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Baltia Paint Their 747 (pics And Video)  
User currently offlineLGWGate49 From Sudan, joined Nov 2009, 138 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 1 month 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 10941 times:

So they've bought a beautiful old 747, fitted her with engines, and now given her a smart new paint job. They're even talking about a 'grand inaugural event' for her maiden flight from JFK-LED.

Is it just possible that our favourite start-up might get off the ground this time?

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=918
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVeOLKKBgIg
http://imageshack.us/g/692/baltia348i.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/g/840/dsc00671io.jpg/
http://imageshack.us/g/5/dsc00812uoa.jpg/


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User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1354 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 10875 times:

Who knows? But why a 742? Why not a 763ER or even a used 744 or 772. I doubt this will last more than 6 months but I do Love the 747's but really how do they think they can last with 1 fuel thirsty and "old" plane. Goodluck but I don't give them a long lifespan.

[Edited 2011-09-23 18:27:30]


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User currently offlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1622 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10758 times:

Cool to see old 6623 flying again, complete with Northwest interior.


Hey Swifty
User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17663 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 10614 times:

Wow. We're really doing this? All these years of preparation for weeks of flying, if that.

Quoting KingAir200 (Reply 2):
Cool to see old 6623 flying again, complete with Northwest interior.

For all those people yammering about the "golden age" of flying, this is what it looked like. No flat beds here; no ptvs.



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User currently offlineTCASAlert From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10234 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 3):
For all those people yammering about the "golden age" of flying, this is what it looked like. No flat beds here; no ptvs.

Exactly how it should be.


User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10765 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 10151 times:

I wonder what their business model is. Must be a niche no one found yet. Low-cost of cause, otherwise this will be a white elephant. Baltia sounds like they are flying to the Baltic. Does that fill an old 742 regularly?

A start up with a 742 ten years ago was called unusual, but how shall I call it in 2011? Nice to see nevertheless. Smart livery. Makes me wonder why they didnt choose a 20 year-old 744 at least. This plane here has flown continuously for 30 years and has clocked about 104.000 hours. Did NWA do a D-check on it rather shortly, only a few years before retiring it two years ago, or what?

Good luck to them.


User currently onlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3926 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 1 day ago) and read 9951 times:

Good luck to them... its certainly nice to see something more unusual in the skies!

User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3566 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 1 day ago) and read 9914 times:

Why is it going to Oscoda, MI?


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User currently offlineSpacepope From Vatican City, joined Dec 1999, 2952 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 23 hours ago) and read 9871 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 7):

Why is it going to Oscoda, MI?

Maintenance from Kalitta?



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User currently onlineteme82 From Finland, joined Mar 2007, 1571 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 22 hours ago) and read 9636 times:
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Compared to used 744 how much more that older 742 will consume fuel per hour?


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User currently offlinetimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 970 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 9498 times:
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Quoting KingAir200 (Reply 2):
Cool to see old 6623 flying again, complete with Northwest interior.

The funny thing is if you read Baltia's website you would think they were refurbishing the interior with modern amenities. I guess it's not surprising that it is exactly the same because an airline acquiring 747-200s can't exactly be swimming in cash.


User currently offlinejetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 21 hours ago) and read 9421 times:

On November 15, 2009 BLTA paid the remaining balance on one Boeing 747-200 Aircraft, without engines, and now owns the Jetliner free and clear. The purchase price of the Aircraft was $475,000. Logistic Air accepted 2,000,000 common shares as a small part of the aircraft purchase. The Aircraft was purchased without engines. In conjunction with the purchase, Logistic Air is Leasing to the Company engines on a "Power by the Hour" basis.


Where's the passion gone out of the airline industry? The smell of jetfuel and the romance of taking a flight....
User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 18 hours ago) and read 8864 times:

It could be that all they can afford is a 747-200 at this point in time. I doubt this airline will be in business more than a few weeks but will it really be that bad to see a freshly painted 747 "Classic" on the tarmac at JFK? Here is to a successful first flight and many more down the line.


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User currently offlinezainmax From Pakistan, joined Jul 2009, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 16 hours ago) and read 7542 times:

What about their other B742 B705NL ?
Ex PK bird ?
She is still in KUL for maintenance ?



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User currently offlinebeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1767 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 16 hours ago) and read 7477 times:

Quoting CX747 (Reply 12):
It could be that all they can afford is a 747-200 at this point in time. I doubt this airline will be in business more than a few weeks but will it really be that bad to see a freshly painted 747 "Classic" on the tarmac at JFK? Here is to a successful first flight and many more down the line.

Well I hope they make it as well as anyone else who that tries in this dog eat dog world. I wish them well and BLUE SKIES AHEAD.

Quoting na (Reply 5):
Did NWA do a D-check on it rather shortly, only a few years before retiring it two years ago, or what?

The first one N705BL was owned by PIA


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Quoting AV8AJET (Reply 1):
Who knows? But why a 742? Why not a 763ER or even a used 744 or 772

Well If you can purchase one out right for under $500,000 let me know.

Quoting AV8AJET (Reply 1):
I do Love the 747's but really how do they think they can last with 1 fuel thirsty and "old" plane.

Can,t they re-engine it with the newer engines that are used on the 744's today. Look at Air Force 1 it is a 742 but with newer engines.


User currently offlineboacvc10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 615 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 16 hours ago) and read 7428 times:

Quoting CX747 (Reply 12):
I doubt this airline will be in business more than a few weeks

What are the reasons you have your doubts?



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User currently offlinePillowTester From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 15 hours ago) and read 7144 times:

For those of you that didn't click the first link, a description of Baltia's business intentions are located here:

http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=918#

They intend to focus primarily on US -> former Eastern Bloc market.



...said Dan jubilantly.
User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 14 hours ago) and read 6454 times:

One thing for sure, the 747-200 is a great looking airplane. To have it still be a regular at the international terminals would be a god send. 777s & A330s all look the same!


"History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or timid." D. Eisenhower
User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4659 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 14 hours ago) and read 6162 times:

Yes, a beautiful Classic Aircraft,



Good luck to them.



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User currently offlineb6a322 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 14 hours ago) and read 6141 times:

If Airberlin can fly between JFK and two destinations (albeit one seasonally) in Germany with their old 330's from LT that have the same kind of interior, I see no reason Baltia Can't.

Its just that this one is like an SUV. And needs 38318 times more kero!

And did anyone notice how in this picture: http://imageshack.us/f/24/baltia089.jpg/ it looks like a good 50% of the instruments from the panel are missing? No way that this plane actually got off the ground in my opinion.

[Edited 2011-09-24 15:02:24]


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User currently offlineBralo20 From Belgium, joined May 2008, 626 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 13 hours ago) and read 6006 times:

Quoting b6a322 (Reply 19):
And did anyone notice how in this picture: http://imageshack.us/f/24/baltia089.jpg/ it looks like a good 50% of the instruments from the panel are missing? No way that this plane actually got off the ground in my opinion.

Maybe you see something I don't see but I can't see any 50% (or even less) of instruments missing??

What I see is an upgraded flightdeck with regular gauges being replaced by monitors...

Here are similar ones:

Sistership from NWA: http://www.airliners.net/photo/North...d=2177e09c6a50a1b492becc5c8e384aaf

One from Atlas Air: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Atlas...d=2177e09c6a50a1b492becc5c8e384aaf


User currently offlinePillowTester From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 month 13 hours ago) and read 6006 times:

Quoting b6a322 (Reply 19):
And did anyone notice how in this picture: http://imageshack.us/f/24/baltia089.jpg/ it looks like a good 50% of the instruments from the panel are missing? No way that this plane actually got off the ground in my opinion.

One of the links is a video of the plane taking off in Baltia's new livery.



...said Dan jubilantly.
User currently offlinetrigged From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 month 13 hours ago) and read 5838 times:

Quoting b6a322 (Reply 19):
And did anyone notice how in this picture: http://imageshack.us/f/24/baltia089.jpg/ it looks like a good 50% of the instruments from the panel are missing? No way that this plane actually got off the ground in my opinion.

I don't see a single instrument missing. I see some flat panel displays with them dark, but it has every instrument installed.


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5855 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 5370 times:

Why a US airline with East Europe style branding? even Tower Air was better than this and looked American.

User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11668 posts, RR: 60
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 5240 times:

Good luck to these guys, I'll be on one of their flights if they go ahead - I still need a 747-200 in my log book so say I've done that type. 
Quoting 777way (Reply 23):
Why a US airline with East Europe style branding?

Perhaps because they want to attract an Eastern European audience.


Dan  



...love is just a camouflage for what resembles rage again...
25 AirlineReporter : This is beyond awesome. Yes, it might not be the best choice in aircraft choice, but for those of us who love this stuff -- seeing a Boeing 747-200 fl
26 poLOT : Does a rooster have any specific significance in Eastern Europe? It seems like an odd logo for an airline, considering they can't fly for all that lon
27 CX Flyboy : I'm not sure I would want a huge cock as a company logo!
28 Post contains images PlymSpotter : Why not, Ryanair have one as their CEO
29 Post contains images tymnbalewne : Speak for yourself!
30 GymClassHero : :') Beautiful. Some classics never die!!
31 tsnamm : Well its taken them at least 15 years to get to this point...maybe 4-5 more before they actually fly with passengers...I admire their chutzpa, but I c
32 flyguy89 : I think they might have a chance. The 742 is definitely not the ideal a/c with fuel at the price it's at right now, but what the 742 lacks in fuel ef
33 B727FA : Hellenic Imperial brings their 742 into JFK. Looks like things are going "old school!"
34 tsnamm : I I just don't think there's nearly enough demand US to LED for a plane that size, let alone with the fuel inefficiencies...can't imagine operating mo
35 ScottB : "We lose money on every passenger, but we make it up in volume!" On a more serious note, LED isn't the kind of market where cheap tickets are going t
36 rbgso : My vote for post of the day!
37 Post contains images WestJet747 : But back to the topic at hand..... I think what they are trying to achieve is definitely in the right ballpark...albeit slightly misguided. As it sta
38 Bennett123 : So long as it is airworthy, why not try it. Where else will you get to fly a B747-200 now. Is it still on the N register.
39 n7371f : Agreed. Northwest remodeled the interiors on its -200B's in the late 90's into early 2000...new overhead bins, sidewalls and bulkheads among other th
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