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Pilot Falls Ill On AA 777 Flight  
User currently offlinesevenfeet From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 56 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 19 hours ago) and read 19852 times:

It looks like a 777 made an unscheduled stop at a place they normally don't fly to: BNA. The Tennessean newspaper is reporting that one of the pilots fell ill and the flight (#2050, Chicago to Miami) was diverted to Nashville. The pilot has been taken to the hospital in stable condition. The plane is schedule to leave again about 3 PM CT but was waiting for a relief pilot to be flown in.

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20...dyssey=mod|breaking|text|FRONTPAGE

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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (3 years 18 hours ago) and read 19367 times:

They were not messing around. They stayed out on the runway and he stopped pretty short from his touchdown point. Guess they wanted the medics on-board pretty quick.


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User currently offlinemffoda From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 18 hours ago) and read 19308 times:

He didn't have the Fish... did he? 

Seriously, hope its nothing life threatening.



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User currently offlinesevenfeet From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 17 hours ago) and read 19197 times:

Apparently it was a double medical emergency. A female passenger also made the trip to the same hospital.

Regardless, it's a pretty big passenger plane to visit BNA. Usually the only widebodies we see these days are 767's that are NFL charter flights. Otherwise its pretty much a MD-88/DC-9/737/A320 destination for larger jets.

[Edited 2011-09-30 14:29:36]

User currently onlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23050 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (3 years 15 hours ago) and read 18801 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):
They stayed out on the runway and he stopped pretty short from his touchdown point. Guess they wanted the medics on-board pretty quick.

FWIW, some of the media reports say that they couldn't get a gate, but AA widebody diversions here aren't all that uncommon (usually a gas and go for DFW weather). I suspect you are correct.



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User currently offlineFSDan From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 755 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (3 years 15 hours ago) and read 18642 times:

Quoting mffoda (Reply 2):
He didn't have the Fish... did he?

Haha, that's the first thing that crossed my mind when I read the thread title. Time to inflate the autopilot...



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User currently offlinecha747 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 785 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (3 years 11 hours ago) and read 16257 times:

Quoting FSDan (Reply 5):
Time to inflate the autopilot...

It's a different kind of flying, altogether...



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User currently offlineNathanH From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 11 hours ago) and read 16025 times:

What is the procedure in a situation like this? Like, if one of the pilots is totally incapacitated, that seems like a huge workload for one pilot to get the plane down by himself, especially reading checklists, handling radios, and flying the plane.

[Edited 2011-09-30 21:08:44]

User currently offlineKBUF From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 548 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 10 hours ago) and read 15787 times:

Quoting FSDan (Reply 5):
Haha, that's the first thing that crossed my mind when I read the thread title. Time to inflate the autopilot...

They should've checked to see if Ted Striker was on board. 



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User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7301 posts, RR: 85
Reply 9, posted (3 years 10 hours ago) and read 15598 times:
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Quoting NathanH (Reply 7):
What is the procedure in a situation like this? Like, if one of the pilots is totally incapacitated, that seems like a huge workload for one pilot to get the plane down by himself, especially reading checklists, handling radios, and flying the plane.

Flight attendants help all the time.


User currently offlinecaptainstefan From United States of America, joined May 2007, 430 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 hours ago) and read 14329 times:

Quoting FSDan (Reply 5):
Time to inflate the autopilot...

You mean Otto?

Quoting cha747 (Reply 6):
It's a different kind of flying, altogether...

"It's and entirely different kind of flying."
"It's and entirely different kind of flying."

Did they need a translator who spoke Jive?

Quoting NathanH (Reply 7):
Like, if one of the pilots is totally incapacitated, that seems like a huge workload for one pilot to get the plane down by himself, especially reading checklists, handling radios, and flying the plane.

I wouldn't believe that on such a large plane going hub-to-hub that there wasn't a deadheading pilot of some kind that could assist, even if not type-rated. The flight attendants, while they can help, usually have their hands full in the cabin with wary passengers, right?



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User currently offlinecbphoto From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1560 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 hours ago) and read 14001 times:

Quoting NathanH (Reply 7):
What is the procedure in a situation like this? Like, if one of the pilots is totally incapacitated, that seems like a huge workload for one pilot to get the plane down by himself, especially reading checklists, handling radios, and flying the plane.

It is a big workload, however we are trained that in an event of a crew incapacitation, we can land the plane totally unaided. Once you declare an emergency with ATC and let them know of the situation, they can actually reduce a lot of your workload by giving you vectors to approaches and priority handling into the airport. It's tough, not something I would necessarily want to do, but if the situation demanded it, you better bet I would do it! I suspect in this case though, that there might have been either a deadheading or commuting pilot who could of helped. Also I remember their was a Continental plane that had a passenger who was a private pilot come and assist the first officer land the plane!



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User currently offlineaviatorcraig From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2010, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 7 hours ago) and read 13500 times:

Quoting NathanH (Reply 7):
What is the procedure in a situation like this? Like, if one of the pilots is totally incapacitated, that seems like a huge workload for one pilot to get the plane down by himself, especially reading checklists, handling radios, and flying the plane.

This made me think of a flight some twenty years ago:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_5390

If you cannot hear the radio and your checklist has just blown out of the window, your workload has just reduced!  



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User currently offlineboeing727 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 954 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 hours ago) and read 10133 times:

Quoting NathanH (Reply 7):
What is the procedure in a situation like this? Like, if one of the pilots is totally incapacitated, that seems like a huge workload for one pilot to get the plane down by himself, especially reading checklists, handling radios, and flying the plane.

Had to do it on a CRJ200 proving flight from 36,000 feet over KMCI; on the ground in less than 15 minutes (VFR conditions). It is a little more stressful, but definitely manageable.

Boeing727


User currently offlineHBGDS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 hours ago) and read 9691 times:

Quoting KBUF (Reply 8):
What is the procedure in a situation like this? Like, if one of the pilots is totally incapacitated, that seems like a huge workload for one pilot to get the plane down by himself, especially reading checklists, handling radios, and flying the plane.

ATC usually clears everything around you and you may choose to initiate emergency descent (i.e. as if the aircraft were experiencing technical difficulties), or so I've read in published cases. SR had such an emergency on one of its 747-357s sometime in the late 80s or early 90s, when the captain had a heart attack and collapsed unconscious. The co-pilot was able to land the plane in Helsinki.


User currently offlineCOS777 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6158 times:

Quoting NathanH (Reply 7):
What is the procedure in a situation like this? Like, if one of the pilots is totally incapacitated, that seems like a huge workload for one pilot to get the plane down by himself, especially reading checklists, handling radios, and flying the plane.

The fact that the airplane has a good autopilot goes a long ways. General aviation pilots fly IFR all the time single pilot, admittedly there are fewer cockpit procedures, but the instrumentation and autopilots usually aren't as good as the commercial airliners. If you want a big workload, the Fairchild Metroliner is a twin-engine turboprop that is certified for single pilot ops (as long as it is part 91 or 135) and many of them have no autopilot at all.


User currently offlineNathanH From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6088 times:

Thanks for all the answers! I didn't doubt that it could be done. I was just curious about the actual hows, and that has been greatly answered.

User currently onlinelonghauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5003 posts, RR: 43
Reply 17, posted (2 years 12 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6021 times:

Quoting NathanH (Reply 7):
What is the procedure in a situation like this? Like, if one of the pilots is totally incapacitated, that seems like a huge workload for one pilot to get the plane down by himself, especially reading checklists, handling radios, and flying the plane.

On top of what was already mentioned ... we are also trained on some other "single pilot" worse case scenarios. Like:

A rapid decompression caused emergency descent where one of the pilots is incapacitated. Not all that far fetched if you think about it. One pilot must do both sides of the emergency descent drill.

Or ... my favourite ... (sarcasm)

One pilot becomes incapacitated during the takeoff roll, the other pilot notices it and rejects the takeoff (alone). During the reject you have an uncontrollable engine fire necessitating an evacuation. (I usually leave the dead F/O behind.   )



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