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Richard Branson Opens Virgin Galactic Spaceport  
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10901 posts, RR: 37
Posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2334 times:

Historic day in New Mexico

A historic day today in New Mexico as we will be opening the first commercial spaceport in the world - Spaceport America.
The first astronauts to join us on Virgin Galactic flights will be there with us, along with our Virgin Money Australia and #spacecheetah competition winners.

http://www.virgin.com/richard-branson/blog/historic-day-in-new-mexico

Those who have already bought tickets:
http://www.jpspacejobs.com/articles/virgin_galactic_passenger_list


  

[Edited 2011-10-17 06:53:38]


There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
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User currently offlinenighthawk From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 5157 posts, RR: 33
Reply 1, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2319 times:

Does this mean the first flight will be taking place today?

Apparently NASA have also charted the aircraft for a flight, with options for two more future flights.



That'll teach you
User currently offlinenomadd22 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1871 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2284 times:

I'm not exactly sure what "open" means since there are no scheduled flights yet. Maybe it just means the fueling and service facilities are up. Virgin won't be flying passangers for at least a year, but there will be testing and other possible uses for White Knight II. I know NASA just signed a contract with them.
It could also mean open to GA now.

[Edited 2011-10-17 08:43:25]


Andy Goetsch
User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10901 posts, RR: 37
Reply 3, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2082 times:

FYI i received this email newsletter from VG

http://www.virgingalactic.com/

Sir Richard Branson and New Mexico Governor Susana Martinez dedicate the ‘Virgin Galactic Gateway to Space'
WhiteKnightTwo and SpaceShipTwo soar over Spaceport America

http://www.virgingalactic.com/news/i...cate-the-virgin-galactic-gateway-/

Somehow I don't get excited by this VirginGalactic thing at all. Also I find it way too overpriced for the experience.
I would spend (much less) money doing a "Edge of Space" flight from Moscow in a two-seater Mig 25 with some 45 minutes of excitement reaching basically the same heights as the Virgin Galactic suborbital flights. Thei pilots are true aces.

http://www.flymig.com/aircraft/MiG-25/11.htm

For those with the big $$$ you can buy yourself the real thing... fly to the ISS in a Soyuz complete with a Space Walk, even a Lunar flight.
http://www.spaceadventures.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=orbital.welcome

Why get the imitation when you can get the real thing?

    



There was a better way to fly it was called Concorde
User currently offlinehal9213 From Germany, joined May 2009, 302 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1843 times:

Quoting MadameConcorde (Reply 3):
Why get the imitation when you can get the real thing?

As for the people: I guess for the rich, its just because its there (or will be). Its like "The amusement park xyz is really great, but why not try that other one?". Just yet another adventure ride.

As for the technology: I believe its a technology capable of advancing much further, and doing much more than shooting some people to 100km. As a kid, someone said, that most the fuel of a conventional rocket is used to overcome gravity in the first stage of flight. I always wondered (and do so today) if its not viable to build a heavy-lifter (like AN225) with wings and engine technology to go as high as possible, and incorporate some kind of "launch-pad". How much less fuel would you need launching a conventional rocket from 60-70k feet altitude?
The virgin thing is like a step towards my childhood illusions.


User currently offlinePW100 From Netherlands, joined Jan 2002, 2485 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1618 times:

Quoting hal9213 (Reply 4):
How much less fuel would you need launching a conventional rocket from 60-70k feet altitude

The problem in going orbital is not so much the altitude, but the speed requirements. You need to go 28000+ km/hr to get anywhere near a low earth orbit. An AN225 is not going to substantially help that.

PW100



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User currently offline26point2 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 832 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1433 times:

I didn't see it mentioned in the story or on the website...where is this airport? New Mexico, obvious. Las Cruces, perhaps... because HQ is there, but is the facility built on an existing airfield or was a dedicated one built? There seems to be no mention of a specific location. Just curious.

User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1370 times:

Quoting hal9213 (Reply 4):
As for the people: I guess for the rich, its just because its there

I would say that a good proportion of those people have been given free tickets as a marketing tactic. It's like those big property developments where they tell you David Beckham has bought one of the flats/villas and he's never been near the place.

I really don't see the point of this Galactic operation. It only lasts a couple of minutes as far as I understand it.


User currently offlinejustloveplanes From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1060 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1347 times:

Quoting hal9213 (Reply 4):
As for the technology: I believe its a technology capable of advancing much further, and doing much more than shooting some people to 100km. As a kid, someone said, that most the fuel of a conventional rocket is used to overcome gravity in the first stage of flight. I always wondered (and do so today) if its not viable to build a heavy-lifter (like AN225) with wings and engine technology to go as high as possible, and incorporate some kind of "launch-pad". How much less fuel would you need launching a conventional rocket from 60-70k feet altitude?
The virgin thing is like a step towards my childhood illusions.

I think that's how the launch system works. A mule with a high altitude releasable passenger carrying vehicle.


User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7919 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (2 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1235 times:

This is just my opinion, but I would think a spaceport would be more of a connection to another port--whether that be on the moon, another planet, or even a docking station somewhere in space. Just taking off, "hitting space," and coming back might make this technically a spaceport, but I am not impressed...


Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
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