blueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3126 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5709 times:
Quoting United Airline (Thread starter): Hong Kong Airlines is starting first/business class only flights between HKG and LHR.
Good luck to them. If they want to make it work, they'll need to provide better service than CX and BA at lower prices than EK.
LGWGate49 From Sudan, joined Nov 2009, 117 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 5490 times:
Quoting blueflyer (Reply 8): Good luck to them. If they want to make it work, they'll need to provide better service than CX and BA at lower prices than EK.
Totally agree, but is it true that HX don't offer a flat bed in business? That's never gonna work on LHR-HKG!
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gabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 2512 posts, RR: 13 Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4812 times:
BA is putting the B777-300ER on some of the HKG routes, and the new daytime service out of HKG is goign to be a B772 I believe, so a choice of B744, B773 and B772 everyday from BA.
GSTBA From UK - England, joined Apr 2010, 400 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4635 times:
Quoting gabrielchew (Reply 11): BA is putting the B777-300ER on some of the HKG routes, and the new daytime service out of HKG is goign to be a B772 I believe, so a choice of B744, B773 and B772 everyday from BA.
BA025/BA026 service will be operated by a Hi-J 747 (14F/70J/30W/185Y)
BA027/BA028 service will be operated on a 77W (14F/56J/44W/183Y)
BA031/BA032 service will operate on a 4 Class 777 (12F/48J/32W/127Y)
But note that NZ is losing NZ$ 1 million a week on its international routes. The CEO has said that NZ will review its overseas routes and an announcement is expected by the end of the year. But if NZ goes then it means Star will have no representation on this important route.
Quoting LGWGate49 (Reply 9): but is it true that HX don't offer a flat bed in business? That's never gonna work on LHR-HKG!
It could work as not everybody needs a flat bed or is prepared to pay for one. Sure, top executives will demand the highest of comfort so will opt for BA/CX/VS etc but lower-ranking business people (especially owners of small firms) will be not be so fussy. And note that a lower priced business would appeal to wealthy leisure passengers.
Quoting United Airline (Reply 10): I am surprised that HX has no economy class on its HKG-LGW flights
It seems as though HX is trying out a new business model. HKG-based Oasis used to fly HKG-LGW in a 2-class layout but it failed.
anstar From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 4848 posts, RR: 6 Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3227 times:
Quoting LondonCity (Reply 17): But if NZ goes then it means Star will have no representation on this important route.
Perhaps they will drop LHR-HKG in favour of a VS codeshare, allowing VS to go back to a double daily LHR-HKG service..... and who knows - we may even see VS in STAR one of these days!
slinky09 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2009, 593 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3099 times:
Quoting Eltomzo (Reply 15): Certainly true on their current A330s. Will be interesting to see what they roll out for this new service.
With BA J and F established, CX F rated very highly and a new J coming, and also with the OneWorld dominance on this route, any newcomer is going to have to have a very key USP to make it work. Let's see, but the odds are against them.
Good grief! They better not charge flat bed prices for NON flat bed service, but that's hard. They will charge up people's noses to get the $$$$ no matter what.
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And we all know what a colossal failure that airline was
I am very partial to STN but LGW really seems to have become very agressive at attracting traffic since their sell-off by BAA. Of course it would be great to have more competition. But there's no point throwing more Y capacity at LON-HKG. Prices are still quite competitive.
How about a twice weekly MFM - LON route? That could be interesting if the correct aircraft (such as A330-200) was used from the existing HX fleet. Would that work from a regulatory point of view though?
25 skipness1E: Still a decrease on the five year capacity period then, more so given the dropping of the QF29 / 30 HKG-LHR-HLG sector. Odd given CX have been operat
26 smi0006: Wasn't VS having some issues with SYD as there were too many HKG bound passenger taking up the seats for SYD passengers? I would love to see a VS upg
27 LondonCity: Yes it was and to answer the problem VS introduced a second daily LHR-HKG service in 2009. But it seems the extra flight wasn't a commercial success
28 qf002: No contention to that point! Was just correcting what someone else said (that BA was going to 3 daily, which is not true )
29 SKAirbus: Well with OpenSkies and the common market there is nothing stopping another EU airline setting up shop at LHR and operate an LHR-HKG flight to keep St
30 skipness1E: Dear me no, there's a common misconception on here that airline's actually think in terms of what's best for the Alliance. They often don't, they thi
31 SKAirbus: I was merely looking at a scenario where NZ withdraws from the market leaving a capacity gap. Additionally BA's new service will only run three days
32 qf002: Well NZ is said to not being doing brilliantly HKG-LHR so I don't think there's a major * market there -- why fill a spot that has been emptied becau
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