fpetrutiu From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 910 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 10496 times:
Quoting 474218 (Reply 4): Monday September 26, 2011 is the delivery date of ANA's (the launch customer) first 787?
The aircraft was formally delivered to ANA yesterday, Sunday, Sept 25th, when all the paperwork and money exchanged hands. The aircraft as of then is owned by ANA not Boeing. On Monday is only the party, and on Tuesday ANA will fly her home.
Plus every other JQ route since they're sending their A332s back to QF as the 788s arrive -- they will eventually be 787 only for International. They will also gain 5-6 frames overall so we should see some new routes for them out of SIN (FCO? ATH? ADL?)
With who? NH? If so, there's been very little action on that front. DIA folks reached out to ANA a while back but as BoeingGuy said, it's been reported here that ANA has had repeated talks with the people who run SJC. One meeting very recently. I wouldn't make that bet on DEN.
With UA? Maybe, but probably not next year. It's hard for me to see DEN getting a ton of new UA international service anyway with 5 other better served international gateways to funnel traffic to.
MCOGVADCA From China, joined Oct 2006, 457 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8648 times:
Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 17): I am still thinking the 787 will eventually make it'spresence felt in MCO. A few years down the line, but if the economics span out, it will be a great tourist transporter.
Especially to thinner deep South American markets than GRU, like GIG or EZE or SCL* with Latam. However, like you indicated, I don't see these coming anytime soon.
*Sustained scheduled service to SCL, not the seasonal charters being offered this So. Hemisphre
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SANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5850 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8591 times:
The poster-child city for the Dreamliner is SAN.
Depending on the final performance numbers Boeing establishes for their new baby, I am very willing to bet that the Route Development team at SDIA/SDCRAA will be all over several foreign flags (and, SJC aside, I'd bet a buck that ANA is real high on the list!) as to how soon SAN will be scheduled for nonstop service to Asia. (And I'm pretty sure that they won't turn up their noses at more Europe or South America service either.)
There's also a pretty wide-held belief that BA will probably put a 787 on the SAN-LHR route when the plane joins their fleet -- that is unless the capacity of the T7 is needed for the passenger and cargo loads!
In any case, with the projected size of SAN's intercontinental markets, along with the terrain issues of Lindbergh Field, as I said, the 787 is exactly what San Diego is waiting for.
SCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8991 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8531 times:
Quoting netjetsintl (Reply 21): so LAN is not planing on operating the 787 direct from SCL to Europe? Not even SCL- JFK/MIA??
Of course LAN will operate the B-787s to Europe and also Oceania from SCL (LAN has 32 B-787s on order). The GYE-MAD and LIM-MAD routes currently operate with the B-767-316ERs and are weight restricted. LAN may eventually operate SCL-LAX-SCL 3x weekly year-round as well with the B-787-8. Flights such as SCL-JFK would require two B-787s since LAN operates nightly departures in both directions. LAN SCL-MIA operates in a fashion in which the a/c arrives into MIA very early and turns around at MIA and operates routes, i.e. MIA-BOG-SCL, MIA-CCS-SCL, MIA-CCS-GYE-SCL, MIA-CUN-SCL, MIA-PUJ-SCL, etc.
Quoting MCOGVADCA (Reply 18): Sustained scheduled service to SCL, not the seasonal charters being offered this So. Hemisphre
Coronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1620 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (3 years 7 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8470 times:
Quoting SANFan (Reply 20): There's also a pretty wide-held belief that BA will probably put a 787 on the SAN-LHR route when the plane joins their fleet -- that is unless the capacity of the T7 is needed for the passenger and cargo loads!
BA could always add a second 787 out of SAN, at least on the busier days if slots are hard to find at LHR. I'm hoping for KLM 787's to AMS myself. The new terminal expansion will help open things up a bit too in 2013 as far as accommodating the 787's and international service. ANA to NRT will be tough. That flight is against the wind.
Uncle SAN at your service!
: Just to add some already announced routes: IAH-LOS IAH-AKL Both will be UA (announced as CO), subject to change obviously.
: I don't have the performance or range data in front of me, but I would think the 787-8 could easily do SAN-NRT with a full payload.
: Howdy D. Sure, 2 flights to LHR would always be OK! Yes, even though the SDIA gang has moved their priority of new intercontinental service away from
: It should be noted that LAN intends to receive 32 B-787 Dreamliners between 2012 and 2016. Also, LAN has 10 purchase options for the B-787 Dreamliners
: Well it's on now! First dreamliner just landed in Tokyo. Can't wait to see how much this beautiful bird changes things, the routes will be the next 75
: Is QF taking any up? Seems like the perfect solution for SYD-DFW (and the return leg, without stopping in BNE )
: A big on this post, RWA'! There certainly are (well, "will be") plenty of Dreamliners to go around for many, many new markets. bb
: It's a de facto charter, even if they do offer EZE connections. The key phrase in my original post was "sustained:" operating for a few weeks over th
: The service is marketed via LANTOURS and is available for sale via different distribution channels; including LAN.com. Should the service do well, LA
: 32 787s for LAN? WOW.... I knew they had some 787s on order and that they were the largest customer in Latin America, but didn't know they had 32 comi
: The company has huge potential for growth in the coming years; especially when considering the combination with TAM and the new LAN HUB at BOG. This
: TOM is suppose to get the 787 around the start of 2012. I heard they was going to start up some new routes like LGW-HNL etc... but I don't think that
: 787-8 doesn't have legs to do DFW-SYD. Hopefully 787-9 will. Basically you can predict future 787 routes by looking at any route currently serviced b
: VS will certainly use them to MCO when they get them. QF is getting 789s from 2014, but no 788s at this stage (all 15 are for JQ). I'm not convinced
: Many years ago, Virgin Atlantic said that the 787 would allow them to operate non-stop to HNL and PER from LHR. I know that is a long time ago, and th
: This has just come up in another thread -- personally I don't see it working. The range might be there (maybe, but only if Boeing meets its initial t