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24HR ATC Strike,Greece, 5TH October  
User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3258 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2982 times:

Quick heads up, the Greeks controllers are striking again, for longer this time. No word yet if management are working or not.
BA has cancelled the following.

Wednesday 5 October
BA631 ATH-LHR
BA638 LHR-ATH
BA639 ATH-LHR
BA640 LHR-ATH
BA641 ATH-LHR
BA632 LHR-ATH
BA633 ATH-LHR

Strike runs from 00:01 - 23:59.  


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User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13110 posts, RR: 100
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2959 times:
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Quoting readytotaxi (Thread starter):
Quick heads up, the Greeks controllers are striking again, for longer this time.

Why? Greece is broke. An ATC strike will just increase the pain for everyone. I understand the controllers are upset... But the pay rates I've seen show they are over-compensated.

Everyone else is broke. The era of Greece being subsidized is over. That means painful deflation for Greece government workers. : ( I'm not happy about it. But why bother striking. It won't change anything and could make it worse.

I assume military ATC will ensure over-flights will continue as with some previous Greek ATC strikes? (Note: I'm asking.)

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26972 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2959 times:

Quoting readytotaxi (Thread starter):
Quick heads up, the Greeks controllers are striking again, for longer this time. No word yet if management are working or not.

Its a weekly event now LOL...

I got caught up in it recently :

Lufthansa Business -ATC Strike+New Senator Lounge. (by OA260 Oct 4 2011 in Trip Reports)

Also lots of Swiss flights affected :

04.10.2011 Zurich Athens LX1842 cancelled
04.10.2011 Geneva Athens LX1824 cancelled
04.10.2011 Zurich Saloniki LX1850 cancelled
05.10.2011 Athens Zurich LX1843 cancelled
05.10.2011 Athens Geneva LX1825 cancelled
05.10.2011 Saloniki Zurich LX1851 cancelled
05.10.2011 Geneva Athens LX1822 cancelled
05.10.2011 Athens Geneva LX1823 cancelled
05.10.2011 Zurich Athens LX1830 cancelled
05.10.2011 Athens Zurich LX1831 cancelled
05.10.2011 Zurich Athens LX1838 cancelled
05.10.2011 Athens Zurich LX1839 cancelled
05.10.2011 Zurich Athens LX1842 delayed
05.10.2011 Geneva Athens LX1824 delayed
05.10.2011 Zurich Saloniki LX1850 delayed

http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/various/...king_news/Pages/breaking_news.aspx


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4434 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2940 times:

TK also cancelled ATH and SKG flights from IST;
http://www.turkishairlines.com/tr-TR...ve-selanik-seferlerinde-iptal.aspx


User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2921 times:

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 1):
Why? Greece is broke. An ATC strike will just increase the pain for everyone.

Yes, everyone realises that... except for the people involved. The airlines should be able to offload the costs caused by the strike to Greek ATC, this is so ridiculous, it's getting worse than Spain.

And I'm flying to LCA tomorrow, awesome! Looking forward to an hours late slot in Turkish airspace.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26972 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2897 times:

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 4):
The airlines should be able to offload the costs caused by the strike to Greek ATC,

Id sack them without rights to state pensions and really crucify them . They are greedy scum . The Teachers and basic wage earners really are feeling the pinch and many other civil servants. These are the last on the list of having any sympathy. Strikes by ATC should be made illegal and jail them for breaking the law. It should be like the Army and Police. That applies to all countries ATC not just Greece. France/Spain etc...


User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2866 times:

I am visiting Greece this week and am to fly out of Athens tomorrow. I booked the Air China A332 from ATH-MUC specifically to get on a unique bird (at least for me in North America).

No on in town is shocked at the strike, but it is causing lots of trouble. Fun times.



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User currently offlineTS-IOR From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3481 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2836 times:

According to Eurocontrol, the strike is starting today 2100 UTC. With the Libyan airspace also closed, it will look like a barrier right in the middle of the Mediterranean.

User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4434 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2819 times:

Quoting TS-IOR (Reply 7):
With the Libyan airspace also closed,

Are you sure, TK is flying both to Benghazi and Mittiga.


User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7906 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2797 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 5):
Id sack them without rights to state pensions and really crucify them


How does Ronald Reagan Athens International Airport sound to everyone?   



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User currently offlineTS-IOR From Tunisia, joined Oct 2001, 3481 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2783 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 8):

Tunisair and Libyan Airlines resumed flying as well but it's still under NATO control and thus up to now airlines are still avoiding overflying Tripoli FIR  


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26972 posts, RR: 57
Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2765 times:

Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 6):
I booked the Air China A332 from ATH-MUC specifically to get on a unique bird (at least for me in North America).

Arr thats a shame I did the CDG-ATH on CA and it was a fab experience. Is it cancelled for sure? Or re timed ?

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 9):
How does Ronald Reagan Athens International Airport sound to everyone?   

LOL... Margaret Thatcher International !! She knew how to deal with Unions thats for sure  


User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7602 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2723 times:

Is Athens predominantly a business or leisure destinaion this time of year.

Perhaps our leaders will not be able to deliver the "bail out" cheque.

"Sorry, we can't deliver it as our flight was cancelled"  


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26972 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2711 times:

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 12):
Is Athens predominantly a business or leisure destinaion this time of year.

Both really although the bulk of Tourists are gone as the height of the season is June/July August and September. When I flew back at the end of September it was mostly Greeks and Ex Pats with Business traffic.

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 12):
"Sorry, we can't deliver it as our flight was cancelled"  

Then ATC might thank you for it and they would have won in their eyes   They are striking against cuts implemented under the terms of the bail out.


User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7602 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2697 times:

Problem is that no bail out and no austerity, then how soon before the government runs out of cash to pay it's bills.

User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13110 posts, RR: 100
Reply 15, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2673 times:
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Quoting OA260 (Reply 2):
Its a weekly event now LOL...

  
I prefer Margarita Tuesdays.   

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 9):
How does Ronald Reagan Athens International Airport sound to everyone?

  

Some logic there...   

Quoting OA260 (Reply 11):
LOL... Margaret Thatcher International !! She knew how to deal with Unions thats for sure

Reagan was famous for firing the striking ATC.

Lightsaber



Societies that achieve a critical mass of ideas achieve self sustaining growth; others stagnate.
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26972 posts, RR: 57
Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2633 times:

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 14):
Problem is that no bail out and no austerity, then how soon before the government runs out of cash to pay it's bills.

Indeed just shows you how stupid they are.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 15):
I prefer Margarita Tuesdays.   

LOL...

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 15):
Reagan was famous for firing the striking ATC.

Arr ok learn something new everyday  


User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2294 times:

All flights were cancelled EXCEPT for ONE FLIGHT on air china. (ATH-MUC-PEK)

Guess what airline I was booked on!  


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airport was basically empty, no cars, not lines, not much staff.
We loaded up and got out in the middle of the strike !

I am in Munich until tomorrow, then back to PDX. It was amazing luck and my trip saved due to sheer luck!
I#ll post some pictures of the boarding areas etc without anyone in them but 250 or so lucky pax heading to munich  



They're not handing trophies out today
User currently offlineA342 From Germany, joined Jul 2005, 4682 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2270 times:

Well, I hope they won't strike again this Sunday (scheduled to fly MUC-SKG-HER on A3) and Saturday next week (HER-ATH-CDG-MUC on A3 and LH)...


Exceptions confirm the rule.
User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4434 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2224 times:

I was looking at flightradar after the strike and spotted a TK A332 doing the short hop, ATH-IST, probably bringing back some stranded pax.

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26972 posts, RR: 57
Reply 20, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 2163 times:

Quoting BlatantEcho (Reply 17):
All flights were cancelled EXCEPT for ONE FLIGHT on air china. (ATH-MUC-PEK)

Guess what airline I was booked on!  

Haha thats great well done !! I guess the Greeks dont want to mess with the Chinese LOL.. All that investment they are putting in  
Quoting TK787 (Reply 19):
I was looking at flightradar after the strike and spotted a TK A332 doing the short hop, ATH-IST, probably bringing back some stranded pax.

Again every cloud has a silver lining what a nice AC to get on such a route.


User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7906 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2114 times:

So, jokes aside, what is the issue over? I know they are protesting cuts, but surely there has to be something more. I know they aren't dumb and can see the state of the world economy and especially Greece's, is there something I'm not getting?


Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
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