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User currently offlineJosephJarvis From UK - England, joined Apr 2011, 158 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7991 times:

Hi everyone,

Nowadays, US Airways only serves Charlotte from LGW. I have been looking at old records and it seems that in the early 2000s US Airways served Charlotte, Philadelphia and Pittsburgh from LGW, on a mixture of 767-200s and
A330-300s.

In August 2002, it even says US Airways had 4 daily flights from LGW. PHL x 2 daily, CLT x 1 daily and PIT x 1 daily, with sometimes up to 3 A330-300s at LGW at the same time. My question is, was this the case, as 4 flights per day is quite alot, considering they do not have a big number of long haul aircraft?

I am curious to know if anyone has any information regarding these flights such as departure/arrival times and flight numbers?

Thank you for your time.

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User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4058 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7853 times:

I don't know any of the details about times and numbers, but this was back before US had started service to the majority of what are now its European destinations, let alone to South America, so the number of widebodies, although fewer than what they now have, was more concentrated among fewer destinations.

User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3203 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 7802 times:

They also started BWI-LGW in May 1992 with 762s. Route authority for this service was acquired from TWA

http://www.usairways.com/en-US/about.../pressroom/history/chronology.html



FLYi
User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9367 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7677 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 2):

an interesting read. Charlotte to London Gatwick service came with Piedmont's acquisition, yet their 1999 timeline says they started Charlotte to London Gatwick. when did it drop?



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User currently offlineplanenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7470 times:

AFAIK, the 1x daily PIT-LGW was actually operated by BA using a 767 in US colors but with a BA cabin crew. This is when BA had a significant stake in US

User currently offlineFedExFlyerPHL From United States of America, joined May 2008, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7430 times:

Quoting planenutz (Reply 4):
AFAIK, the 1x daily PIT-LGW was actually operated by BA using a 767 in US colors but with a BA cabin crew. This is when BA had a significant stake in US

I thought it was a US plane in BA colors and crew.

Jeff



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User currently offlinePITrules From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 3203 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 7394 times:

Quoting stlgph (Reply 3):
Charlotte to London Gatwick service came with Piedmont's acquisition, yet their 1999 timeline says they started Charlotte to London Gatwick. when did it drop?

BA picked up the original Piedmont/USAir service using the US Airways 762s. When that arrangement ended, US Airways started their own CLT-LGW service in competition with BA in 1999

Quoting planenutz (Reply 4):
AFAIK, the 1x daily PIT-LGW was actually operated by BA using a 767 in US colors but with a BA cabin crew. This is when BA had a significant stake in US

After BA pulled out of PIT, US started their own PIT-LGW route with A-333s



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User currently offlineplanesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 7316 times:

Quoting planenutz (Reply 4):
AFAIK, the 1x daily PIT-LGW was actually operated by BA using a 767 in US colors but with a BA cabin crew. This is when BA had a significant stake in US

Definately operated on US metal as I flew PIT-LGW on an A333. Flew LGW-PHL two weeks prior on a 762.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26495 posts, RR: 75
Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7056 times:

Quoting JosephJarvis (Thread starter):
My question is, was this the case, as 4 flights per day is quite alot, considering they do not have a big number of long haul aircraft?

It wasn't quite a lot. It was 2x from their biggest hub and 1x from their other 2. Remember that they were not one of the Bermuda 2 carriers, so they had to go to LGW.



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User currently offlineTravelsUK From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6852 times:

I flew a with BA from LGW - CLT in April 1996, it was a US Airways plane, 762, but in BA colours, cabin crew were from US but wore BA uniforms, in flight magazines were from both BA & US, if memory serves me correct the economy cabin used standard BA seats but the C cabin appeared to be the US business class seat. The flight I seem to remember departed LGW around midday.

Interetsingly when I returned from CLT in late September of that year the flight was operated by BA using a 763.


User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9367 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6676 times:

Quoting PITrules (Reply 6):
BA picked up the original Piedmont/USAir service using the US Airways 762s. When that arrangement ended, US Airways started their own CLT-LGW service in competition with BA in 1999

that's right ... the whole codeshare agreement.
i remember all that now. thanks for jogging my memory.



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User currently offlinewillbdsp From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6644 times:

I flew PIT-LGW in November 2001. It was on the A330...flight 740. It's routing was SFO-PIT-LGW.

User currently offlinegilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3024 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6329 times:

In the early 2000's there were definitely at least four daily flights from LGW with all three routes to PHL, PIT and CLT operating with an A330-300.... This was all after the BA agreement had ended.

There was a second daily PHL service for a couple of years operated with a 767-200 and this then became a summer only service... I am sure PIT also had a second daily service in summers with a 767-200, I am happy to be corrected.

So there could possibly have been up to five flights a day.

I remember when the A330-300 were first launched in the fleet, there was a lot of excitement and probably offered the best ride across the Atlantic at the time in economy, with 34inch seat pitch and one of very few carriers back then offer PTV's with AVOD.

Ohhh how times have changed!  


User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4599 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5575 times:

Quoting planenutz (Reply 4):

AFAIK, the 1x daily PIT-LGW was actually operated by BA using a 767 in US colors but with a BA cabin crew. This is when BA had a significant stake in US

Yeah FedExFlyer has it right, you just have it backwrads.   US metal in BA colors. BA owned 24% of USAir at the time.

Here is the commercial about the arrangement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7KCL5wh8T0


User currently offlineluckyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 2172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5544 times:

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 13):
Yeah FedExFlyer has it right, you just have it backwrads.   US metal in BA colors. BA owned 24% of USAir at the time.

There are several pictures of it in the database. Just search British Airways and 767-200. Having done that I see the aircraft in Miami, SFO, and LAX as well at Gatwick. Did these aircraft do domestic turns for US or were they operating for BA on these routes?


User currently offlineFalcon Flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1326 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5506 times:

Quoting luckyone (Reply 14):
Having done that I see the aircraft in Miami, SFO, and LAX as well at Gatwick. Did these aircraft do domestic turns for US or were they operating for BA on these routes?

Domestic rotations. MIA saw the -200 often.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26495 posts, RR: 75
Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5292 times:

Quoting luckyone (Reply 14):
Did these aircraft do domestic turns for US or were they operating for BA on these routes?
Quoting Falcon Flyer (Reply 15):
Domestic rotations. MIA saw the -200 often.

Not only domestic turns, but the US flight that flew LAX-PIT-FRA was a through flight with the same 762.



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User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2758 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5081 times:

LGW seems to be falling out of favor with U.S. destinations. The only n/s destinations besides CLT that they have in the U.S. that I can see now are DL to ATL, BA and VS to MCO, both TCX and TOM to SFB, BA to TPA, and VS to LAS. That's only six airports.

Not being served are both EWR and JFK in the NYC area, along with BOS, IAD, and ORD as major airports in the U.S. that currently have no n/s service, that easily should be able to sustain decent service. Take your pick of other airports that might also have decent service here (MIA, LAX, SFO, etc.)

Everyone wants to fly to LHR.


User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4895 times:

Quoting point2point (Reply 17):
LGW seems to be falling out of favor with U.S. destinations. The only n/s destinations besides CLT that they have in the U.S. that I can see now are DL to ATL, BA and VS to MCO, both TCX and TOM to SFB, BA to TPA, and VS to LAS. That's only six airports.

Not being served are both EWR and JFK in the NYC area, along with BOS, IAD, and ORD as major airports in the U.S. that currently have no n/s service, that easily should be able to sustain decent service. Take your pick of other airports that might also have decent service here (MIA, LAX, SFO, etc.)

Everyone wants to fly to LHR.

I would love to have more US routes back!!! LGW is so much easier getting to than LHR.



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26495 posts, RR: 75
Reply 19, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4796 times:

Quoting point2point (Reply 17):
Take your pick of other airports that might also have decent service here (MIA, LAX, SFO, etc.)

LAX/MIA/SFO were Bermuda 2 gateways, so it was always unlikely to see LGW flights from there.



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User currently offlinegilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3024 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4697 times:

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 13):
Quoting planenutz (Reply 4):

AFAIK, the 1x daily PIT-LGW was actually operated by BA using a 767 in US colors but with a BA cabin crew. This is when BA had a significant stake in US

Yeah FedExFlyer has it right, you just have it backwrads. US metal in BA colors. BA owned 24% of USAir at the time.

Here is the commercial about the arrangement: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7KCL...wh8T0

Correct, but US Airways did operate the route in their own right from 2000-2004...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pittsburgh_International_Airport


User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2758 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4636 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 19):
LAX/MIA/SFO were Bermuda 2 gateways, so it was always unlikely to see LGW flights from there.

Okay, but could service be started from these airports (or any other U.S. airport) today to LGW without a tonload of restrictions (slots, $$$, treaties etc.) like there are at LHR?

I would think it a lot easier for any U.S. airport today to begin n/s service to LGW than LHR.


User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4188 times:

Quoting TravelsUK (Reply 9):
Interetsingly when I returned from CLT in late September of that year the flight was operated by BA using a 763

Around 1996/7, the BA/US stopped sharing aircraft. BA began it's own service to CLT during this time. When the codeshare agreement ended in 1999, BA began flying a 777 on CLT-LGW. After 9/11, BA stopped flying CLT-LGW nonstop, and changed the routing to CLT-BWI-LHR with a 763. CLT was dropped in 2002.



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User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4599 posts, RR: 22
Reply 23, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3756 times:

Quoting gilesdavies (Reply 20):
Correct, but US Airways did operate the route in their own right from 2000-2004...

That they did. They also, if I remember right, lost their LGW slots to BA during the partnership so had to reapply for slots once it was dead.


User currently offlineairlittoralguy From France, joined Nov 2005, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3231 times:

Does anyone have the schedule for the former US air BWI-LGW service ? As well as the second daily PIT-LGW ? Thanks for your help.


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25 airlittoralguy : Nobody for the schedule of the former Us Air PIT and BWI flights from LGW ? Also did they ever fly from Boston to LGW ?
26 MSYPI7185 : For a short time US did fly BOS-LGW with 762. IIRC it was the aircraft that was used on the BWI-LGW flight. Memory is kind of rusty on this, I'm not
27 skipness1E : Am I correct in thinking that the only US markets BA left and have not returned to in recent years are PIT, CLT and DTW?
28 BA0197 : This is correct, although, I am quite sure BA could return to these destinations with a 763 from LHR with a near weakly frequency. They seem large en
29 wn676 : I thought the only transatlantic flight they had out of BOS was FRA.
30 PITrules : PIT-LGW was never 2x daily
31 USAirALB : DTW and CLT could both support BA service, probably on a 5x weekly schedule. I'm skeptical on PIT because the route would probably need to rely on O/
32 gilesdavies : Very Optimistic! PIT is struggling to maintain a summer only service to CDG (going by the reports on here) and this is only operated by a 757 with a
33 USAirALB : I do think BA could suceed in the market, BA would just have to tinker at the schedule a little. I'm pretty sure O/D traffic flight CLT-LON would rat
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