UnitedTristar From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1241 posts, RR: 4 Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 43249 times:
* Includes Weber 5751 cloth seats with power ports in 3-3-3 configuration and new larger PTVs with AVOD and winged headrests. 777 fleet reconfiguration should be complete by 2013.
New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for Continental International Fleet
Not including GUM based aircraft.
VC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2426 posts, RR: 9 Reply 3, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 43079 times:
I just encountered a new UA booking plan for 777's. I was on my wasy to GRU from IAD. To GRU they use an old configured 777, however, no matter what your status is they WILL NOT upgrade you even with a systemwide until departure at the gate. No pre upgrading before because "if" they swap equipment at the last minute and they put on a NEW configuration 777 then they don't want to bump you backwards as there are less seats in F on the new 777. Makes sense- but I reserve my systemwides just for that - an OLD 777 so I can go from a full fare business seat in the OLD recliner and get the bed seat- old as it might be. The same policy exisits for people looking to bump up from economy to business. There are less biz seats on the new config.
So beware if you choose UA and wish to upgrade on a 777-- be sure to ask first if it's an old or new configuration and see if they can upgrade you- they will if F is empty enough that it does not exceed the new F seating and if they still have some revenue seats to sell. -- I did fly last night but my upgrade didn't clear until 10 minutes before boarding and did only because I was GS. (And they are NOT maintaining the seats at all- old, tattered cushions and the personal player was busted- the ice cream took an hour to melt enough to put a spoon in)
The world is missing love, let's use our flights to spread it!
kgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 3650 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 42971 times:
kfitz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 42931 times:
Yeah, just had the old 777 back from Dulles on Friday. While I love the old F suites (collapsable armrest, the front table you can slide forward into, the width around your head in bed mode, how they face the windows and not inward), it's painfully obvious the company has just given up on maintaining these seats - some of them are truley pathetic. My armrest was destroyed (could be taken off completely), the tape player door was missing, reading lamp didn't work, the PTV woulsnt stand up straight (and it looked shot, with nothing but dark lines), and the seat controls looked filthy. this isn't the first time either - I flew to Chicago two weeks ago on an old 777 and it was a similar story. Same with the sfo-lax 777 I had last month, only that seat wouldn't even fully recline. woops!
It sounds like UA has determined it's cheaper to simply compensate their F flyers with generous vouchers/miles for these disasterously conditioned seats than actually fix them. They will all be gone by 2013...
Sulley From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 501 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 42773 times:
In other news, on the CO side, the IFE on non-AVOD or DirecTV equipped planes have been replaced with UA's IFE programming. Continental Visions is no more. No loss there.
The in-flight music channels are also all new -- no more Zune or PMCO offerings.
Domestic F meals are also provisioned with the PMUA salt and pepper packets (albeit with the globe now). The salt and pepper shakers have been retired.
Ford3motor From United States of America, joined Sep 2011, 72 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 41709 times:
Anyone have a new PMUA paint schedule/timeline?
I have two repaint schedules/timelines for PMUA mainline aircraft, published by United in Dec 2010 and Mar 2011. Both of them match each other but neither one matches what has been completed so far. Here are the numbers...
by 6/30/2011 scheduled complete - 139
actual complete (back on the line) - 107
by 9/30/2011 scheduled complete - 197
actual complete (back on the line) - 127
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22041 posts, RR: 51 Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 41056 times:
I understand the CO fleet has been assigned fleet ID's to align them with UA nomenclature.
For example the United international 3-class 763 fleet is known as MI / 67I.
These ID numbers are used internally in everything from reservations to crewing to documentation.
Additionally the to be retrofitted United domestic 767-300 aircraft which starts this winter will be known as ME / 67E once out in their new 2-class international configuration.
Lastly, I understand the planned 787-8 delivery configuration should be 36+183 of which 63 are Y+.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
n7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1495 posts, RR: 12 Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 41001 times:
Great info...thanks. I had no idea CO took the short field performance which I believe was first developed for GOL. They must be the recent deliveries since that package has only been around 2-3 years. Any idea which ship numbers?
BAe146 From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 161 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 40868 times:
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22041 posts, RR: 51 Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 40890 times:
United fleet.
A319 = AJ / 19J
A320 = AB / 20B
A320 = AD / 20D (ex TED 6 added seats)
A320 = AU / 20U (over-water)
A320 = AV / 20V (ex TED with 6 extra seats, over water)
747-400 = OC / 47C
757-200 = MP / 57p (p.s.)
757-200 = MQ / 57Q
757-200 = MU / 57U (overwater)
757-200 = MX / 57X (ETOPS)
767-300 = MD / 67D (2-class domestic)
767-300 = ME / 67E (future 2-class Intl)
767-300 = MI / 67I (3-class)
777-200 = XA / 77A (non ER, 2-class domestic)
777-200 = XC / 77C (non ER)
777-200 = XD / 77D (non ER, IPTE)
777-200 = XI / 77I (ER)
777-200 = XJ / 77J (ER, IPTE)
777-200 = XP / 77P (ER, crew module)
777-200 = XQ / 77Q (ER, IPTE, crew module)
There is a further 757 sub fleet version with only nose number differences in the MP and MX fleets to differentiate winglet vs non-winglet equipped.
Additionally there is a single MQ floating around with 4 additional economy seats and testing a new slimline cabin.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
FL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1499 posts, RR: 12 Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 40774 times:
* Includes Weber 5751 cloth seats with power ports in 3-3-3 configuration and new larger PTVs with AVOD and winged headrests. 777 fleet reconfiguration should be complete by 2013.
New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for Continental International Fleet
Not including GUM based aircraft.
Ford3motor From United States of America, joined Sep 2011, 72 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 40690 times:
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22041 posts, RR: 51 Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 40602 times:
Quoting n7371f (Reply 9): Any idea which ship numbers?
I don't have the tail numbers with me, however its 25 tails as of now.
Quoting FL787 (Reply 12): Are there any ways to identify an SFP 738 other than finding out the ID?
There are a bunch of small changes, however I believe the best visible difference is the tail skid.
The SFP uses the -900ER two-postion tail skid.
n7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1495 posts, RR: 12 Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 40545 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 15): There are a bunch of small changes, however I believe the best visible difference is the tail skid.
The SFP uses the -900ER two-postion tail skid.
There was a thread about it
B737-800 Rear Fuselage/tail Question (pic) (by LNv22 Mar 19 2008 in Tech Ops)
Other things like sealed slats are unlikely to be noticed unless you really know what you are looking at.
This site is a good source for those interested on the SFP and the diagrams...
FL787 From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 1499 posts, RR: 12 Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 40401 times:
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6083 posts, RR: 56 Reply 18, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 40304 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 8): I understand the CO fleet has been assigned fleet ID's to align them with UA nomenclature.
For example the United international 3-class 763 fleet is known as MI / 67I.
These ID numbers are used internally in everything from reservations to crewing to documentation.
Additionally the to be retrofitted United domestic 767-300 aircraft which starts this winter will be known as ME / 67E once out in their new 2-class international configuration.
Hi LAXintl !
Thanks for the info !
Will this also mean that the PMCO fleet will get UA four-digit fleentumbers eg 2822 = N222UA ?
The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
n7371f From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 1495 posts, RR: 12 Reply 19, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 40061 times:
Will this also mean that the PMCO fleet will get UA four-digit fleentumbers eg 2822 = N222UA ?
The777Man
They already have. Continental aircraft now have '0' or '00' or '000' in front of the ship number to mesh with the four digit UA codes. A CO 777 is now ship '0002'; a CO 764 is now ship '0064'; a CO 737 is now ship '0254'. They started this immediately upon the merger and initiation of painting.
MDTrunner From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 43 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 39965 times:
warreng24 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 683 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 39888 times:
LAXintl... thank you very much for posting the fleet information. That's handy stuff to know.
CODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2167 posts, RR: 8 Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 39867 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 15): I don't have the tail numbers with me, however its 25 tails as of now.
kgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 3650 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 39789 times:
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6083 posts, RR: 56 Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 39756 times:
Quoting n7371f (Reply 19): They already have. Continental aircraft now have '0' or '00' or '000' in front of the ship number to mesh with the four digit UA codes. A CO 777 is now ship '0002'; a CO 764 is now ship '0064'; a CO 737 is now ship '0254'. They started this immediately upon the merger and initiation of painting.
That/s not the same system. All the CO planes just have a zero in front of the ship number; UA's aircraft have different numbers depending on confiugration. An IPTE 777-200/ER is 28xx, while a 777-200 with IPTE seats is 24xx.
Since all CO planes have a 0, there's no way to figure out the different versions unless you check on a computer. With UA's system you can visually just look at the aircraft to know which version it is.
The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
25 KCZG: N362PX came over from the US operation in BOS, and is currently flying out of IAH.
26 T5towbar: I thought too was the "500" ship number 800's were the ones with the short field performance package, because most of the "200" ship numbers are 800'
27 warreng24: Is the 73P the Continental Micronesia aircraft (without DirectTV)?
28 bmibaby737: It would be quite interesting to get confirmation on which aircraft are SFP
29 warreng24: The first 100 deliveries of 738's are the "200's." It appears (from an outsider) that CO simply ran out of "200" numbers after the first 100 deliveri
30 CODC10: The 0500 ship numbers are indeed 737-800s, but only because 0201-0299 are already assigned. Like I said, I am pretty confident that 0507+ are 737-800
31 as739x: SkyWest add: 956 to the new livery list. One of my co-workers was just in TUS and said we have 7 more new livery at the MX facility. I new once the s
32 n7371f: Where at MCO? I wasn't aware of a paint hangar or company down here.
33 n7371f: I also believe 507 and up are the SFP's as it was explained to me by someone at MCO mtc. Regarding the 738 ship numbers...the first delivery actually
35 MDTrunner: The PMUA 777 with 3-3-3 are sweeeeeet. Rode one from DEN-ORD. This A/C nose # 2888 seemed pretty freshly redone.
36 mcoatc: There isn't one. There are the two Continental mx hangars, but they don't do any painting that I'm aware of. Nor have I ever seen an OO jet here befo
37 ck8msp: When is it looking like SOC will be complete?
38 FriendlySkies: Kind of off topic but I did not think it was worthy of a new thread. I noticed in the photo below that it is tagged as a 787-822. Curious if this has
39 qfatwa: Checking Flight Aware, Micronesia aircraft N14249 has not been operational for a few weeks - possibly the current aircraft in HK for check and rebrand
41 iahcsr: Minor trivia correction. The 738 number sequencing was 210-250, Then back-filling 201-209 (for exactly the reason given by n7371f) then 251-299 and 5
44 sldispatcher: Two things: I noticed in the in flight magazine today that Mr. Smisek mentioned the 787's replacing widebodies...I'm assuming those are targets on the
45 United787: I didn't see this anywhere else on A-Net, but the first UA 787 rolled out of the factory... seen on United's Facebook Site: http://www.facebook.com/#!
46 Ford3motor: Since this was missed on a previous post, please add this to the list. PMUA A319 821UA leaving GLH tonight. 827UA flying to GLH tonight. Thanks!
47 ordramper98: Three 757 have now been retired. 542, 582, & 583 unfortunately are gone. 5442 was already in the new paint (what a waste). Also Mesa 512MJ has bee
48 scorpy: were they due heavy checks? or expiring leases?, as these are newer than some..
49 ordramper98: I'm pretty sure they were expiring leases. There are now 93 PMUA 757's. Not sure how many are leaving in the near future, but have heard rumors from s
50 n7371f: This is pure speculation...but I just wonder if these planes had to go back because the lessor had sold the 757's to FedEx. FedEx has been gobbling u
51 qfatwa: I have removed only N582UA from the total as the other two were flying during the past few days. United A319 (22/55) 801-803 [3], 807, 821, 824, 826-
52 na: Its seems odd that that from all types the fleet flagship has the lowest percentage of repainting yet. Are the 744 so heavily utilized in comparison t
53 kgaiflyer: I'm sure they are -- and there are fewer of that type for substitutions, yes?
54 ordramper98: n7371f, I guess I posted too early. I knew 583 was flying IAD-SFO as it's last flight, but I thought it had landed already. 542 had its last revenue f
55 n7371f: Cool, thanks...Did 584 really go through its decommish at IAH? Wonder who that plane is being sold to...
56 ordramper98: 584 is still part of the fleet. It must be in IAH for maintenance. The PMUA 757's are now getting maintenance done on them in IAH & MCO by CO.
57 Drerx7: Will that mean UA scheduling more birds thru IAH? Or will they just use the single daily 757s via ORD/DEN/SFO?
58 ordramper98: Sorry, I don't know the answer to that. I just see that they are going to IAH & MCO for maintenance. I don't even know what checks are being done
59 bmibaby737: So, would this now be correct for the three Boeing 757 retirements? Presumably they'll position to the desert for storage soon? N542UA Boeing 757-222
60 kgaiflyer: In other CO-UA threads, it had been proposed that the 739ER was capable of flying a good number of the missions currently flown by 757s -- though obv
61 CALPSAFltSkeds: Remember UA and CO have over 130 752s and at least the PMCO ones will stay in the fleet for maybe another decade. Since the PMUA 752s operate a lot o
62 LAXintl: Yes, the 757s time at United is starting to wind down. UA has dozen or so frames with lease terminations in the next year, they most likely will get r
63 cslusarc: Does anyone have any exact details on whether these lease cancellations where driven by UA or the lessor?
64 SonomaFlyer: IIRC, these are timing out on their own.
65 CALPSAFltSkeds: That may be the case, but the 739ER has a payload problem with headwinds and ETOPS fuel requirements. My wife and I got bumped last spring off a LAX-
66 CODC10: Alaska doesn't fly the 737-900ER period. I don't believe their ERs are on property yet.
67 TOMMY767: That's bad news for some UA routings like BOS-SFO/LAX. A 739ER would take a payload hit during the winter for certain. There have even been diversons
68 SonomaFlyer: AS flies 737-800's for most West Coast-Hawaii flights. They also fly the 737-700's from ANC to Hawaii.
69 STT757: When they add economy plus that will reduce the seating capacity (weight) of the aircraft which will improve range a bit. CO has been flying 737-900ER
70 CODC10: Not necessarily. LAX-HNL is a different case because of mandatory ETOPS reserves for the overwater haul. BOS-SFO/LAX is not subject to such stringent
71 TOMMY767: BOS-SFO/LAX can definitely do 738, but 739 would be iffy. I think you'll see 757s on these routes for a while.
72 kgaiflyer: But they used to fly the 739A. Back in the days when AS had a station at Washington-Dulles, they used to fill them up. I also remember that when wint
73 kgaiflyer: This sounds a bit like the early criticisms of US-East's A321 transcons. First reports were that the "European" plane was hop-scotching across the co
74 kgaiflyer: My error -- AS still has 12 739-990s All were delivered between May 2001 and September 2003. Even though all were delivered without winglets, 9 frame
75 TOMMY767: Then why have CO's diverted during the past few winters on transcons from EWR? I recall one last year that diverted on CLE-LAX as well. Not saying th
76 Drerx7: That's not a common event though. It happens yes - especially when prevailing winds are slamming everybody - its a good chance that those days you se
77 kgaiflyer: Don't mistake me for a 757 hater -- I am certainly not that. However, I do say "Welcome to the club!" to the 739 series -- with whatever configuratio
78 AA737-823: No they don't; the -700s aren't ETOPS, and they don't fly them from here to HI. ANC-SEA is only a 3-3.5 hour flight; hardly a range test for any in-p
79 kgaiflyer: You know -- my one and only AS ANC-SEA 739A flight was an overnight redeye and crossed one time zone, so it seemed longer than that. Regardless -- I
80 AA737-823: Indeed... I have the fortuitous luxury of working on them (737NG) for a living.. trust me, you'd respect them even more were you in my shoes!
81 TOMMY767: Back on topic, anybody notice any further equipment swaps between CO and UA aircraft for the fall? I saw a random 738 (one day, one way only) on EWR-I
82 CODC10: It happens from time to time. Just recently, a CO 757-200 operated EWR-IAD on 9/29 (or thereabouts) to position for the then-new second IAD-CDG frequ
83 Drerx7: On a related note, I would've thought that CO/UA would have begun to funnel more traffic via IAD from IAH. IAH-IAD has remained pretty stagnant in ter
84 Ford3motor: PMUA paint update... B777 (2-class) 214UA leaving VCV tomorrow (10/19). 215UA (non blue and white, and the last of the six 2-class 777s to be painted)
85 fun2fly: Sweet, new logo for my HNL>ORD flight next week. What is the schedule for the UA RJ's? Seems unbelievably slow. Does this have to do with contract
86 bonusonus: I forgot that this wasn't the "739ER range question" thread. While we're on the subject of getting off topic, I'd like to hear an update on the progr
87 qfatwa: Does anyone know why the former CO change to UA titles has stalled on the remaining 47 aircraft? United A319 (23/55) 801-803 [3], 807, 821, 824, 826-
88 bmibaby737: "N446UA at ORD since 22 June." by qfatwa United/Continental Existing Fleet Upgrade Status 6 Could anyone confirm if Airbus A320 N446UA is actually in
89 kgaiflyer: I would agree that everyone seems to have reached a comfort level with themselves and each brand has service that makes them comfortable. For instanc
91 TOMMY767: I would agree that everyone seems to have reached a comfort level with themselves and each brand has service that makes them comfortable. For instance
92 bmibaby737: The four Boeing 737-500 aircraft that have yet to recieve the new (2010) cs are those below. I remember reading that the active fleet at the end of t
93 kgaiflyer: No differences from the previous services I've had? Not sure what answers you want -- it's the wrong place to look for a trip report (if that's what
94 TOMMY767: I meant what made each UA and CO crew into "themselves" with no attempt to rationalize service? Your response was a little vague.
95 kgaiflyer: Yes I know. I wasn't attempting to be comprehensive -- just responding to the previous post. Well . . . since I fly CO-COEx and UA-UAX about 50% 50%
96 AA737-823: I hope this one is parked- that airplane is junk! Last time I flew on her in 1A, I could hear the engine through the window... and the air going by..
99 ybacpa: It looks to me like they're probably up to the point where most of the remaining aircraft aren't going to be in the fleet long enough to justify repa
100 TOMMY767: UA is not keeping the non-er 739s around? This is news to me.
102 Drerx7: Exactly, its not hard for CO to keep nonER 900s apart from the ERs. Their are plenty of routes that don't need the ER such as IAH-MSY/MCO/TPA/FLL/CUN
103 Ford3motor: PMUA paint update... B767 (2-class) 675UA exited VCV 10/20. 672UA (non blue and white) entered paint at VCV on 10/20. B757 566UA exited AMA 10/19. 538
104 AussieItaliano: Why does it seem like the painting of CO planes has stopped?
105 trevd: Most of the nonER 900s are in EETC structures that don't mature for quite some time, some (4) were even re-financed in the recent 2010-1 EETC which d
106 SonomaFlyer: The finance issue should be the clincher for a.netters understanding the 900's aren't going away. There are literally hundreds of city pairings which
107 kgaiflyer: I don't know either -- but a logical guess would be that the limited number of paint shops must take care of the most disreputable UA paint jobs now.
110 qfatwa: Airways Magazine weekly fleet review shows that N11641 returned to lessor on 7th October - good spot bmibaby737. Photographs confirm N14168 and N1217
111 BAe146: It looks like N943SW was mistyped as N934SW. N943SW is the one that should be listed.
112 robo65: [quote=ATLflyer,reply=109]When do 764 upgrades begin The first aircraft to get lie flat seats is currently in HKG undergoing heavy check, at the same
113 VC10er: Do we know when there will be 23 777's in UA international reconfigured F and C plus carpeting, bulkheads and Y seat covers AND at what pace we can s
114 SonomaFlyer: The replies above constantly give updates. They have almost half the fleet done and the balance are supposed to be finished in 2013. Most of us hope
115 VC10er: I hope so too. It just like "a watched pot never boils" and it's been stuck on 22 for what seems like forever! Those old 777's just keep spoiling UA'
116 Drerx7: With the SOC taking place on 11/11/11; will we finally see crossfleeting occur in mass shortly thereafter?
117 UnitedTristar: I think it will be more after the common crew contracts. -m
118 CAL: Rumor has it everything is not in place for 11/11/11 and that its been pushed back to 11/30/11.
119 BAe146: Skywest CRJ-200 N471CA is now painted.
120 Ford3motor: PMUA paint update... B757 565UA exited VCV 10/25. no replacement. A319 829UA exited GLH 10/25. 820UA (non blue and white) entered GLH 10/25. currently
121 n7371f: Got confirmation that (14) additional 737-500's will leave during 2012. (5) additional 757-200's will also leave (assuming from the UA side) to make w
123 Algoz66: Anyone know the whereabouts of N229UA - cannot find it in Unimatic....has it gone??
124 United1: 229 is scheduled to fly from LAX-PVG today....I don't believe any 777s are leaving the fleet.
125 Algoz66: Thanks for that - I see the nose is 2029......don't know why the departure from 26xx or 28xx or 29xx....no other aircraft have 20xx. Must be a new con
126 CIDFlyer: when are the ERJ-70s going to be painted? I am looking forward to seeing those in the new livery.
127 Avi8: How long does it normally take for an aircraft to be repainted? How does it affect the airline's schedule since they have one less aircraft flying or
128 KCZG: 9L Update: N350CJ appears to have been repainted at GLH, as it is now flying out of IAD instead of BOS. It ferried to IAD on 10/27. N242CJ was sent to
131 BAe146: Skywest CRJ-200 N936SW is now painted. N956SW is not painted though, and is still grey.
132 qfatwa: I have found a photograph of Expressjet N11164 in new UNITED livery [formerly in Expressjet]. United A319 (24/55) 801-803 [3], 807, 820-821, 824, 826
136 scorpy: FYI, those domestic 767's are all ETOPS as they currently spend most of their time flying between Hawaii and the west coast.
137 n515cr: Doh! Good point, forgot about that. I retract that part of my earlier statement
138 ordramper98: I'm pretty sure I saw it was at FTW for paint (in Unimatic). I'm off the next two so I can't check, sorry[Edited 2011-11-03 15:51:29]
139 United1: I didn't know that they had a paintshop at FTW? .... actually I'm not even sure there is a hangar large enough for a 763 at FTW.
140 UnitedTristar: Looks to be new! http://www.timesleader.com/FwBp/news...g-150-jobs-to-Meacham-Airport.html its not even listed on the company's website as a location
142 blueflyer: So new I hadn't noticed it was done even though I drive by/to/from at least twice a week nearly every week! I'll have to take a peek. Too bad they ja
143 working2gether: Is N798UA (B777) new configuration? Because the aircraft number United is giving me for IAD-PEK tomorrow (November 8) is ship N798UA but the seating m
144 The777Man: N708UA is sdcheduled for 8Nov11 and is in old configuration. N797UA is scheduled for 7Nov11 and is in new configuration. The777Man
145 working2gether: I got my dates mixed up. But thank you for your help!
146 The777Man: Sorry for the typo; should be N798UA for 8Nov. The777Man
147 lesismore: Thanks, but I can't find this "news" anywhere. Is this offcial?
148 STT757: Jeff Smisek stated in their recent quarterly investors conference call that the remainder (8) of the 767-200ER fleet will be retired *if* the planned
149 OldTTAguy: New here. Love the content. So much information being shared. Thanks to all. My question: Does anyone know what United/Continental is planning for 787
150 United1: CH Aviation is listing the first UA 787-822 ln 45 (and per the website it is an -822 not -824) as being registered as N27901. http://www.ch-aviation.c
151 quiet1: Really? At the top of your post it says "joined Dec 1969..."
152 flyhossd: So it's a -x22 (Boeing's code for UAL) but registered to Continental (per the FAA web site)? Interesting... Last I heard, the first U.C.H. 787 won't
153 FriendlySkies: I think for legal reasons that has to be the case, since CO bought it. I am kind of surprised they did not use a NxxxUA registration though, the airl
154 OldTTAguy: I saw that Dec 1969 date also. Not sure how it got in there. I'm new to Airliners.net for sure but not new to the industry. A hire date of 10/11/67 qu
155 LAXintl: Since people have asked here is an update of planed routings for December of the IPTE 777 fleet. IAD-DXB IAD-KWI-BAH IAD-LHR 918/919 IAD-LHR 924/925 I
156 FL787: Has there been any word of maybe converting a few PMUA 772s to a 2-class configuration recently? I find it tough to believe that if the new UA is goin
157 VC10er: The more 777's with 3 class the better! The 3 class business seat is longer with a better foot rest. And if you are 1k or higher and the plane is ful
158 qfatwa: Guam operated aircraft N14249 has returned to service [4 Nov] and N14735 has ceased service [28 Nov]. Based on previous trends, as part of the overhau
159 Ford3motor: PMUA paint update... B777 (3-class) 786UA exits VCV 11/13. 782UA (non blue and white) entered VCV 11/1. B767 (2-class) 667UA (non blue and white) ente
161 Ford3motor: PMUA paint update and corrections... A319 count should be 29/55. A319 a/c 828UA is in AMA for paint and not GLH. (my mistake) B777 (3-class) 782UA exi
163 bmibaby737: I can only count 20 listed here? I presume N780UA is one of the missing ones, which was IPTE converted in August - but which is the other that is cou
164 qfatwa: Flight Aware shows 737-500 N16649 was not operational from 11th October, and on 14th November flew from Houston to Bangor to Keflavik. Aircraft will b
165 Fyano773: Planemart shows these planes as available now: 767-224ER 30435 CF6-80C2B4F 375000 2001-01 47858 7107 Sale Immediately 767-224ER 30431 CF6-80C2B4F 375
166 United1: Looks like the first of the reconfigured 767-400s will roll out the 19th of this month. flat bed seats up front Y+ channel 9 AVOD in J/Y inseat power
167 Sulley: I'm still wondering if it will have a new interior or if it will keep CO's blue checkered seats...
168 TOMMY767: UA is installing different seats on their IPTE 777s, wonder if it will be that kind instead?
169 United1: I have no idea about the color scheme but supposedly the 2-class 763/764 and 788 are all receiving the same seats in Y class...slimline with the inte
170 VC10er: Can someone start a separate thread when UA finally goes to 23 777's in all new 3 class configuration, please. And is there a schedule for the rest of
171 aznmadsci: Do you which plane is up next and how long it takes for the reconfiguration?
172 pilotfox: Skywest 952SW is in the new paint. I think there are a lot more OO 200s out there in new paint.
173 United787: I hope they aren't those same awful seats that CO uses on the 739s...
174 Ford3motor: PMUA paint update... A320 455UA exited GLH 11/18. A319 846UA exited GLH 11/18. 828UA exits AMA 11/21. 825UA (non blue and white) entered GLH 11/17. 85
175 United787: I was just looking at this wiki page and it looks like the repainting effort has actually concentrated on painting the old battleship grey liveries fi
176 AA737-823: A319 N829UA is painted- I flew on her yesterday. That said, I'd just gotten off of N556UA... look in the database, this has got to be the worst lookin
177 Ford3motor: Already on the list. Agreed. (not including 575UA) You will like this update. PMUA paint update... B777 (3-class) 228UA exited VCV 11/27. 227UA (non
178 AA737-823: Sorry, but when I checked to see if my bird was on the list, I scrolled up too high and found a list that didn't have it! Then, I got soo excited to
180 SonomaFlyer: They are supposed to be done in 2013 and at last count, about 25 were done. They apparently try to use the "new" configs on certain flights (like 930
181 UA933: When will they continue to paint more 744s? The did 3 of them at the beginning of the year and that's it until now...
182 AA737-823: 744 utilisation is high in the northern hemisphere summer; indeed, last year, they pulled an old colors 744 out of the desert to use as a needed spar
183 United787: It looks like we may go from 4 liveries to 2 liveries very quickly since the PMCO aircraft are in the home stretch and the PMUA Battleship Grey are al
184 SonomaFlyer: CO simply because their paint job is much easier, just the UNITED titles as opposed to a complete repaint.
185 n515cr: It'd be interesting to see how many PMCO planes are left as of today since there hasn't been an update on those birds recently, and right now, the po
186 Ford3motor: Including this update, I believe there are about 17 PMUA semi-painted aircraft remaining. B757 540UA exited AMA 11/29. 575UA (non blue and white) ent
187 n515cr: Wow. My money's on mainline battleship going away before mainline CO at this point. Those 738's don't seem to get much downtime.
188 tu154: According to Wikipedia, which I know is not the most up to days or reliable source. There are: 6 - A319 1 - B757 4 - B767 6 - B777 Left in the battle
189 Sulley: I'm going to pop open a bottle of champagne the day grubby gray is put to rest. They're pushing them through like an assembly line!
190 tu154: LOL. I haven't seen one in weeks. Just the odd B767 at Dulles. It is amazing how fast they are repainting to the new combined colors! Much faster tha
192 Ford3motor: Fairly close to what I have... 6 - A319 2 - B757 3 - B767 6 - B777
193 United787: Just came across this video from UA on YouTube showing a 747 conversion to the new interiors... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8nO-w9Iz2Y&feature
194 QFATWA: Photographs have confirmed Expressjet livery aircraft N17185 now in new United livery and N14158 retitled. United A319 (33/55) 801-803 [3], 807, 820-8
195 CALPSAFltSkeds: Looking at that video another one was shown that was uploaded in July that looks like a UA commercial with a few hiccups. But, the video states about
196 TOMMY767: Based on the font, I think that commercial was just a fake user mock up.
197 Ford3motor: PMUA paint update... B777 (3-class) 791UA exited VCV 12/7. 227UA exiting VCV 12/8. 798UA (non blue and white) entered VCV 12/7. 796UA (non blue and wh
198 na: Cant see it being reported here: 747-400 N173UA, one of the oldest fleet members, has been parked. I dont know if its for repainting, if its a winter
199 Ford3motor: You are correct in that United is not flying it. It is NOT in for painting. Possibly a lease termination but not sure. If it IS a permanent removal f
200 ORDBOSEWR: According to the July 2011 fleet plan they have 1 747 being removed. This brings the new total of 23 747's in the fleet at end of year 2011. That was
202 CALPSAFltSkeds: I was in OGG yesterday and UA had two grubby grey 763ERs on the midday turns to LAX and SFO. While they both need to be painted, I notice both had som
203 scorpy: According to another website, this airplane is owned by wells fargo and has been returned to them (lease expired) and will be scrapped. I guess its h
204 AA737-823: It's an antenna. I forget which one.
205 LAXintl: Here is an update on 777 IPTE availability planned for January 2012. EWR-BRU IAD-BRU IAD-DXB IAD-FRA (952/953) IAD-KWI-BAH IAD-LHR (918/925) IAD-MUC I
206 STT757: Hey LAXintl, If you get a moment could you post the full 777 list as you did a month or so back, where you posted the routes where the two class 777-2
207 Ford3motor: B777 - 796UA did not enter paint shop in VCV as originally planned yesterday. Flying full schedule next few days. Will update when that changes.
208 HOMSAr: Are there different (subtle) variations of the new paint scheme? Either that, or someone screwed up when painting the nose cone on this plane: View La
209 Sulley: I've noticed that whoever paints sUA planes can NEVER get the nose cones to align correctly. Ugh!
210 CALPSAFltSkeds: There is another thread indicating Economy+ conversion of the PMCO fleet which I believe is only the 752 and 764 fleet at the moment. We should probab
211 DesertFlyer: A small contribution, but N928SW (CRJ2) was in new colors when I flew it on November 20th. http://bit.ly/sw7cGY
212 AA737-823: Rumor was that the Q4's were getting First Class.... Naturally, up front, right next to the props!
213 CALTECH: It more than likely did not come out of paint like that. This had to be a radome change. The paint shops have more pride than to let a glaring mismat
214 STT757: The Q400s are indeed getting First Class and Y+.
216 CALPSAFltSkeds: OK, then that would a make a couple of rows of 3 across, making it something like 5/20/44??? Would that be a split Y+ situation? Removing a row in fr
217 CODC10: I think so. Rows 20/21 and 33 will probably non-contiguous E+ seats. I suspect some interior fittings will be removed (galley aft of 2R, lav fwd of 3
218 SonomaFlyer: They are being phased out as soon as they get their 787's. They should be out of the fleet within the next couple of years, less depending on the del
219 CALTECH: This is number 2,3 and 4 on the assembly line. Number 1 is off the line.
220 kgaiflyer: ????? Perhaps it's my equipment here, but I have a white square with a red "X" inside rather than a picture.
221 CALPSAFltSkeds: I think you mean row 22 and not 33. I like your thoughts on the removals, but the LAXIntl note on 39Y+ would indicate that maybe the galley behind 2R
222 AA737-823: While I'm glad you're willing to post this picture in both this and the fleet update status thread, unfortunately, you must be logged into the United
223 CALTECH: Ooops, sorry about that. Here's the picture, one can just see #2's tail.
224 Ford3motor: PMUA paint update... B777 (3-class) B757 556UA exiting VCV 12/12. 536UA (non blue and white) entering VCV 12/12. 541UA (last remaining grey 757) was e
225 CALPSAFltSkeds: Continental aircraft conversion to Economy Plus Appears only active MOD line is 752 B735 (0/29) [8/106 becomes 8/40/60] B73G (0/36) [12/112 becomes 12
226 sldispatcher: I continue to see the lack of repaints on 70 seat Express aircraft to be worrisome in regards to scope (speaking from passenger perspective). Perhaps
228 FriendlySkies: The 70 seaters are very new still, I do not expect to see these painted for quite some time unless UA somehow mandates it.
229 AA737-823: Hopefully the new UA is walking away from your mentality- "the 757 delivered in 1992 is pretty new still, so we'll leave it in grubby grey." CO loved
230 sldispatcher: But for me, the real question is if the delay in painting them signifies no progress in scope? From a passenger perspective, it will be a sad day if t
231 AA737-823: I don't either, but they seem to ALL have been Mesa birds, and no SkyVest.
232 kgaiflyer: Just as a casual observation, OO seems to put it newest repaints on it's longest CR2 routes. For instance, I see them flying LAX-ELP, DEN-YYC, and SF
233 STT757: Speaking of maintenance facilities, CO (UA) just signed a deal with the Port Authority to build a new wide body hangar at EWR for the 787. CO/UA will
234 gigneil: You mean overall? There are tons of Skywest CRJ-700s that are repainted. I've been on quite a few of them, even, I wonder why we don't have them list
235 AA737-823: Well, I guess I stand corrected, but I was judging by the fact that I've never seen one, and that we're at 0/70 in the list of Skywest 700s above.
236 CALPSAFltSkeds: Continental aircraft conversion to Economy Plus Add 752 #0132 and #0135 to the list Looks like #0133 and #0136 are now in MCO Other possible in for MO
237 sldispatcher: Wow, if they are able to run that many different stations, that fleetwide conversion should happen quickly. Don't like the 764 is taking so long betw
238 gigneil: I'll be at COS in the next few weeks. i have boarded United branded OO planes there. No problemo. NS
239 CODC10: The 764 mods are in for a complete reconfiguration with all new seats, new IFE, and interior fittings moving around. 2-4 weeks per ship is definitely
240 CALPSAFltSkeds: I doubt all the above are in for MOD, rather that they were just sitting for more than a day somewhre. I think all we know is that MCO is doing one p
241 CALPSAFltSkeds: Continental aircraft conversion to Economy Plus Add 752 #0105 (LAX) and #0133 (MCO) to the list Looks like #0136 will exit MCO tomorrow and #0106 and
242 afbua1k2mm: You can add SW -- CRJ 200. 939SW to the listed spotted at ONT on 12/17/2011 inbound from SFO
243 CODC10: I was just throwing out a few fittings that could be removed/moved around to find 3 Y seats. Row 33 is a bulkhead which is currently sold as an ELR s
244 sldispatcher: I'm well aware of the timeframe. What I could not find was another 764 heading in to get mods as soon as the first bird was done. I do believe there
245 MDTrunner: We'll see how AA fares in the consistency department post bankruptcy.
246 qfatwa: Photographs confirm Expressjet N14173 now in new United livery; N16571, 14972 and N13994 retitled. United A319 (37/55) 801-803 [3], 807, 820-822 [3],
247 AA737-823: My username is nearly as old as the internet itself. In my experience, AA is perfectly consistent.... consistently bad. Hence I no longer fly them. B
248 qfatwa: I posted an update, then deleted it when I edited! [Definate operator error!!]. So here it is: Added N939SW; from N11994, N14173 [ex expressjet livery
249 CALPSAFltSkeds: PMCO 752 conversion to Economy Plus Add 752 #0113 (LAX) and #0138 (MCO) to the completed list. B752 (12/41) [16/159 becomes 16/45/108] LAX 0104-0106 [
250 Ford3motor: PMUA paint update... B777 (3-class) 793UA (gg) entered AMA 12/16. 796UA (gg) scheduled to enter VCV 12/23. B767 (2-class) 666UA exited FTW 12/16. 676U
251 Sulley: Does this mean there will be no more battleship mainline a/c?
252 CALPSAFltSkeds: From the above thread: since it was stated there were 3 remaining 763s, two have been painted (671 & 666) since it was stated there were 6 remain
253 FriendlySkies: When is the last time a PMCO aircraft was painted? Any word on when they will be finished?
254 Sulley: I need to stop posting from my phone - I miss too much!
256 Ford3motor: Close to what I have, but I could be mistaken. 1 remaining (2-class) 767. 3 remaining (3-class) 777s after 796 goes in.
257 DC8FanJet: Need someone to update this, I know 775 & 780 are completed.
258 LipeGIG: This become too long. Please continue discussion on the continuation of this one (part 8) Link: United/Continental Existing Fleet Upgrade Status 8 (by
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