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IL-114 Still Being Produced?  
User currently offlinespantax From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 323 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 7121 times:

Some days ago I had the privilege of flying one. Uzbekistan Airways, Tashkent-Urgench. Very nice flight, smooth, low cabin noise, good windows, good seats and lot of space for your legs and luggage. Thus, the obvious question. Why no more than 14 or so built? (maybe I'm wrong here, but this is the number I've found so far). Maybe, as always, entering the Western markets is tricky for Russian products, but at least in Russia and the former USSR republics it should work. Does anybody knows how an IL-114 compares, price wise, with ATR-72 and Q400? (All the threads I've found on this forum about IL-114 are quite old, so this is a good opportunity to refresh the subject, I hope). Regards,


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User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1603 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 7065 times:

This cute aircraft (as much as AN-140) hardly has prospects.
Two main reasons:
- it's built 20 years ago - and became obsolete;
- Ilyushin is not able to provide effective post-production service.

UAC Russia is considering an option of building a clean sheet design turboprop, probably in cooperation with ATR or BBD.
As the need in turboprops is immediate (due to AN-24/26 going out of service) we can expect import of ATR (rumored not good enough for Russian climate) or Q400.
BBD is very active here these days here.


User currently offlineSIBILLE From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 483 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6845 times:

Uzbekistan Airways received its 6th Il-114-100 last month, on August 30th (source : aviaport.ru).
So, yes, the aircraft is still in production. Some of the latest ones are delivered to military customers.


User currently offlineGunsontheroof From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3508 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6641 times:

Quoting spantax (Thread starter):
Some days ago I had the privilege of flying one. Uzbekistan Airways, Tashkent-Urgench.

Sweet! Can we look forward to a trip report???

Insofar as I know, the IL-114 is still being produced under license by Tashkent Aviation Production Corporation (TAPO) and continues to struggle as an export product. A real shame from an enthusiast's perspective--it's a sharp looking aircraft! I'm under the impression that the IL-114 is exclusively manufactured in Uzbekistan--is this the case?



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User currently offlineTK1244 From Netherlands, joined May 2007, 330 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5921 times:

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 3):
I'm under the impression that the IL-114 is exclusively manufactured in Uzbekistan--is this the case?

Only the first five are built in Moscow by MMF 'Strela'. Currently, this model is exclusively built in Tashkent.

Forgot to add the source:
http://russianplanes.net/EN/REGIST2/Ilushin/Il-114

[Edited 2011-09-24 16:43:05]


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User currently offlinevanguard737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 684 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 5268 times:

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 1):

This cute aircraft (as much as AN-140) hardly has prospects.
Two main reasons:
- it's built 20 years ago - and became obsolete;
- Ilyushin is not able to provide effective post-production service.

  

Comparing this aircraft to a Q400 or ATR is wrong. It is more in line with a BAe ATP. Then again, the ATP isn't even a fair comparison, as it was a successful aircraft based off a proven design (748) from a company with the ability to support its products in the field. The 114 is an odd aircraft. Few built, and once delivered, very little support services available from the manufacturer. Plus, it's entry into service was still far to early to attract traditional Western customers.

Attractive aircraft, nonetheless.



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User currently offlineTy134A From Austria, joined Apr 2008, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4619 times:

Now that is cool, I hat 3 flights on it last week. Yes, it's still being produced and there are some frames on order. Currently only produced in UZB, but could be by UAC as well.

It is smooth and calm to ride it in the back, but up front all hell breaks loose after full throttle. In Russia the plane is considered good but not needed. An-24 srs are availiable on a low budget basis, this allows hardly any new manufacturing. And if you have the Kopeyki, you go for an import of a shabby old ATr.

Kind regards, and I can recommend flying on Russian Birds as long as they are around, it's just a wonderful experience.



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User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1603 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4107 times:

I believe IL-114 and AN-140 can be compared with ATR and DASH/BBD and BAE ATP.
All of them are pretty old frames.
In comparing aircraft one can not refer to number built or post delivery services.
The history of each aircraft is unique.
SAAB-2000 and Dornier-328 were great turboprops. But programs are closed.
AN-140 and IL-114 are in production (but as I said "hardly have prospects").
Q400 with 40 orders - we don't know....
ATR is a great product - but it is a 30 year old design.

I think UAC position of clean sheet design for a regional turboprop has a point.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15778 posts, RR: 27
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4080 times:

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 1):
we can expect import of ATR (rumored not good enough for Russian climate)

The American Eagle crash in Indiana gave the ATR a black eye and scared a lot of people, Eagle included, but I think those concerns are way overblown. For one thing, First Air has been operating them in Canada with no problems.



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User currently offlinepylon101 From Russia, joined Feb 2008, 1603 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3484 times:

You are right. Finnair and Fiinncom have them. I didn't hear complaints.
Still, there were opinions from UTAir- which serves Nothern routes - that ATR may be troublesome.
I love ATR. But I made flights from Tenerife to Grand Canaria and some in Florida and Georgia.
So I am not in a position to judge.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11665 posts, RR: 60
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3273 times:

It may come down to ruggedness. When you look at the specs of an An-24 it's an incredible aircraft, and the ATR doesn't match it in all areas. What an An-24 can brush off, an ATR may take a hammering from which leads to maintenance problems.


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User currently offlineOlafW From Germany, joined Jul 2009, 103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3168 times:

Quoting pylon101 (Reply 7):
I believe IL-114 and AN-140 can be compared with ATR and DASH/BBD and BAE ATP.

Looking at both the IL-114 and the BAe ATP, i cannot help but find them very similar. According to wikipedia data, the dimensions are the same by only half a meter, takeoff weight differs by just 500 kg and also max speed and range are very compatible.
Has there been any kind of technology transfer from BAe to Ilyushin or is it pure coincidence?


User currently offlinespantax From Belgium, joined Nov 2004, 323 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2537 times:

Quoting Gunsontheroof (Reply 3):
Sweet! Can we look forward to a trip report???

Well, not exactly a trip report, just a couple of snapshots: 1) interior very roomy; 2) onboard service just a glass of water; 3) slow flight: 1h50' for 723 km; 4) strictly forbidden to take photos in Uzbekistan airports and guards-militar personnel to take care of this; 5) Tashkent (TAS) a wonderful place to spot: AN-12, IL-76, IL-86, AN-26... and the colourful fleet of Uzbekistan Airways: A310, A320, B757, B767, Avro-85, TU-154.

Quoting vanguard737 (Reply 5):
The 114 is an odd aircraft. Few built, and once delivered, very little support services

Yes indeed. I was thinking that, sadly, it will add to the list of dead-born AC together with L-1011, Convair 880-990, Concorde, TU-144, Dassault Mercure, (A380... )



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User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2013 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 2519 times:

The end of the Soviet era produced several aircraft that emerged just as the USSR collapsed, the control economy stopped, collapsing orders, with eventually western manufacturers started moved in
The Tu204, IL96 and IL 114 have all limped along with tiny production, the Tu 334 never even made it into production...



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User currently onlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4340 posts, RR: 35
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2425 times:

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 13):
The Tu204, IL96 and IL 114 have all limped along with tiny production

We can add the An-148 to that... Flew it last month, a nice 2 engined BAe-146 style aircraft but I think total production will be 40 at the most.



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