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Extra Flights Between HKG And LHR?  
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9186 posts, RR: 15
Posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7838 times:

Hong Kong Airlines is starting first/business class only flights between HKG and LHR.

What about CX? Will there be a 5th daily flight? Will BA/VS resume their 3rd/2nd daily flights? NZ?

Possible for a HKG-LGW service? Oasis did it earlier.

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User currently offlineAPYu From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 839 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7822 times:

Hong kong airlines will operate into LGW


We'd like to welcome in particular our Executive Club members and those joining us from our Oneworld alliance partners.
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9186 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7777 times:

Any economy class on HA?

User currently offlinesantos From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7647 times:

Quoting United Airline (Reply 2):
Any economy class on HA


Do you mean HX

I'm sure BA is increasing HKG from next year.

[Edited 2011-09-17 01:58:39]

User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9186 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7619 times:

Yes HX

Will BA go triple daily?


User currently offlineAPYu From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 839 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7586 times:

BA will be three daily three days a week, in response to QF dropping their LHR-HKG flights next year


We'd like to welcome in particular our Executive Club members and those joining us from our Oneworld alliance partners.
User currently offlinezkojh From China, joined Sep 2004, 1710 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7253 times:

with QF going and the likley of NZ too off this route, this will free up more room for BA and CX to fight out.


CZ 787 to AKL can't wait.
User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9186 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 6963 times:

Will QF return one day? Doubt NZ will pull the plug.

VS will be there still. And they have no plans to pull HKG-SYD

Will BA go 21 flights a week again? I expect more BA B 747-400s in HKG


User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4024 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 6958 times:
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Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Hong Kong Airlines is starting first/business class only flights between HKG and LHR.

Good luck to them. If they want to make it work, they'll need to provide better service than CX and BA at lower prices than EK.



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User currently offlineLGWGate49 From Sudan, joined Nov 2009, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 6739 times:

Quoting blueflyer (Reply 8):
Good luck to them. If they want to make it work, they'll need to provide better service than CX and BA at lower prices than EK.

Totally agree, but is it true that HX don't offer a flat bed in business? That's never gonna work on LHR-HKG!



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User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9186 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6212 times:

Will CX be adding extra flights? Maybe to LGW for a change?

I am surprised that HX has no economy class on its HKG-LGW flights


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 3285 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6061 times:

BA is putting the B777-300ER on some of the HKG routes, and the new daytime service out of HKG is goign to be a B772 I believe, so a choice of B744, B773 and B772 everyday from BA.


http://my.flightmemory.com/shefgab Upcoming flights:LCY-ARN-AMS-LGW,STN-OTP-AMS-YUL,YQB-JFK-LAX-DUS-STN,LGW-DXB-BKK-HKG-
User currently offlineGSTBA From UK - England, joined Apr 2010, 465 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 5884 times:

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 11):
BA is putting the B777-300ER on some of the HKG routes, and the new daytime service out of HKG is goign to be a B772 I believe, so a choice of B744, B773 and B772 everyday from BA.

The timetable is as follows for S12


BA031 LHR 12:00 HKG 06:55* 777 3,5,7
BA025 LHR 18:40 HKG 13:15* 747 D
BA027 LHR 22:00 HKG 16:50* 77W D

BA032 HKG 09:00 LHR 15:00 777 1,4,6
BA026 HKG 23:15 LHR 04:55* 747 D
BA028 HKG 23:45 LHR 05:40* 77W D

BA025/BA026 service will be operated by a Hi-J 747 (14F/70J/30W/185Y)
BA027/BA028 service will be operated on a 77W (14F/56J/44W/183Y)
BA031/BA032 service will operate on a 4 Class 777 (12F/48J/32W/127Y)

Quoting United Airline (Reply 4):
Will BA go triple daily?

No return to triple daily flights for S12. If they do it won't happen to late OCT12


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2987 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5215 times:

Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 11):
so a choice of B744, B773 and B772 everyday from BA.

Only three days a week. On the other four days it will be a choice between the daily 744 or the daily 77W.


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9186 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4653 times:

Quoting GSTBA (Reply 12):
BA025/BA026 service will be operated by a Hi-J 747 (14F/70J/30W/185Y)

Why not use the high density one? HKG-LHR=packed


User currently offlineEltomzo From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2009, 67 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4620 times:

Quoting LGWGate49 (Reply 9):
Totally agree, but is it true that HX don't offer a flat bed in business? That's never gonna work on LHR-HKG!

Certainly true on their current A330s. Will be interesting to see what they roll out for this new service.



AA AC AF BA BD BE BR CA CI CX CZ EZY FR HU HX GA GS IT J2 KL LH LX MK MU NH OZ QR SA SQ TG TK TCX UN UX VN VS VY WY W6 Y
User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2987 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4609 times:

Quoting United Airline (Reply 14):
Why not use the high density one? HKG-LHR=packed

Well in reality, HKG-LHR = packed with high yielding J/F traffic, and plenty of Y capacity. They make more money filling a Hi-J 744 than a Lo-J one...


User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1496 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 4560 times:

Quoting United Airline (Reply 7):
Doubt NZ will pull the plug.

But note that NZ is losing NZ$ 1 million a week on its international routes. The CEO has said that NZ will review its overseas routes and an announcement is expected by the end of the year. But if NZ goes then it means Star will have no representation on this important route.

http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/gener...08/25/awx_08_25_2011_p0-363241.xml

Quoting LGWGate49 (Reply 9):
but is it true that HX don't offer a flat bed in business? That's never gonna work on LHR-HKG!

It could work as not everybody needs a flat bed or is prepared to pay for one. Sure, top executives will demand the highest of comfort so will opt for BA/CX/VS etc but lower-ranking business people (especially owners of small firms) will be not be so fussy. And note that a lower priced business would appeal to wealthy leisure passengers.

Quoting United Airline (Reply 10):
I am surprised that HX has no economy class on its HKG-LGW flights

It seems as though HX is trying out a new business model. HKG-based Oasis used to fly HKG-LGW in a 2-class layout but it failed.


User currently onlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3264 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4534 times:

Quoting United Airline (Reply 4):
Will BA go triple daily?

Technically they're returning to triple daily, it was only dropped relatively recently.


User currently offlineanstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5252 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (3 years 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4476 times:

Quoting LondonCity (Reply 17):
But if NZ goes then it means Star will have no representation on this important route.

Perhaps they will drop LHR-HKG in favour of a VS codeshare, allowing VS to go back to a double daily LHR-HKG service..... and who knows - we may even see VS in STAR one of these days!


User currently onlineslinky09 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2009, 843 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 4348 times:

Quoting Eltomzo (Reply 15):
Certainly true on their current A330s. Will be interesting to see what they roll out for this new service.

With BA J and F established, CX F rated very highly and a new J coming, and also with the OneWorld dominance on this route, any newcomer is going to have to have a very key USP to make it work. Let's see, but the odds are against them.


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2987 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4117 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 18):
Technically they're returning to triple daily, it was only dropped relatively recently.

No they're not!! They're moving to 17 weekly!


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9186 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4025 times:

Will we see VS A380 in Hong Kong at some point?

User currently offlineAA767LOVER From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2007, 609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4011 times:

Quoting LGWGate49 (Reply 9):

Good grief! They better not charge flat bed prices for NON flat bed service, but that's hard. They will charge up people's noses to get the $$$$ no matter what.



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User currently offlineCPDC10-30 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 4785 posts, RR: 23
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3835 times:

Quoting United Airline (Thread starter):
Possible for a HKG-LGW service? Oasis did it earlier.

And we all know what a colossal failure that airline was  

I am very partial to STN but LGW really seems to have become very agressive at attracting traffic since their sell-off by BAA. Of course it would be great to have more competition. But there's no point throwing more Y capacity at LON-HKG. Prices are still quite competitive.

How about a twice weekly MFM - LON route? That could be interesting if the correct aircraft (such as A330-200) was used from the existing HX fleet. Would that work from a regulatory point of view though?


25 skipness1E : Still a decrease on the five year capacity period then, more so given the dropping of the QF29 / 30 HKG-LHR-HLG sector. Odd given CX have been operat
26 smi0006 : Wasn't VS having some issues with SYD as there were too many HKG bound passenger taking up the seats for SYD passengers? I would love to see a VS upg
27 Post contains links LondonCity : Yes it was and to answer the problem VS introduced a second daily LHR-HKG service in 2009. But it seems the extra flight wasn't a commercial success
28 Post contains images qf002 : No contention to that point! Was just correcting what someone else said (that BA was going to 3 daily, which is not true )
29 SKAirbus : Well with OpenSkies and the common market there is nothing stopping another EU airline setting up shop at LHR and operate an LHR-HKG flight to keep St
30 skipness1E : Dear me no, there's a common misconception on here that airline's actually think in terms of what's best for the Alliance. They often don't, they thi
31 SKAirbus : I was merely looking at a scenario where NZ withdraws from the market leaving a capacity gap. Additionally BA's new service will only run three days
32 qf002 : Well NZ is said to not being doing brilliantly HKG-LHR so I don't think there's a major * market there -- why fill a spot that has been emptied becau
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