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User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7807 posts, RR: 3
Posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2336 times:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15300751

Does anyone reckon this will have any policy impact.

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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3975 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2276 times:

Personally, I can only hope the new one is more pro-airport! But, without getting too much into my political views, I very doubt it at the moment...   

User currently offlinesteve6666 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2221 times:

Regardless of who gets it, we'll still spend the next ten years arguing over HS2 - the route, the cost, the benefit and taking a wild punt on it signalling the end of intra UK air travel from Inverness to Exeter - before seeing it go £300billion over budget .

Tbh, I suspect it is too soon into the current government for them to go back on pre-election promises, particularly when the areas affected are staunch Tory/Lib-Dem voters.



eu nasci ha dez mil anos atras, e nao tem nada nesse mundo que eu nao saiba demais
User currently offlinesam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2198 times:

Justine Greening is unfortunately just as anti third runway as Philip Hammond.

See this link from her website:

http://www.justinegreening.co.uk/campaigns/

"The new Government has announced that it has scrapped the last Government’s plans for the third runway at Heathrow, as promised before the election.

This announcement is really fantastic news for us and will help protect our local quality of life.

The campaign against the Heathrow Third Runway saw all sorts of communities come together and though it took years to win the argument and get the decision ditched, we finally made it."



Next flights: LGW-LBA-LGW, LHR-SIN-SYD, SYD-BKK-LHR, LGW-GRO, GRO-CIA, CIA-MAD, MAD-LGW
User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2196 times:

Well anything that does not happen by the end of year 3 prob won't happen.

Too close to election.


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2057 times:

Quoting sam1987 (Reply 3):
"The new Government has announced that it has scrapped the last Government’s plans for the third runway at Heathrow, as promised before the election.

This announcement is really fantastic news for us and will help protect our local quality of life.

The campaign against the Heathrow Third Runway saw all sorts of communities come together and though it took years to win the argument and get the decision ditched, we finally made it."

What a clown. I would like to know just how many people purchased property near LHR prior it to being built.

My point being, people should know (and expect) noise/aircraft movements when they purchase a house near an airport.    



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2043 times:

iirc, one of the arguments against a 3rd runway was that they will build HS2 instead.

A pity that it will only initially go from London to Birmingham.

So it will only "replace" flights between those two cities.


User currently offlinesam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1937 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 5):
My point being, people should know (and expect) noise/aircraft movements when they purchase a house near an airport.

  

These people need to realise that aircraft noise is a small price to pay for the immense benefits that airports bring.



Next flights: LGW-LBA-LGW, LHR-SIN-SYD, SYD-BKK-LHR, LGW-GRO, GRO-CIA, CIA-MAD, MAD-LGW
User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3975 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1930 times:

Quoting sam1987 (Reply 7):
aircraft noise is a small price to pay for the immense benefits that airports bring.

Which is one of the reasons why I'm angry at my local council (Medway)'s stark opposition to the "Boris Island" plan... be grateful that we could have an airport so close by!!


User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1918 times:

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 6):
So it will only "replace" flights between those two cities.

And there are none lol

Quoting sam1987 (Reply 7):
These people need to realise that aircraft noise is a small price to pay for the immense benefits that airports bring.

Exactly. LHR has been around since god knows when. And back in the hey day of aviation they were 10 times louder then they are now, and still we have NIMBYS.

As you said, we would not have half the things we do in local airport areas that we would have if the airport was not here. Decent transport networks, schools doctors roads and god knows what else.

If LHR was not here, I could not see places like Hounslow and West Drayton (and lots more) being as connected and populated as they are. 68,000 or so people work at LHR or for companies related to the airport and a lot live locally


User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3038 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 9):
If LHR was not here, I could not see places like Hounslow and West Drayton (and lots more) being as connected and populated as they are. 68,000 or so people work at LHR or for companies related to the airport and a lot live locally

London is one off the worlds largest cites and the fact Heathrow is where it is largely a post world war 2 accident.

Post the war there were many ring of steel airbases in the surrounding home counties that could have been adopted, and several were used lest not foget Northolt and think Stansted is far out now well what about Blackbush !

Where ever the airport chosen would have been I would hazard a guess that much of the economical benefits would still have happened within London and that airport would now be in the top five global airports.

Remember the City is the WRONG side of town and fact both Stansted and Gatwick are today easier to get to using public transport than Heathrow !

So i don't necessarily hold your and tenent or point of view.


User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1870 times:

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 10):
Remember the City is the WRONG side of town and fact both Stansted and Gatwick are today easier to get to using public transport than Heathrow !

Are they?

Direct links to LHR from central Tube train and bus stations from Central London?


User currently offlineplanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1859 times:

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 11):
Direct links to LHR from central Tube train and bus stations from Central London?

In both cases its quicker to get to/from Gatwick.


User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3038 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1771 times:

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 11):
Are they?

Direct links to LHR from central Tube train and bus stations from Central London?

Yes they are !
Liverpool Street is walking distance - Direct trains to Stansted

The Thameslink stations of Faringdon, City Thameslink and Blackfriars pass through the middle of the City- Direct trains to Gatwick and Luton !

To get to Heathrow its either a trundle round the Hammersmith and City/Circle line (Worst and most unreliable stock on network) to Paddington then fleeced on Heathrow Express, or better (not) Central Line change with a million commuters at
Oxford Circus (Fun !) then pack into deep line Piccadilly train for an hour !

Use a Bus/Coach okay if you want to sit in traffic in Chelsea/Fulham for 40 minutes then !


User currently offlineiainbhx From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2008, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1734 times:

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 6):
A pity that it will only initially go from London to Birmingham.

So it will only "replace" flights between those two cities.

Which, of course, haven't existed for about 30 years now.

Justine Greening represents Putney, so I would imagine LHR runway III will not be on her list of priorities.

Never mind, get HS2 and you can use BHX as the third runway.  



iainbhx
User currently offlineitsonlyme From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 149 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 months 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1703 times:

Unfortunately Justine Greening is one of the most anti-airport expansion MP's in the Tory Party. Disappointing, even though im not a fan of a 3rd Heathrow runway. She also represents a very wealthy area of London (Putney) that has plenty of rich, NIMBY types to kick up a fuss over expansion.

User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7807 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1414 times:

lhr380

Spot on.

I wondered who would spot that first.


User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1228 times:

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 13):
To get to Heathrow its either a trundle round the Hammersmith and City/Circle line (Worst and most unreliable stock on network) to Paddington then fleeced on Heathrow Express, or better (not) Central Line change with a million commuters at
Oxford Circus (Fun !) then pack into deep line Piccadilly train for an hour !

I agree. Getting to LHR from central London must be one of the world's most boring train journeys. That Piccadilly line seems to take forever stopping at places where no one gets on or off. You have to be on company expenses to use the Heathrow Express or a lottery winner.

We do have the Crossrail coming on line soon but I guess they will charge a premium for the LHR section. Probably £15 o/w.

London needs a brand new airport out in Canvey Island or Sheppey. 4 runways. Two massive terminals built for the future and a high speed rail link.

If we need one extra runway let it be in Luton or hopefully the new Transport Secretary will put such projects on hold for a decade or two.

.


User currently offlineB747-4U3 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2002, 991 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1186 times:

Looks like people already have concerns about her neutrality:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15333269

I personally think it is an appalling appointment. Heathrow is one of the biggest transport issues in the country. Choosing a transport secretary that is so closely connected with Heathrow (her constituency is under the approach to Heathrow and she has campaigned against a third runway) is going to raise serious questions about her ability to act in a fair and transparent way. Someone from outside of the Heathrow area should have been chosen.


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