LGWGate49 From Sudan, joined Nov 2009, 117 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 8 months 5 days ago) and read 9643 times:
So they've bought a beautiful old 747, fitted her with engines, and now given her a smart new paint job. They're even talking about a 'grand inaugural event' for her maiden flight from JFK-LED.
Is it just possible that our favourite start-up might get off the ground this time?
AV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1266 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 9577 times:
Who knows? But why a 742? Why not a 763ER or even a used 744 or 772. I doubt this will last more than 6 months but I do Love the 747's but really how do they think they can last with 1 fuel thirsty and "old" plane. Goodluck but I don't give them a long lifespan.
KingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1579 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 9460 times:
Cool to see old 6623 flying again, complete with Northwest interior.
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15734 posts, RR: 48 Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 9316 times:
Wow. We're really doing this? All these years of preparation for weeks of flying, if that.
Quoting KingAir200 (Reply 2): Cool to see old 6623 flying again, complete with Northwest interior.
For all those people yammering about the "golden age" of flying, this is what it looked like. No flat beds here; no ptvs.
TCASAlert From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 8936 times:
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 3): For all those people yammering about the "golden age" of flying, this is what it looked like. No flat beds here; no ptvs.
na From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 9614 posts, RR: 10 Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8853 times:
I wonder what their business model is. Must be a niche no one found yet. Low-cost of cause, otherwise this will be a white elephant. Baltia sounds like they are flying to the Baltic. Does that fill an old 742 regularly?
A start up with a 742 ten years ago was called unusual, but how shall I call it in 2011? Nice to see nevertheless. Smart livery. Makes me wonder why they didnt choose a 20 year-old 744 at least. This plane here has flown continuously for 30 years and has clocked about 104.000 hours. Did NWA do a D-check on it rather shortly, only a few years before retiring it two years ago, or what?
timf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 954 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8200 times:
Quoting KingAir200 (Reply 2): Cool to see old 6623 flying again, complete with Northwest interior.
The funny thing is if you read Baltia's website you would think they were refurbishing the interior with modern amenities. I guess it's not surprising that it is exactly the same because an airline acquiring 747-200s can't exactly be swimming in cash.
jetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2066 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 8123 times:
On November 15, 2009 BLTA paid the remaining balance on one Boeing 747-200 Aircraft, without engines, and now owns the Jetliner free and clear. The purchase price of the Aircraft was $475,000. Logistic Air accepted 2,000,000 common shares as a small part of the aircraft purchase. The Aircraft was purchased without engines. In conjunction with the purchase, Logistic Air is Leasing to the Company engines on a "Power by the Hour" basis.
Where's the passion gone out of the airline industry? The smell of jetfuel and the romance of taking a flight....
CX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4385 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 7566 times:
It could be that all they can afford is a 747-200 at this point in time. I doubt this airline will be in business more than a few weeks but will it really be that bad to see a freshly painted 747 "Classic" on the tarmac at JFK? Here is to a successful first flight and many more down the line.
"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
beeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1693 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6179 times:
Quoting CX747 (Reply 12): It could be that all they can afford is a 747-200 at this point in time. I doubt this airline will be in business more than a few weeks but will it really be that bad to see a freshly painted 747 "Classic" on the tarmac at JFK? Here is to a successful first flight and many more down the line.
Well I hope they make it as well as anyone else who that tries in this dog eat dog world. I wish them well and BLUE SKIES AHEAD.
Quoting na (Reply 5): Did NWA do a D-check on it rather shortly, only a few years before retiring it two years ago, or what?
PillowTester From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 243 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5846 times:
For those of you that didn't click the first link, a description of Baltia's business intentions are located here:
CX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4385 posts, RR: 5 Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5156 times:
One thing for sure, the 747-200 is a great looking airplane. To have it still be a regular at the international terminals would be a god send. 777s & A330s all look the same!
"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
b6a322 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 287 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4843 times:
If Airberlin can fly between JFK and two destinations (albeit one seasonally) in Germany with their old 330's from LT that have the same kind of interior, I see no reason Baltia Can't.
Its just that this one is like an SUV. And needs 38318 times more kero!
And did anyone notice how in this picture: http://imageshack.us/f/24/baltia089.jpg/ it looks like a good 50% of the instruments from the panel are missing? No way that this plane actually got off the ground in my opinion.
[Edited 2011-09-24 15:02:24]
The content I post is solely my own opinion. It is not an official statement by/of/for nor representative of any company
Bralo20 From Belgium, joined exactly 5 years ago today! , 585 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4708 times:
Quoting b6a322 (Reply 19): And did anyone notice how in this picture: http://imageshack.us/f/24/baltia089.jpg/ it looks like a good 50% of the instruments from the panel are missing? No way that this plane actually got off the ground in my opinion.
Maybe you see something I don't see but I can't see any 50% (or even less) of instruments missing??
What I see is an upgraded flightdeck with regular gauges being replaced by monitors...
PillowTester From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 243 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4708 times:
Quoting b6a322 (Reply 19): And did anyone notice how in this picture: http://imageshack.us/f/24/baltia089.jpg/ it looks like a good 50% of the instruments from the panel are missing? No way that this plane actually got off the ground in my opinion.
One of the links is a video of the plane taking off in Baltia's new livery.
trigged From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 497 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4540 times:
Quoting b6a322 (Reply 19): And did anyone notice how in this picture: http://imageshack.us/f/24/baltia089.jpg/ it looks like a good 50% of the instruments from the panel are missing? No way that this plane actually got off the ground in my opinion.
I don't see a single instrument missing. I see some flat panel displays with them dark, but it has every instrument installed.
PlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11141 posts, RR: 63 Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3942 times:
Good luck to these guys, I'll be on one of their flights if they go ahead - I still need a 747-200 in my log book so say I've done that type.
Quoting 777way (Reply 23): Why a US airline with East Europe style branding?
Perhaps because they want to attract an Eastern European audience.
Dan
25 AirlineReporter: This is beyond awesome. Yes, it might not be the best choice in aircraft choice, but for those of us who love this stuff -- seeing a Boeing 747-200 fl
26 poLOT: Does a rooster have any specific significance in Eastern Europe? It seems like an odd logo for an airline, considering they can't fly for all that lon
27 CX Flyboy: I'm not sure I would want a huge cock as a company logo!
28 PlymSpotter: Why not, Ryanair have one as their CEO
30 GymClassHero: :') Beautiful. Some classics never die!!
31 tsnamm: Well its taken them at least 15 years to get to this point...maybe 4-5 more before they actually fly with passengers...I admire their chutzpa, but I c
32 flyguy89: I think they might have a chance. The 742 is definitely not the ideal a/c with fuel at the price it's at right now, but what the 742 lacks in fuel ef
33 B727FA: Hellenic Imperial brings their 742 into JFK. Looks like things are going "old school!"
34 tsnamm: I I just don't think there's nearly enough demand US to LED for a plane that size, let alone with the fuel inefficiencies...can't imagine operating mo
35 ScottB: "We lose money on every passenger, but we make it up in volume!" On a more serious note, LED isn't the kind of market where cheap tickets are going t
37 WestJet747: But back to the topic at hand..... I think what they are trying to achieve is definitely in the right ballpark...albeit slightly misguided. As it sta
38 Bennett123: So long as it is airworthy, why not try it. Where else will you get to fly a B747-200 now. Is it still on the N register.
39 n7371f: Agreed. Northwest remodeled the interiors on its -200B's in the late 90's into early 2000...new overhead bins, sidewalls and bulkheads among other th
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