AirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 852 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2245 times:
Even DL tried flights from ATL to FDF (Martinique) and Guadeloupe (PTP) with 738 once weekly each, but the operations remained one season only: no demand...
Only AC manages to operate on a regular basis to both FDF and PTP from YUL with A319.
Otherwise, AF operates the famous daily CAY-FDF-PTP-PAP-MIA wih A320.
BNAOWB From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 350 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2223 times:
So, is it possible that Martinique receives more arriving passengers from Europe each year than from all of the Americas combined? If so, could there be any other airports in the Americas (aside from possibly PTP) with this distinction?
CuriousFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 655 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2192 times:
Quoting AirGabon (Reply 4): AF operates the famous daily CAY-FDF-PTP-PAP-MIA wih A320
And I think this is very expensive, right?
I see NYC-PTP starting at $1510 with AC and $4785 (Via CDG !! There must be a cheaper routing with DL) with AF, MIA-PTP with AF $668, only 4 days a week!
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21498 posts, RR: 24 Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1957 times:
Quoting AirGabon (Reply 4): Otherwise, AF operates the famous daily CAY-FDF-PTP-PAP-MIA wih A320.
Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 5): So, is it possible that Martinique receives more arriving passengers from Europe each year than from all of the Americas combined? If so, could there be any other airports in the Americas (aside from possibly PTP) with this distinction?
luckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1587 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1927 times:
Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 5): So, is it possible that Martinique receives more arriving passengers from Europe each year than from all of the Americas combined? If so, could there be any other airports in the Americas (aside from possibly PTP) with this distinction?
The demand is so thin to many islands in the Caribbean that American cannot even fill the ATR they fly routinely. Since that aircraft isn't capable of making it to Miami, they use SJU.
Remember Martinique is an Overseas Region of France, and as such a domestic flight for most EU citizens. This makes it much cheaper for them. Given that, and the fact that it is French-speaking while there are many more English-speaking islands nearby, Martinique (and Guadeloupe) cater mostly to French-speaking groups. Add the Euro exchange rate compared to the Eastern Caribbean Dollar and you have a very unattractive picture for a lot of people. Being associated with France and having to operate under many French regulations also drives up costs for foreigners in comparison to neighboring islands.
I have never seen an advertisement for either of the two "French Islands" in the states, and had never even heard of them until I moved to the island in between them! Compare that to Jamaica, the Caymans, Barbados, etc.
and a really "convenient" tranfert to ORY then. These islands are so much revolving around France and France only that they are served from Orly, which sees almost no connections to Europe and the rest of the world. There are talks for moving them but... doesn't happen
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21498 posts, RR: 24 Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1094 times:
Quoting icna05e (Reply 10): Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 6):
Via CDG
and a really "convenient" tranfert to ORY then. These islands are so much revolving around France and France only that they are served from Orly, which sees almost no connections to Europe and the rest of the world. There are talks for moving them but... doesn't happen
Similar situation from LON. Most current and former British territories in the Caribbean are served from LGW, not LHR.