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Which Airlines Do You Think Will Come To LGW Next?  
User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6054 times:

This year we have had Air Asia, Vietnam, Lufthansa and now Korean who announced they will be coming to LGW. I was wondering if anyone knew or could take a guess in to who is likely to be next at Gatwick... Isn't Garuda considering coming back?

[Edited 2011-10-09 18:28:01]


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User currently offlinemdavies06 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2009, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5869 times:

Wasn't AR looking to add London? If they still are then I'd guess they would also consider LGW along with LHR. As Skyteam is the weakest of the three major alliances I can see AR considering LGW along with VN and KE. As you say, GA may also consider LGW as well although as a Skyteam member I can see them adding CDG first before London. With CDG and AMS they have the UK pretty much covered at a basic (non-metal kind of) level.

User currently offlineSumma767 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2520 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5697 times:

Avianca requested daily slots for LGW for this Winter, to operate the route LGW-BOG (arrival 1 pm, departure 3 pm) only to cancel them soon afterwards.
Even though they would prefer LHR, it is still likely that they might come to LGW. If so, it would most likely be in Q1 2012, as AV take delivery of their 8th A330 in January. Service is unlikely to start at daily, though.


User currently offlinejet72uk From UK - England, joined Oct 2011, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5397 times:

Hopefully not AA. Awful airline, staff and service. Would like to see UA or CO.

User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 5355 times:

Air India wouldn't be a bad one. They used to drop into LGW as often as possible in the 80s to avoid the higher fees of LHR.

I believe they are having a hard time right now so maybe this could be one cost saving measure.

Maybe they could re-paint their aircraft in the old livery too. Would be much better than their current livery, IMO.


User currently offlinejet72uk From UK - England, joined Oct 2011, 102 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5210 times:

Wouldn't want Air India or PIA, or Bangladesh Biman for that matter! Glad Air Nigeria have postponed too.

User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 5032 times:

Well thanks for all your ideas and info.!   Lets all hope the best for LGW!


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User currently offlineadriaticflight From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 514 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4944 times:

Quoting jet72uk (Reply 5):
Wouldn't want Air India or PIA, or Bangladesh Biman for that matter! Glad Air Nigeria have postponed too.

Why wouldn;t you want them?


User currently offlinerichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3744 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4784 times:

I'd like to see Vueling routes from BCN and MAD.

User currently offlineAPYu From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 819 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4738 times:

That Hong Kong one in the premium config, operating from the north terminal


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User currently offlineblueshamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2785 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4719 times:

Quoting jet72uk (Reply 5):

Wouldn't want Air India or PIA, or Bangladesh Biman for that matter! Glad Air Nigeria have postponed too.

Why single out those 3 carriers? It suggests rascist overtones with regard to that part of the world on your behalf.

Why would you not want Air India, PIA or Biman?

All operate modern B777 family fleets.

None have recent history for non-payment of fees.

So what's your issue with these three?

Just curious...

Rgds



So I drive a 4x4. So what?! Tax the a$$ off me for it...oh, you already have... :-(
User currently offlinenonimaus From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2011, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4620 times:

Quoting jet72uk (Reply 5):
Wouldn't want Air India or PIA, or Bangladesh Biman for that matter! Glad Air Nigeria have postponed too.

Why not? As long as they pay what they owe, why shouldn't they serve the airport given the potential for VFR traffic for all four airlines in south east London?


User currently offlineFlyingHollander From Netherlands, joined Jul 2011, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4518 times:

How likely is it that LHR will become oneworld only one day and that LGW will handle the rest?

Quoting mdavies06 (Reply 1):
As Skyteam is the weakest of the three major alliances

I assume you mean in London?



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User currently offlinemdavies06 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2009, 374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4214 times:

Quoting FlyingHollander (Reply 12):
I assume you mean in London?

Yes sorry I only meant LHR.


User currently offlinebmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1784 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4095 times:

Not the greatest source, but Wikipedia has Afriqiyah as returning to London Gatwick at the end of October...

User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3923 times:

Quoting bmibaby737 (Reply 16):
Not the greatest source, but Wikipedia has Afriqiyah as returning to London Gatwick at the end of October...

Wiki is most of the time right, I would like to see them return again.



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User currently offlineeljonno From Australia, joined Sep 2008, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3903 times:

I would love to see this happening, it might merely be personal bias but I have always preferred LGW over LHR anyway and from a passenger perspective it is a much more pleasant experience then terminals 1,3 and 4 at LHR (T5 is admittedly very impressive though) - especially with all the recent investment in facilities. I have never completely understood how on earth the airlines don't see it that way and still insist that passengers want to fly to LHR.

Regarding the second runway though: I was under the impression that GIP had stated their intention was to continue operating and plan growth at Gatwick as a single runway facility for the medium to long term future.

[Edited 2011-10-17 08:25:55 by SA7700]

User currently offlineflythere From Hong Kong, joined May 2010, 396 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3683 times:

Likely 2 daily services by Hong Kong Airlines with all-premium configured A332.

User currently offlinetkfan From Turkey, joined Oct 2007, 650 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3335 times:

Turkish Airlines might start flights to LGW in 2011, when a/c available

http://www.turkishairlines.com/en-IN...vestor_relations/special/2011.aspx


User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1618 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 3024 times:

I think LGW needs to place more emphasis on being an alternative to LHR, instead of an LCC hub. Comparable to EWR.

Gatwick has a lot to offer in terms of getting there:

- Although outside London, it has excellent road links. M23 and M25 nearby.

- The train links are excellent from Victoria and London Bridge as well as Thameslink trains from Bedford, St Pancras and Blackfriars. Also if you take a Southern Train, it will only take about 5-10 minutes longer and costs much less than the Gatwick Express (and Heathrow Express if we are comparing LHR).

I wonder if TG would ever considering starting a service to LGW for VFR traffic with maybe a LGW-HKT or LGW-BKK-HKT route using a 772. I guess there could be opportunities to tie up with Virgin Holidays on this as currently they use other airlines to Thailand.

This might sound a bit outlandish but is there any way Jetstar would consider starting up on the Kangaroo route... Maybe SYD/MEL - SIN/BKK - LGW. Definitely doable with an A330-200. Only problem here is that it may step on Qantas' shoes somewhat but with QF reducing capacity between the UK and OZ some of the VFR stuff could be replaced with Jetstar metal.

India could be a good market for LGW as well... I know that Jet Airways has its European base in Brussels but with the right persuasion, could be persuaded to move this to LGW. This would attracted a lot of local traffic due to the large Indian commuties in the London area and would then offer some direct routes through to New York at cheap prices!



Next Flights: LHR-LBA (319-SK), MAN-ARN (736-SK), ARN-LHR (763-BA), LHR-CPH (CR9-SK), CPH-LHR (320-SK), LHR-IAH (744-BA)
User currently onlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3073 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2882 times:

Quoting FlyingHollander (Reply 12):
How likely is it that LHR will become oneworld only one day and that LGW will handle the rest?

Incredibly far fetched given that T4 was rebuilt for SkyTeam and T2 is being built exclusively for STAR. LGW and LHR are apples and pears.


User currently offlinehal9213 From Germany, joined May 2009, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2821 times:

Quoting eljonno (Reply 16):
I have never completely understood how on earth the airlines don't see it that way and still insist that passengers want to fly to LHR.

I respect your preference, but there are many many people like me, who think LGW is the absolute hellhole airport in London. My favorite ranking is LCY, LTN, LHR, STN, LGW.
LGW has ultralong walking distances (well, depending on the gate, but how about proper walkways?), the facilities are ancient, and the queue at immigration was always horrbily long. LHR has the benefit of the much cheaper Picadilly line taking the same time (45min to central, same as from LGW, unless you explicity want to go to Victoria or London Bridge =30min).
LGW seriously needs to upgrade their airport facilities and customer experience to keep up with legacy airport standards. But I assume, thats what they are actually doing now. Otherwise, it will stay the secondary cost-cutting option.


User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1618 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2786 times:

Quoting hal9213 (Reply 21):
LGW seriously needs to upgrade their airport facilities and customer experience to keep up with legacy airport standards. But I assume, thats what they are actually doing now. Otherwise, it will stay the secondary cost-cutting option.

The new owners have spent hundreds of millions of pounds so far upgrading facilities... So far:

- New immigration hall at South Terminal with innovative ticket control methods and many more lanes.
- New terminal expansion at North Terminal with a new check in area for British Airways and a new terminal facade.
- New signage throughout the airport.
- Refurbished transit train from North to South Terminal.
- Construction has begun on a new expansion to the South Terminal including replacing the old domestic pier and building a new facade.
- New bagage systems being installed across the airport.
- New glass jetbridges being installed to replace older models.

Give it another year or two and it will be a topnotch airport. Now all they need to do is build that second runway...



Next Flights: LHR-LBA (319-SK), MAN-ARN (736-SK), ARN-LHR (763-BA), LHR-CPH (CR9-SK), CPH-LHR (320-SK), LHR-IAH (744-BA)
User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7204 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2771 times:

One point that no one mentions about LGW.

If you are coming from West, you can get a train straight through from Reading, (almost to the door).


User currently offlinestaralliance85 From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 201 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 2744 times:

I would like to see LGW at the pre-Open Skies Agreement capacity again. Hopefully, UA might operate a EWR-LGW and DL JFK-LGW (already has ATL-LGW). But I think that will be in a few years when the economy picks up. I see AR and GA going to LGW, but not before AMS and CDG where their major Skyteam partner hubs are. AMS and CDG can offer them excellent connections throughout Europe.


brad Fitzpatrick
25 skipness1E : Both these routes were closed in recent years and moved to Heathrow. Every route LHR-ABC vs LGW-ABC "apparently" yields more out of LHR on the North
26 Pe@rson : Per ATI today, "Turkish Airlines will begin flights to four new destinations including London Gatwick cover the coming months."
27 Post contains links richardw : According to http://www.gatwickairport.com/flights/ U2 are moving all UK flights to the North Terminal, so should be some spare gates in the South ter
28 LGWflyer : Alright, good to hear! Wasn't expecting that, I thought there would have been more space at the South rather than the North...
29 skipness1E : It was anounced a while back, it's GLA, ABZ and INV to join BFS and EDI which have the use of Stands 57L and 57R / Gates 55H and 55J in the domestic l
30 richardw : Yes, I re-read the Gatwick airport website notice, UK domestic would have been clearer.
31 fcogafa : I think all this back patting for LGW's new flights needs to be balanced with the number of impending withdrawls/reductions of routes by NAX, SAS, EZY
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