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EK To Send 5 A380s Daily To LHR, Rumor  
User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1164 posts, RR: 1
Posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 18288 times:

Recently there is a strong rumors here in Dubai that EK will make all 5 daily flights to LHR an A380 ride early next year. BAA approved two additional flights ( in addition to the current 2 daily) which will bring it to 4 A380 flights a day to LHR, according to the rumor.
If all of this was true, how can Emirates fill 2445 seats every day.

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User currently offlineshankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1547 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 18103 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Thread starter):
If all of this was true, how can Emirates fill 2445 seats every day

Because people like me keep flying with them due to their excellent connections cracking fares and A380 rides



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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 3020 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 18078 times:

They probably can -- though I'd expect to see them bringing A380s to a few more cities before piling capacity to LHR. There are plenty of frames coming to bring LHR up to 5 A380s.

User currently offlineeaa3 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 18037 times:

Are Emirates worried about not being able to fly the A380's to India. Did their business plan call for this.

User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1164 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 17981 times:

Quoting eaa3 (Reply 3):
Are Emirates worried about not being able to fly the A380's to India. Did their business plan call for this.

I probably agree with you.

Furthermore, how the 5 A380s will be filled when EY & QR will send their A380s


User currently offlinedc10bhx From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 17895 times:

How will the cargo loads hold out if this should happen?

Are we going to see a freighter flight into the UK each day to assist with any shortfall on cargo capacity due to A380 PAX flights?



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User currently offlinedanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1821 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 17607 times:

Quoting dc10bhx (Reply 5):

Before they upgraded MAN to 3 x daily there were Rumours they'd use the third slot for a cargo flight. Obviously not, but wonder if this would be on the cards now?



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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9119 posts, RR: 76
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 17593 times:
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Quoting dc10bhx (Reply 5):
How will the cargo loads hold out if this should happen?

Are we going to see a freighter flight into the UK each day to assist with any shortfall on cargo capacity due to A380 PAX flights?

Interesting question. Maybe they will send a freighter or the cargo isn't as much as expected so that the PAX business makes more money.

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User currently offlinefcogafa From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 890 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 17509 times:

Maybe, as SIA are doing with their new A380s, there will be larger First/Business sections so the total number of seats actually available will not increase significantly.

User currently offlinedc10bhx From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 17479 times:

Quoting wilco737 (Reply 7):
Interesting question. Maybe they will send a freighter or the cargo isn't as much as expected so that the PAX business makes more money.

Freight makes up a very attractive part of the budget figures for EK. I wonder if the flights from BHX/NCL and LGW ever take up any overspill from the LHR flights?

When you consider the uplift available on an A380 (bearing in mind the increased PAX figures you would loose between
1-2 ULD's worth of space for baggage) if a freighter might not be the answer to the problem.

When you consider how the "waves" are timed from DXB their flights are very attractive to Agents such as myself for quick connections onwards to the Far East and Oceania.



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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9119 posts, RR: 76
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 17459 times:
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Quoting dc10bhx (Reply 9):
Freight makes up a very attractive part of the budget figures for EK

Yeah, I can imagine. I was wondering when I heard that as the 380 takes less freight. Maybe the market at LHR has so many competitors that the rates have dropped and they don't make that much money anymore.

wilco737
  



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User currently offlineojas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2989 posts, RR: 25
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 16103 times:

I guess it is a matter of when given the large A380 orders. Good for LHR!


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31439 posts, RR: 85
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 16011 times:
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Quoting dc10bhx (Reply 5):
Are we going to see a freighter flight into the UK each day to assist with any shortfall on cargo capacity due to A380 PAX flights?
EK does have 747-8 freighters coming.

I always joked that the reason EK originally ordered the A380-800F was to carry all the shopping back from LON that would not fit in the hold of the passenger A380s.  

[Edited 2011-10-14 12:26:54]

User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 15926 times:

I hope soon EK will start sending A380's to LGW. They have LHR and MAN, now lets see LGW!!!

Quoting Stitch (Reply 12):
I always joked that the reason EK originally ordered the A380-800F was to carry all the shopping back from LON that would not fit in the hold of the passenger A380s.

Haha!  



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User currently offlinebonusonus From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 14443 times:

Quoting dc10bhx (Reply 9):
When you consider how the "waves" are timed from DXB their flights are very attractive to Agents such as myself for quick connections onwards to the Far East and Oceania.

Did you just out yourself as MI6?


User currently offlinesofianec From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 241 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 11192 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Thread starter):
If all of this was true, how can Emirates fill 2445 seats every day.

Makes perfect sense actually. A380 was built exactly for airports like LHR (ultra busy, slot limited). If BA can fly 8-9 744's between LHR and JFK, EK can definitely fly: LHR-DXB (on O/D alone - plenty of Brits in UAE alone + region), LHR-DXB-Asia/Pacific/Oceania, LHR-DXB-India/Pakistan. Yes = 4-5 x daily A380's makes complete sense. I wonder if we're ever going to see A380 on LGW-DXB as well (3 daily there).



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User currently offlineblrBird From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 10375 times:

Quoting eaa3 (Reply 3):
Are Emirates worried about not being able to fly the A380's to India.

Indian doors are not closed totally yet! There is big GULF-INDIA civil aviation govt meet next month, let's see what comes out of it. Rumor has it that gulf will get more rights.



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User currently offlineHirnie From Germany, joined May 2004, 596 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 10031 times:

How many flights a day does BA have? What kind of metal do they use?

User currently offlinehamad From United Arab Emirates, joined Apr 2000, 1161 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 9890 times:

To answer the original posters question, you will be amazed how filled up LHR flights are whether they wer 777's or A380's. During the summer season it self, the premuim cabins are even more filled some times than the economy cabin. If emirates decide to send the A380 on all of its flights to LHR, I wouldn't be surprised.


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User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1164 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9642 times:

Quoting Hirnie (Reply 17):
How many flights a day does BA have? What kind of metal do they use?

As far as i know, BA fly twice a day to DXB, late night flight on 747 , early morning on 772. Used to fly 77W for couple of months.


User currently offlinesam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9556 times:

What is EK's current timetable to LHR (inc. aircraft type)?


Next flights: LGW-LBA-LGW, LHR-SIN-SYD, SYD-BKK-LHR, LGW-GRO, GRO-CIA, CIA-MAD, MAD-LGW
User currently offlineUAEflyer From United Arab Emirates, joined Nov 2006, 1164 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9490 times:

Quoting sam1987 (Reply 20):
What is EK's current timetable to LHR (inc. aircraft type)?

EK007 (773)
EK001 (388)
EK029 (77W)
EK003 (388)
EK005 (773)

I think they want EK029 & EK005 to be A380 flights. ( my guessing )


User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3038 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 9442 times:

Quoting sam1987 (Reply 20):
What is EK's current timetable to LHR (inc. aircraft type)?


0700 EK7 EQV Mix of low density B77w and 773
1215 EK1 388
1420 EK29 77W
1840 EK3 388
2015 EK5 773


User currently offlineboysteve From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 958 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8331 times:

Quoting UAEflyer (Thread starter):
If all of this was true, how can Emirates fill 2445 seats every day

Actually it could be 2,585 seats per day depending on which version EK send. AFAIK A6-EDF upto A6-EDM have 517 seats.


User currently offlineEKGOLD From Australia, joined May 2005, 207 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (3 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 7544 times:

London to India/Pakistan - one stop in Dubai...... that is why they want the 388's flying there 5 x daily... UK to Sub-Continent is massive market for EK.

25 tayser : ^ dont discount Kangaroo route competition. MEL and SYD dont get 3x daily flights on EK for no reason at all (regardless if some go via S.E. Asian por
26 ju068 : But wouldn't it make more sense to wait until they get more flying rights into India before attracting more UK-India passengers via Dubai? From what I
27 scbriml : BA has 3 daily flights LHR-DXB : BA107 (12:45, 747), BA105 (20:35, 767) and BA109 (21:40, 777). Types do vary though.[Edited 2011-10-16 06:36:24]
28 Babybus : At the moment I could imagine that there is a lot of vying for seats on the A380 services to LHR. I think of that every time I see the EK A380 over Lo
29 474218 : I thought the "philosophy" behind the A380 was that the amount of flights required would be reduced. Less flights less noise and pollution?
30 Post contains links and images lightsaber : Why the focus on India and regional flights and EK? Last I looked EK is doing a decent expansion to Africa. Since LHR is a impacted and slot controlle
31 planesarecool : I'd imagine EK029 would be the last to be 'upgraded' to the A380. It doesn't connect that well with the major departure 'banks' at DXB and is probabl
32 qf002 : Only because it has the best premium product of the three 777s. The planes are exactly the same size, but with the 773's there's a chance that you're
33 scbriml : In EK's case at Heathrow (heavily slot restricted), the A380 is doing exactly what it was designed to do - offering more seats without adding additio
34 astuteman : Try getting the same capacity as 5 x A380's in 5 flights operated by any other type of aircraft......... Rgds
35 Post contains images Quokka : It can be hit and miss either way. In May I flew on A6-EMM, a 773, but this had been refitted seats in J similar to those found on more recent additi
36 dc10bhx : [quote=bonusonus,reply=14]Quoting dc10bhx (Reply 9): When you consider how the "waves" are timed from DXB their flights are very attractive to Agents
37 Post contains images hal9213 : @Spa: Its a typical been-there-done-that product. I showered once and its fun to have said "I was naked at 40k feet", the second time I showered just
38 474218 : How can a shower be a "ecological waste"?
39 qf002 : Apart from the ridiculous additional fuel burn for carrying all that water?
40 Post contains images GBan : Yes, this philosophy is now proven wrong, the other camp was right: frequency rules the world!
41 Post contains images cmf : Unlike the very appropriate additional fuel burn for all other extras in first.
42 Post contains images qf002 : 100% agree. Better to fill the space with Y seats to drive the price of those tickets down for me
43 hal9213 : Well, if I at least very much enjoyed it, Nature would have at least done me a nice favour. But "just for the sake of it" is like killing lots of cow
44 Post contains images dc10bhx : I can't see EK obtaining any more slots at LHR in the future. I think you might be mixing it up with the number of flights they used to operate into
45 skipness1E : Emirates UK is currently LHR EK007 / 008 B773 / B77W EK001 / 002 A388 EK029 / 030 B77W EK003 / 004 A388 EK005 / 006 B773 / B77W LGW EK011 / 012 B772 /
46 lightsaber : Wrong link: EK MAN is 2X A388 daily?!? I missed that. I would never have bet that MAN would see as many A388s from EK as LHR... Lightsaber
47 skipness1E : No I was just being a bit of a thicko....it's the suite at MAN, wee bus, big bus, long Boeing....!
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