QANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1861 posts, RR: 2 Posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1407 times:
I'm interested in learning more about SAN and was wondering if anyone had any websites or information about SAN regarding what airlines fly there, what destinations it serves, and how "busy" it is, and anything else regarding it. Thanks a lot!
My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
456 From Netherlands, joined Feb 2001, 263 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1227 times:
I was there for some holiday spending in San Diego. Nice view from Mission Beach!
A lot of dc9 and 727 (for me as dutch not a familiar aircraft anymore) flew above me and had a turn above the sea to fly back into the land.
Rojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2419 posts, RR: 10 Reply 5, posted (12 years 5 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1218 times:
SAN has only one runway, and there is no space for expansion. Hope they decide soon what they are going to do if the airport reaches its maximum capacity.
TIJ is a possibility for a major international airport.
Lindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3091 posts, RR: 15 Reply 6, posted (12 years 5 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1214 times:
In the next ten years all the environmental impact studies will be complete and there will be a decision whether or not to build a terminal on the north side of the airport, probably to be used by Southwest.
Jumbojettim From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 193 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (12 years 5 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1192 times:
There is some room to expand. When and if the Marine Corp Recuiting Depot (MCRD) ever leaves, SAN can expand to the north (extend the north taxiway for the full length of runway). Our new mayor is looking into the possiblity of placing the new airport just east of Miramar.
Spyderz From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 651 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (12 years 5 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1183 times:
I'm not sure, but I heard Air Canada was planning on dropping their Toronto service. Anyways, SAN has an excellent approach when the planes fly over the city. The airport is so close to the high rises that I was looking in the windows on the 13th floor of a 20 storey building!
Trvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 22 Reply 10, posted (12 years 5 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1178 times:
Spyderz: Where did you hear that AC was planning on dropping YYZ? That seems odd; I thought that the route was doing well. Oh well; I think they'd have more luck with YVR if they tried it.
There is talk of a new regional-planning authority in San Diego which will undertake the task of siting a new airport (or so it has been said). Miramar, or that region, I still think is obviously the best place for a new airport, but alas, there are too many ignorant NIMBY's around there. If not somewhere near Miramar, then Tijuana will pick up San Diego's overflow traffic once SAN reaches capacity. The idea of an airport at Camp Pendleton is not too bright, and I hope no further county resources are put forth trying to build one there.
In the immediate future, plans for SAN include the development of the land immediately west of Terminal 2, recently purchased by the Port. Developments there include an employee parking lot, and aircraft parking aprons. This may mean that SAN may get some more interesting aircraft from the airlines, as they may be tempted overnight some more here as the Port does not charge for overnight parking. I believe that environmental review for the terminal on the north side of the airport is complete or nearing completion; it should get built within a few years. Maybe then, Southwest will be able to go a little farther towards living up to their statement that they would soon have 100 departures a day from SAN (in the past few years however, the number has only increased by 2 or 3 to just under 80).
Airic: Ah cool, you live near Miramar? Do you get down to SAN often? Drop me an email sometime; I'm always looking for people who like aviation in the San Diego area.
456 From Netherlands, joined Feb 2001, 263 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (12 years 5 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1164 times:
Maybe a stupid question, but what is a NIMBY?
And was there in Miramar not a airport yet? (navy, tom cat or so )?
If yes, is it that airport where at the gate some old navy planes were standing? I entered SAN there last year i thought, en route to La Jolla.
(And bought some groceries at miramar mall, so thats why i am concluding).
Aloha 737-200 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (12 years 5 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1158 times:
Have you been to San Diego yet??!!! I really suggest you do go there I had a wonderful time and it's one of the cities onmy list where I could spend the rest of my life in.....
Well I can't say I'm an expert in that area. I KNOW that there is a British Airways flight from SAN to the UK. I saw a 744, BA, depart last summer while I was there. Awesome sight.
I do know that there are MILLIONS of shuttle flights up and down the california coast to almost every Californian city that has a population over 100,000. Alot of these are ex-PSA routes, picked up by USAir and then United, Southwest, AA, CO, etc.
I know SAN has flight to Kahului, Maui (OGG) and Honolulu, Oahu (HNL)
I'd also wager many flights into Canada and Mexico. but SAN is VERY VERY busy!!
They;d have alot more int'l flight were it not for the fact that the city has grown around SAN and it has nowhere to expand. Miramar was a option a while ago, but I've lost track of what happened there.
Go to San Diego, you'll never wanna leave.
Oh before I forget....SAN isn't exactly the best spotting place. Why? Lighting conditions. At the times when the sun is at your back,it is cloudy.
But you love that cloudy when you walk outside and feel it....ahhhh...humidity, and a cool ocean breeze...love it.
The best time to spot would be from about oh 11AM to about 5PM, 3PM in the Winter. Because the clouds come in in the evening after 5, sometimes before....you you have a limited amount of time to get some good shots.
But overall worth it!!!
Visit the old PSA terminal, I didn't have a chance to.
QANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1861 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (12 years 5 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1156 times:
Your post was real informative about photo taking! I live in LA and I live and go to school at the University of San Diego about 5 minutes north of SAN and I've been meaning to go to SAN to take pictures because I feel they are lacking on airliners.net. The 11am and 5pm lighting technique sounds like a plan. Thanks!
And YES, San Diego is the best place to spend the rest of your life. The ocean breeze is like no other!!! Once the marine layer clears by noon, its brilliant blue skies and swaying green palm trees!!! Gotta love it!!!
My posts/replies are strictly my opinion and not that of any company, organization, or Southwest Airlines.
Lindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3091 posts, RR: 15 Reply 16, posted (12 years 5 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1156 times:
QANTAS747-438-- Please check out my post on the photo requests forum of aircraft at SAN. I have listed a number of aircraft/airlines operating at Lindbergh Field that aren't yet in the database. I'd especially like to see photos of the Hawaiian DC-10 and the Air Canada A319 at SAN. If you can make it down there in the morning between 8:00 and 10:00, you should be able to photograph a number of interesting aircraft with morning departures and midmorning arrivals.
Some of the info provided by Aloha 737-200 is incorrect. There are only two daily direct flights to Mexico and the one flight to Toronto. US Airways has no inter-California flights any more, and neither does Continental. There is no flight to Kahluii.(No, I can't spell correctly)
Trvlr: Your knowledge about SAN always impresses me.
I'll try to email you next time I'm in San Diego for lunch at the Windsock.(Probably November or December)
456: NIMBY means "Not in my backyard", i.e. Don't build an airport anywhere close to where I live...
Trvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 22 Reply 19, posted (12 years 5 months 18 hours ago) and read 1131 times:
The East of Miramar plan really isn't a plan, more than it is a theory. So far I think that at this point people are only talking about the possibility of the candidacy of East Miramar as a site for a new airport; nothing I think has been said as to how the actual airport would be built and how big it would be, as well as how it would affect Miramar MCAS', Montgomery Field's, and I assume probably Gillespe (sp?) Field's operations. If the new regional planning authority is created, however (which I sure hope it is, as it seems like the only way to get things moving in San Diego concerning the airport), we should see a lot more info on this option appear.
I just formulated a quick question/theory in regards to the option of siting a new airport on the site of the current Miramar MCAS. I know that the the current alignment of the main runway (6L/24R I believe), would send aircraft on commercial flights over some of the residential areas of University City and La Jolla. However, what would the flight path of departures and arrivals from an airport at the Miramar MCAS look like if the runway were repositioned to a 9L/27R configuration such as Lindbergh Field's? What would be the differences, if any, to the landing and takeoff procedures and flight patterns for planes using an arrangement like this out of Miramar instead of the current 6L/24R configuration?
Just a quick thought on that option that I had. I'll get back to it later. Thank you very much if anyone can provide any insight whatsoever as to my question.
Airic From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (12 years 5 months 11 hours ago) and read 1111 times:
An airport nmby Miramar would be great. Much more centralized than Oceanside or Tijuana area, and even downtown maybe. But, like I've said, this is a conservative area, so NIMBYism is widespread through the area.
Jumbojettim From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 193 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (12 years 5 months 11 hours ago) and read 1106 times:
Yes, it is only a preliminary idea to build the new airport east of Miramar. Whats good about this location is that it is a huge open area to where there should be limited opposition against the airport. On a side note, I'm so sick and tired of this nimby crap. Everyone complains that flights are being delayed and/or cancelled, and one of the major reasons is due to congested airports. However, when it comes time to build these new airports or to expand existing ones, no one wants it to happen. Just my two cents.
Personally if the airport were to be moved to Miramar, there would be no noise problem for the surrounding residents. Todays airliners would be at several thousand feet once they have departed over the coastline residents. Hell, the Marine helicopters are ten times louder then any airliner that would come into this airport if ever built. So, I feel that they wouldn't have to realign the runways.