someone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 2780 posts, RR: 1 Posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 15403 times:
SAS har announced 21 new routes today. It's quite clear that most of these are seasonal, but not sure about the frequencies yet. Also guessing that the routes starting in March maybe more seasonal, than those in June, which I gues only runs during the summer holiday?
Copenhagen:
Kalingrad (from March 25.)
Katowice (from March 26.)
Malaga (from March 30.)
Split (from July 1.)
Dubrovnik (from July 4.)
Stockholm:
Reykjavik (from June 22.)
Alicante (from June 26.)
Barcelona (from March 25.)
Malaga (from March 31.)
Dubrovnik (from March 25.)
Oslo:
Antalya: (From May 12.)
Faro: (From June 26)
Bergen:
Manchester (from Jan 26.)
Malaga (from June 23)
Split (from June 25)
Barcelona (from June 28.)
Palma (from June 29.)
Stavanger:
Nice (from June 24.)
Split (from June 25.)
Barcelona (from June 28.)
Palma (from june 29.)
CRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2080 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 14980 times:
Looks like they are going head-to-head with Norwegian's routes. DBV,PMI,BCN and SPU are extremely popular from Scandinavia, så they'll have good loads, for sure.
Arn777 From Sweden, joined Jul 2010, 165 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 14641 times:
Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 1): Looks like they are going head-to-head with Norwegian's routes.
Of course they are. SAS are not proactive but reactive. A lot of the routes launched, especially in Norway, are launched as an result of what Norwegian are doing. Very sad, but true..
brissedk From Denmark, joined Nov 2007, 383 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 14424 times:
Still no CPH-KEF
Happy to see SK expand. Clearly they want to send a message to DY with at least some of these routes. Will be interesting to see who comes out on top.
I wonder is SKs costbase really has come down to a level where they can compete with DY. Or possibly DYs costbase has increased slightly with their cabin crew becoming more senior. Anyone who might have a clue?
Cheers,
BJ
Frequent flyer based in CPH - mostly heading to: OSL, HEL, KEF, FAE and EWR
eastern023 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 803 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 12793 times:
None long hauls. I was hoping to see GRU (even with the slot restriction or EZE.
Well there are already 5-6 flights a day operated with 3 757-200´s and 1 757-300 as well as 737-700´s so there´s quite a bit of competition. But nonetheless I agree with you.
I'm disappointed not to see DUB - Bergen. Given how popular the DUB-OSL route has become over the last 3 years, with 3 carriers now operating up to 4 daily flights, And with Bergen and Stavanger seeming popular connections.
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Navigator From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 1032 posts, RR: 16 Reply 12, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10062 times:
Quoting Arn777 (Reply 2): Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 1):
Looks like they are going head-to-head with Norwegian's routes.
Of course they are. SAS are not proactive but reactive. A lot of the routes launched, especially in Norway, are launched as an result of what Norwegian are doing. Very sad, but true..
I agree with you. And another thing is that Arlanda - Malaga and Barcelona routes are not new for SAS but rather routes that have been served by SAS before and now resumed.
anthonya330 From Gibraltar, joined Sep 2009, 8 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 9299 times:
I just hope at some stage that SK will introduce a 3x weekly service from GIB to one of their focus airports.. Would be good for Gibraltar, and also good for the Scandinavian population as a cheaper and faster alternative to AGP. Now the new terminal at GIB is almost completed, it should be good at tempting new airlines to operate, albeit seasonal!
SASDC8 From Norway, joined Mar 2006, 663 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8750 times:
Quoting someone83 (Thread starter): SAS har announced 21 new routes today. It's quite clear that most of these are seasonal, but not sure about the frequencies yet.
Good news and most sertantly seasonal routes with low weekly frequencies. Nice to see that SVG and BGO get some new SK destinations. Now if only BOO could get a CPH flight
CRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2080 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8295 times:
Quoting SASDC8 (Reply 16): Now if only BOO could get a CPH flight
Norwegian is constantly trying out new routes, so why can't SAS start CPH-BOO and CPH-TOS with CRJ900 and upgrade to A319 or B735/6 if demand is there?
I agree. Even though I only flew it once a year, it beats the hell out of transferring at IAD or EWR
Will they require additional Aircraft to cover these routes? If I understand correctly, 2012 will not be the year where the SK fleet will increase (retirements will even out any new additions).
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flybynight From Norway, joined Jul 2003, 992 posts, RR: 3 Reply 20, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7671 times:
Quoting CPHFF (Reply 19): I agree. Even though I only flew it once a year, it beats the hell out of transferring at IAD or EWR
Will they require additional Aircraft to cover these routes? If I understand correctly, 2012 will not be the year where the SK fleet will increase (retirements will even out any new additions).
I'm amazed that SK doesn't have a West Coast North America flight. I believe SEA was their oldest long distance route dating back to 1967 (as old as me actually!!).
A lot of people have switched to Icelandaire which has a great connection to Europe.
david_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7145 posts, RR: 14 Reply 22, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks ago) and read 6837 times:
Funnily enough MAN has had SK flights to BGO available for all to see for months when you look at the MAN online timetable. Weekly charters starting December running through to April.
okobjorn From Denmark, joined Jun 2011, 32 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks ago) and read 6721 times:
Quoting flybynight (Reply 20): I'm amazed that SK doesn't have a West Coast North America flight. I believe SEA was their oldest long distance route dating back to 1967 (as old as me actually!!).
A lot of people have switched to Icelandaire which has a great connection to Europe.
IIRC the SEA flight was only profitable due to a cargo contract. When SK lost that contract the flight was not profitable anymore.
deltamartin From Sweden, joined Dec 2010, 1059 posts, RR: 9 Reply 24, posted (1 year 7 months 2 weeks ago) and read 6688 times:
Quoting okobjorn (Reply 23):
IIRC the SEA flight was only profitable due to a cargo contract. When SK lost that contract the flight was not profitable anymore.
Well, wasn't the A340 a bit big of a plane for the route also? I believe it was more profitable with the 767.
25 LuftyMatt: These new flights are no charters, they're a new scheduled operation.
26 AA767LOVER: With Finnair making strong presence in Asia, why doesn't SK try to return to HKG with a A330-300? Could work.
27 flybynight: I have heard that as well, but that A340 was almost always full. CPH was a great connecting airport to Europe and very popular with employees from Mi
28 Checo77: Damn, no PRG again Any chance of seeing SAS birds in PRG again someday? Adam
29 AussieItaliano: I'm sure they ran the numbers with the A333 before deciding to cancel the route. They probably also considered reducing frequency. Considering the hi
30 ju068: I am suprised that they have not launched Skopje flights from Copenhagen. It ranks as one of the most popular unserved destination. There are roughly
31 g2scandinavia: Hi ju068 The correct number is 32,5 passengers pr "fflight", on an average day. Underserved destinations are always presented with outbound/inbound t
32 ju068: Thanks. Well they could still launch a two weekly service, after all they would not face any competition of the route.
33 someone83: The problem is the distance. BOO and TOS are to far north, meaning extra flying time and more cost. And more aircrafts needed That wasnsn't expected
34 someone83: Skopje is well served with OS via VIE
35 Kyrone: SEA hadn't been performing well for years. However, one of the final nails in the coffin for that service was when Lufthansa opened up at SEA. I beli
36 Navigator: I do not agree with your analysis here. SAS ran with high load factors all the time. I think SAS own high administration costs and lack of efficiency
37 Kyrone: High cost and lack of efficiency definitely played significant roles in the ending of this route. However, the starting of the routes by AF and LH di
38 Kyrone: I agree with this statement. The passenger base out of OSL and ARN can support longhaul expansion. More asian traffic funneled through ARN could take
39 Navigator: SAS had a very high load factor all the time so it had its market. LH and AF typically do not compete directly in the scandinavian market if there is
40 SASMD82: Hi! I was about to book a flight AMS-CPH-AMS for next February and I saw the afternoon flight being operated by a MD-87. This is definitely stunning b
41 Navigator: Yes maybe but then again SAS is mostly an option to Scandinavia nowadays. If you want to go to central Europe you do not fly SAS. You did that once w
42 LN-KGL: They have always had some MD87s (currently SE-DIB, SE-DIP and OY-KHU) and now they are only based at CPH.
43 LuftyMatt: I agree they should return to HKG. I seem to remember the (public) reason SK gave for pulling out of HKG was high landing fees. I'm sure they could m
44 sas767: Weekly frequencies for the five new routes out Copenhagen announced here: http://cphtraveller.dk/nyheder/sas-e...er-med-fem-nye-ruter-fra-kobenhavn Ka
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