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What Is DL Doing At HHN?  
User currently offlineMCO2BRS From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 546 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 9223 times:

Hi All

I've been at HHN the last two weekends, and each Saturday I've seen a DL 764 depart around 0900 or so. Any ideas on what its been doing here?

Also got to see the CV 748 doing circuits the other day  

Cheers,

MCO 2 BRS

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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15795 posts, RR: 27
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 9190 times:

Quoting MCO2BRS (Thread starter):
Any ideas on what its been doing here?

DoD charter maybe?



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User currently offlinegkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24951 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 9190 times:

I'd presume a military charter flight?


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User currently offlineT8KE0FF From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 9190 times:

I'm pretty sure it has something to do with the military? I think they all fly in somewhere for training or something army related, but honestly I'm not entirely sure!


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User currently offlineMCO2BRS From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 546 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9152 times:

That would explain the occasional C-17's that I've seen here as well then. First time I saw it I thought it may have been a diversion, but when I saw it yesterday as well it was obvious they were regular visitors.

Cheers,

MCO 2 BRS


User currently offlineFlyer732 From Namibia, joined Nov 1999, 1367 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9107 times:

They continue to "points beyond." HHN is just a tech stop for fuel, catering and a crew change.

User currently offlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5238 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 8784 times:

Quoting Flyer732 (Reply 5):
They continue to "points beyond." HHN is just a tech stop for fuel, catering and a crew change.

Wouldnt that make more sense at AMS since NW often used that for military charters, or Rammstein since its a huge US airforce base not that far away?


User currently offlineflyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 1016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 8737 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 6):

Wouldnt that make more sense at AMS since NW often used that for military charters, or Rammstein since its a huge US airforce base not that far away?

HHN has cheaper landing charges than AMS, and cheaper fuel than RMS.

There's also the security issue of having civilian crews hanging around an airbase...

I live under the approach path for Ramstein, so I'm quite happy to see these flights go to HHN instead.



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User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 6017 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 8392 times:

Looks like there are two more enroute, though they won't arrive until after nightfall:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8962
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/DAL8957


User currently offlineFlyer732 From Namibia, joined Nov 1999, 1367 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 7965 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 6):
Wouldnt that make more sense at AMS since NW often used that for military charters, or Rammstein since its a huge US airforce base not that far away?
Quoting flyingalex (Reply 7):

HHN has cheaper landing charges than AMS, and cheaper fuel than RMS.

There's also the security issue of having civilian crews hanging around an airbase...

I live under the approach path for Ramstein, so I'm quite happy to see these flights go to HHN instead.
Quoting flyingalex (Reply 7):

HHN has cheaper landing charges than AMS, and cheaper fuel than RMS.

There's also the security issue of having civilian crews hanging around an airbase...

I live under the approach path for Ramstein, so I'm quite happy to see these flights go to HHN instead.

HHN is used because its an approved tech stop location. RMS is only used if there are pax getting on/off. There are plenty of civilian crews that operate into and out of RMS on a daily basis, just have a look at the database on here and you can see the pictures.


User currently offlineNavigator From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 1214 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 6422 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 6):
Wouldnt that make more sense at AMS since NW often used that for military charters, or Rammstein since its a huge US airforce base not that far away?
Quoting flyingalex (Reply 7):
There's also the security issue of having civilian crews hanging around an airbase...

That is most certainly a non issue. Civil crews flying airliners are trusted, and they know better than just hanging around. I think you underestimate the ability of civilian crews. And for the security issue most such crews are performing better than many military personell  



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User currently offlineHighlandExpress From UK - Scotland, joined Aug 2011, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5146 times:

I Live & work at Ramstein AB, we get DL flights in regularly, 744's, etc....and most major US carriers.


I am from Scotland, but I live in Germany.....
User currently offlineDLPMMM From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 3594 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4666 times:

Quoting MCO2BRS (Thread starter):
I've been at HHN the last two weekends, and each Saturday I've seen a DL 764 depart around 0900 or so. Any ideas on what its been doing here?

DL 763s, not 764s.

The 764s are all outfitted with the new lie flat business class and are busy doing the premium LHR/FRA/MUC and GRU (and possibly a few other) flights. They would probably not use them for military charters.

Cheers,


User currently offlineXFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4218 posts, RR: 37
Reply 13, posted (3 years 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

Later this month and next month you'll be seeing 744's passing through HHN as well.  


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User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4402 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (3 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2517 times:

I have see Delta, United, Continental, American 767s and 777s in HHN, together with many other charter airlines, almost every time I was up there, and seen young men all dressed in green/brown deboarding and boarding. To my knowledge they are not going to some training, but to war.

I assume, HHN just is cheaper.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26626 posts, RR: 75
Reply 15, posted (3 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2505 times:

Besides pricing, HHN is also less crowded than the major commercial airports and was a US Air Force Base for more than 40 years. Indeed, HHN still hosts a small communications base.

Another thing is that you are less likely to see major protests like the ones seen at SNN and other places over the years, because of how isolated HHN is.



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User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4402 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (3 years 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2488 times:

Yes, HHN is one of the few places in Europe where planes still are welcome to the general public, because it is the only job machine out there and people still remember the noise of the air base...

User currently offlineMCO2BRS From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 546 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2477 times:

Quoting DLPMMM (Reply 12):
DL 763s, not 764s.

Thanks for the clarification! I've always seen them from an angle, so was never sure if it was a 763 or 764.

Quoting XFSUgimpLB41X (Reply 13):

Later this month and next month you'll be seeing 744's passing through HHN as well

I'm leaving this week  At least I got to see the CV 748F the other day doing circuits!!!

Cheers,

MCO 2 BRS


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