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Ryanair To Open A Base At Warsaw Modlin Airport  
User currently offlineraaadek From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 51 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 7179 times:

Ryanair's Michael Cowley has held a press conference in Warsaw today announcing airlines' interest in opening a base at Warsaw Modlin airport which is due to start operations in 2012. According to Cowley, Ryanair plan over the next 5 years is to have up to 10 aircraft based in Modlin operating to 40 destinations in Europe. Now, because the airline has not signed the contract with the airport yet (it was mentioned that the negotiations are ongoing and in it's final stages), and no airport representative was present at the press conference, how much can we read into it? Is it just a PR stunt to put pressure on the airport authorities? Anyone has more?
Link to the news from the polish aviation website - in polish only, sorry.
http://www.fly4free.pl/na-zywo-ryanair-przyleci-do-warszawy/

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User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 7063 times:

Interesting.
Ryanair will obviously try and get a very favourable deal on their own terms so i would not be surprised if this deal does not happen. I suppose it depends on how much interest other airlines show.

Here is the airport website, it's a former military facility but it needs a lot of work to bring it up to standard.
http://www.modlinairport.pl/


User currently offlineraaadek From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 6974 times:

Here's a selection of most recent photos of the terminal building.
http://www.loter.pl/zdjecia-z-budowy-terminal-modlin
Looks pretty raw, would you say 8 months is enough time to finish it, test etc. Planned opening is for June 2012.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19246 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 6851 times:

Unsurprising, of course.

I wonder whether W6 would shift from WAW. I suppose they would, if they could obtain lower landing, passenger, and parking fees, which seems rather likely.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5260 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 6647 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 3):
I wonder whether W6 would shift from WAW. I suppose they would, if they could obtain lower landing, passenger, and parking fees, which seems rather likely.

The new airport is just 35km from Warschau ( if that is your destination, which often isnt the case) so I would say to W6 : MOVE if it lowers fares. ( And start a Warschau - Budapest route ofcourse   )


User currently offlineRAAADEK From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6311 times:

Interesting piece of information is available on the airport website, such as landing fees in a PDF file (polish only)
http://www.modlinairport.pl/images/u...Regulamin%20Oplat%2001.02.2011.pdf
According to this document, any aicraft with a MTOW over 2T will be charged at 28PLN/T (£5.60). B737-800, according to wikipedia has a MTOW of 65.5-85.1T. So taking MTOW from the middle of that range gives 75T x 28PLN = 2100PLN (£422).
Parking fees - 30PLN (£6.03) for the first 24h, 25PLN any subsequent 24h started. Monthly parking fee 460PLN (£92)
Anyone knows how it compares to landing charges at WAW.


User currently offlinegilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3048 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6311 times:

Not good news for Wizzair, they are one of the few LCC in Europe that have not had to compete head to head with Ryanair, all but on a fraction of their routes...

Despite Wizzair being a Hungarian carrier, Poland is by far their biggest market and Warsaw is their largest base. If Ryanair does base ten aircraft here, this is going to have a massive impact on the airline and dwarf their presence.

Wizzair has in recent years been in dispute with WAW about the price of their fees and were not happy with the closure of the LCC Terminal they use to utilise. I would suspect they would be keen to use this new airport too, as they usually use secondary airports across their network. BUT with Ryanair opening up at this airport, I'm not sure Wizzair will want to be seen flying head to head with them.


User currently offlineWROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 965 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6107 times:

Polish web-service pasazer.com had an interview with the PR person from the new Modlin Airport at the recent Routes conference in Berlin. He said that the airport is talking with many airlines and quite a few of them were not present in Warsaw up to this point. Never mention FR but did say they are shooting for June 2012 right before the Euro Soccer Cup.

http://www.pasazer.com/in-8394-co,slychac,w,modlinie,.php


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19246 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 5431 times:

This might interest you (there's a bit about Modlin at the bottom): http://www.anna.aero/2011/10/20/ryan...nces-first-polish-base-in-wroclaw/


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11690 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 5281 times:

My first thought is that the terminal looks a bit small for ten based aircraft and up to 2000 passengers an hour. Presumably they have a plan to expand, perhaps it's a modular building.


Dan  



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