steve6666 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 356 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 1733 times:
Regardless of who gets it, we'll still spend the next ten years arguing over HS2 - the route, the cost, the benefit and taking a wild punt on it signalling the end of intra UK air travel from Inverness to Exeter - before seeing it go £300billion over budget .
Tbh, I suspect it is too soon into the current government for them to go back on pre-election promises, particularly when the areas affected are staunch Tory/Lib-Dem voters.
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"The new Government has announced that it has scrapped the last Government’s plans for the third runway at Heathrow, as promised before the election.
This announcement is really fantastic news for us and will help protect our local quality of life.
The campaign against the Heathrow Third Runway saw all sorts of communities come together and though it took years to win the argument and get the decision ditched, we finally made it."
Next flights: LGW-LBA-LGW, LHR-SIN-SYD, SYD-BKK-LHR, LGW-GRO, GRO-CIA, CIA-MAD, MAD-LGW
Jacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 61 Reply 5, posted (1 year 7 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 1569 times:
Quoting sam1987 (Reply 3): "The new Government has announced that it has scrapped the last Government’s plans for the third runway at Heathrow, as promised before the election.
This announcement is really fantastic news for us and will help protect our local quality of life.
The campaign against the Heathrow Third Runway saw all sorts of communities come together and though it took years to win the argument and get the decision ditched, we finally made it."
What a clown. I would like to know just how many people purchased property near LHR prior it to being built.
My point being, people should know (and expect) noise/aircraft movements when they purchase a house near an airport.
Vasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3761 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1442 times:
Quoting sam1987 (Reply 7): aircraft noise is a small price to pay for the immense benefits that airports bring.
Which is one of the reasons why I'm angry at my local council (Medway)'s stark opposition to the "Boris Island" plan... be grateful that we could have an airport so close by!!
lhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1430 times:
Quoting bennett123 (Reply 6): So it will only "replace" flights between those two cities.
And there are none lol
Quoting sam1987 (Reply 7): These people need to realise that aircraft noise is a small price to pay for the immense benefits that airports bring.
Exactly. LHR has been around since god knows when. And back in the hey day of aviation they were 10 times louder then they are now, and still we have NIMBYS.
As you said, we would not have half the things we do in local airport areas that we would have if the airport was not here. Decent transport networks, schools doctors roads and god knows what else.
If LHR was not here, I could not see places like Hounslow and West Drayton (and lots more) being as connected and populated as they are. 68,000 or so people work at LHR or for companies related to the airport and a lot live locally
rutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 1994 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1404 times:
Quoting lhr380 (Reply 9): If LHR was not here, I could not see places like Hounslow and West Drayton (and lots more) being as connected and populated as they are. 68,000 or so people work at LHR or for companies related to the airport and a lot live locally
London is one off the worlds largest cites and the fact Heathrow is where it is largely a post world war 2 accident.
Post the war there were many ring of steel airbases in the surrounding home counties that could have been adopted, and several were used lest not foget Northolt and think Stansted is far out now well what about Blackbush !
Where ever the airport chosen would have been I would hazard a guess that much of the economical benefits would still have happened within London and that airport would now be in the top five global airports.
Remember the City is the WRONG side of town and fact both Stansted and Gatwick are today easier to get to using public transport than Heathrow !
So i don't necessarily hold your and tenent or point of view.
lhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1382 times:
Quoting rutankrd (Reply 10): Remember the City is the WRONG side of town and fact both Stansted and Gatwick are today easier to get to using public transport than Heathrow !
Are they?
Direct links to LHR from central Tube train and bus stations from Central London?
Direct links to LHR from central Tube train and bus stations from Central London?
Yes they are !
Liverpool Street is walking distance - Direct trains to Stansted
The Thameslink stations of Faringdon, City Thameslink and Blackfriars pass through the middle of the City- Direct trains to Gatwick and Luton !
To get to Heathrow its either a trundle round the Hammersmith and City/Circle line (Worst and most unreliable stock on network) to Paddington then fleeced on Heathrow Express, or better (not) Central Line change with a million commuters at
Oxford Circus (Fun !) then pack into deep line Piccadilly train for an hour !
Use a Bus/Coach okay if you want to sit in traffic in Chelsea/Fulham for 40 minutes then !
itsonlyme From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 149 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (1 year 7 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1215 times:
Unfortunately Justine Greening is one of the most anti-airport expansion MP's in the Tory Party. Disappointing, even though im not a fan of a 3rd Heathrow runway. She also represents a very wealthy area of London (Putney) that has plenty of rich, NIMBY types to kick up a fuss over expansion.
Babybus From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3512 posts, RR: 6 Reply 17, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 740 times:
Quoting rutankrd (Reply 13): To get to Heathrow its either a trundle round the Hammersmith and City/Circle line (Worst and most unreliable stock on network) to Paddington then fleeced on Heathrow Express, or better (not) Central Line change with a million commuters at
Oxford Circus (Fun !) then pack into deep line Piccadilly train for an hour !
I agree. Getting to LHR from central London must be one of the world's most boring train journeys. That Piccadilly line seems to take forever stopping at places where no one gets on or off. You have to be on company expenses to use the Heathrow Express or a lottery winner.
We do have the Crossrail coming on line soon but I guess they will charge a premium for the LHR section. Probably £15 o/w.
London needs a brand new airport out in Canvey Island or Sheppey. 4 runways. Two massive terminals built for the future and a high speed rail link.
If we need one extra runway let it be in Luton or hopefully the new Transport Secretary will put such projects on hold for a decade or two.
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and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
I personally think it is an appalling appointment. Heathrow is one of the biggest transport issues in the country. Choosing a transport secretary that is so closely connected with Heathrow (her constituency is under the approach to Heathrow and she has campaigned against a third runway) is going to raise serious questions about her ability to act in a fair and transparent way. Someone from outside of the Heathrow area should have been chosen.
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