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User currently offlinewashingtonian From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 1 month 5 days ago) and read 3203 times:

Why does AA only serve Martinique from SJU? I'm surprised not to see service to MIA...

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User currently offlineaa 777 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 808 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2976 times:
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I've often wondered the same. Anyone know?


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User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33053 posts, RR: 71
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2960 times:

Because the market from the mainland is non-existent. Even Air France's flights from MIA aren't non-stop and operate via Haiti.


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User currently offlineaa 777 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 808 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2950 times:
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Thanks Mark for the insight. Always appreciated.


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User currently offlineAirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 886 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2491 times:

Even DL tried flights from ATL to FDF (Martinique) and Guadeloupe (PTP) with 738 once weekly each, but the operations remained one season only: no demand...

Only AC manages to operate on a regular basis to both FDF and PTP from YUL with A319.

Otherwise, AF operates the famous daily CAY-FDF-PTP-PAP-MIA wih A320.


User currently offlineBNAOWB From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 400 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2469 times:

So, is it possible that Martinique receives more arriving passengers from Europe each year than from all of the Americas combined? If so, could there be any other airports in the Americas (aside from possibly PTP) with this distinction?

User currently offlineCuriousFlyer From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 700 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2438 times:

Quoting AirGabon (Reply 4):
AF operates the famous daily CAY-FDF-PTP-PAP-MIA wih A320

And I think this is very expensive, right?

I see NYC-PTP starting at $1510 with AC and $4785 (Via CDG !! There must be a cheaper routing with DL) with AF, MIA-PTP with AF $668, only 4 days a week!


User currently offlineRobertS975 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 947 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2302 times:
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In the mid to late 70's, I flew from JFK to FDF on an AA B707. The flight served both FDF and PTP, as I recall.

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25653 posts, RR: 22
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2203 times:

Quoting AirGabon (Reply 4):
Otherwise, AF operates the famous daily CAY-FDF-PTP-PAP-MIA wih A320.
Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 5):
So, is it possible that Martinique receives more arriving passengers from Europe each year than from all of the Americas combined? If so, could there be any other airports in the Americas (aside from possibly PTP) with this distinction?

Probably also CAY.


User currently offlineluckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 2188 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2173 times:

Quoting BNAOWB (Reply 5):
So, is it possible that Martinique receives more arriving passengers from Europe each year than from all of the Americas combined? If so, could there be any other airports in the Americas (aside from possibly PTP) with this distinction?

The demand is so thin to many islands in the Caribbean that American cannot even fill the ATR they fly routinely. Since that aircraft isn't capable of making it to Miami, they use SJU.
Remember Martinique is an Overseas Region of France, and as such a domestic flight for most EU citizens. This makes it much cheaper for them. Given that, and the fact that it is French-speaking while there are many more English-speaking islands nearby, Martinique (and Guadeloupe) cater mostly to French-speaking groups. Add the Euro exchange rate compared to the Eastern Caribbean Dollar and you have a very unattractive picture for a lot of people. Being associated with France and having to operate under many French regulations also drives up costs for foreigners in comparison to neighboring islands.
I have never seen an advertisement for either of the two "French Islands" in the states, and had never even heard of them until I moved to the island in between them! Compare that to Jamaica, the Caymans, Barbados, etc.

[Edited 2011-09-22 14:30:15]

User currently offlineicna05e From France, joined Feb 2006, 298 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1560 times:

Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 6):
Via CDG

and a really "convenient" tranfert to ORY then. These islands are so much revolving around France and France only that they are served from Orly, which sees almost no connections to Europe and the rest of the world. There are talks for moving them but... doesn't happen


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25653 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1340 times:

Quoting icna05e (Reply 10):
Quoting CuriousFlyer (Reply 6):
Via CDG

and a really "convenient" tranfert to ORY then. These islands are so much revolving around France and France only that they are served from Orly, which sees almost no connections to Europe and the rest of the world. There are talks for moving them but... doesn't happen

Similar situation from LON. Most current and former British territories in the Caribbean are served from LGW, not LHR.


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