out of service on 11/29 (ships 302, 305, 332, and 334) and one going out on 12/16 (ship 303), but it looks like that schedule has been revised.

The last info I had was:

155: Mar 27
154: May 3
315: Aug 16
314: Sept 7
313: Oct 2
316: Oct 2
156: Oct 22
302: Nov 29
334: Nov 29
332: Nov 29
305: Nov 29
303: Dec 16

They seem to have kept to this so far. These might be the lease-return dates and not out-of service dates however.



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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12640 posts, RR: 46
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7972 times:
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That's a shame, I enjoyed seeing their 733s at Phoenix in March:

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User currently offlinelaca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4050 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7343 times:
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Quoting American 767 (Reply 14):
Wasn't Piedmont the very first airline to fly the 400? I believe they were, they started flying the variant already in 1988 when it was brand new. They oldest 400s must now be 23.

US did get them early on as did AS which is still flying quite a few 734s still.


User currently offlinewn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1057 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6908 times:

Quoting zululima (Reply 18):
They seem to have kept to this so far. These might be the lease-return dates and not out-of service dates however.

Looks like the same info I have, and those are the out-of-service dates, not the return dates.



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User currently offlineERJ From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 245 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 6716 times:

I haven't flown an east 734 in ages, but they were in pretty good shape relative to the 733's (east or west). I think I heard the 734's will be around through 2016 or later, but I'm not sure.

User currently offlineFlaps From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1286 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 6680 times:

Quoting ERJ (Reply 22):
I haven't flown an east 734 in ages, but they were in pretty good shape relative to the 733's (east or west). I think I heard the 734's will be around through 2016 or later, but I'm not sure.

I flew on a half dozen or so east 400's in June/July and they were all in very good shape.


User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1969 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 6606 times:

It will be sad to see the old HP classics go away. They've always looked sharp in their various paint schemes. My first flight on a 733 was with HP too. However I believe the frame I rode on has long left the fleet.

25 DeltAirlines : Might have to hop on the last one...could grab AA to DFW after work and then take US back...tight but doable. PHX-DFW does get a 757 starting the next
26 gigneil : HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Nope. The east pilots are far too greedy. NS
27 DeltAirlines : FAs are still on separate contracts as well.
28 DeltAirlines : I've taken about 20 of them in the past few months and no issues. Was on one PHX-LAS this afternoon and got into Vegas 15 minutes early.
29 bmibaby737 : Saw this depart PHX on 13 September 2011 without titles, did it ferry for storage or is it still active?
30 wn676 : That was a ferry to Macon, GA, and it is now out of service. Last revenue flight for 315 was AWE665 SNA-PHX on August 21st.
31 Nutsaboutplanes : Does anybody know if any of the older 321's from the East operation have been returned? I have heard a couple of times that the reason why a couple o
32 bmibaby737 : Ah, thanks for the info! Glad I got a photo of that one then.
33 Post contains images FutureUScapt : As sad as it may be to see them go from a spotter's perspective, I bet most passengers will be pleased to see them go. I, for one, know I won't miss
34 MSPNWA : I hear you there. My experience was quite a while ago, but it still stands out in my memory for mostly negative reasons! Nothing to write home about
35 Sevensixtyseven : Why are they keeping 303 until 12/16? If they're pushing the rest out the door, why not all? Maybe for swapping or similar? I can't imagine that keep
36 laca773 : What a/c will we mainly see replacing the 733s? A319s?
37 FRNT787 : In PHX we have seen alot more A321 service. That is also the bulk of what US has on order. It is obviously not a directly replacement, but we see it
38 catiii : 29 of them at AS...but I digress. Are there any differences in the East and West 733s? I presume the cockpits are the same, same cabin layouts, etc?
39 FutureUScapt : There are indeed two different layouts. The west 733s are configured in a 8F/126Y configuration while the east 733s are configured in a 12F/114Y conf
40 laca773 : I have flown on both many years ago. I know one thing that was very different about the US East 733s versus their West 733s were they all had drop do
41 ScottB : The lease may run until 12/16, and it may be useful to have that aircraft around for a few extra weeks just in case there are any issues with the del
42 Sevensixtyseven : Well that makes sense then. I'll have to catch a ride on one before it's too late, I guess.
43 727LOVER : Anyone know the regs of the remaining EAST 733s?
44 smoot4208 : It's just flow through. OMA will get 319 service. A320 routes are the ones being upgraded to A321s
45 boberito6589 : 516, 529, 530, 531, 532, 533, 574
46 727LOVER : OK, thanx.
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