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BA World Cargo 748f Taxi Test Video  
User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7737 posts, RR: 17
Posted (3 years 1 month 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 12143 times:

Matt Cawsby haqs posted a video of G-GSSD making a taxi teston 20 October in preparation for its first flight:

http://kpae.blogspot.com/

It should be delivered late this month or at the very begining of November. I heard that its first revenue flight might be on 2 November if test flights are OK.

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User currently offlineshufflemoomin From Denmark, joined Jun 2010, 480 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 11888 times:

I never fail to be stunned when I think of everything that goes into constructing an aircraft like that, to get everything together and up and running and how quickly they can do it. On a related note, it looks beautiful.

User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8588 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 11793 times:
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Great video, the 748-F looks stunning in BA's colours, shame there is no place for the -I in the mainline fleet.


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User currently offlinetb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1648 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 11218 times:

Man, that's a good looking airplane! Thanks!


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User currently offlineghifty From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 891 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 9432 times:

Wow! That is one looong plane.

I didn't know they were adding the "World Cargo" back onto the livery.. looks good (though I am disappointed at the lack of a crest).

Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 1):

I never fail to be stunned when I think of everything that goes into constructing an aircraft like that, to get everything together and up and running and how quickly they can do it. On a related note, it looks beautiful.

+1 It's one of the many reasons I admire aviation.. everything works in perfect synchronization.



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User currently offlinehannahpa From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 9085 times:
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Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 2):
the 748-F looks stunning in BA's colours, shame there is no place for the -I in the mainline fleet.

I agree completely!!! Maybe time will tell. We can always hope......


User currently offlineN93109 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7174 times:
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Is it me or is the BA union flag tail paint job slightly different than the pax 744 aircraft. The angle of the flag on the tail looks different to me having seen a million of the 744.

User currently offlineT8KE0FF From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5082 times:

Quoting N93109 (Reply 6):

Is it me or is the BA union flag tail paint job slightly different than the pax 744 aircraft. The angle of the flag on the tail looks different to me having seen a million of the 744.

There was a thread about this a few weeks ago, there was a reason for it, but I can't actually remember.. But I agree, it does look strange.



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User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6042 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4777 times:

There was no reason for it, just a slight update to design fleetwide or maybe just the 747 fleet.

User currently offlineFlyingsottsman From Australia, joined Oct 2010, 565 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4100 times:

What a beautiful looking aircraft, I hope airlines start buying this jet and keep ther 747 flying .

User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3975 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3979 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 8):
There was no reason for it, just a slight update to design fleetwide or maybe just the 747 fleet.

Anyone know when we can expect to see the updated tail on the first passenger aircraft?


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5005 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3519 times:

Quoting ghifty (Reply 4):
I didn't know they were adding the "World Cargo" back onto the livery..

It was part of the lease agreement that the new aircraft would operate under the British Airways full branding for a period of 5 years.

Quoting N93109 (Reply 6):
Is it me or is the BA union flag tail paint job slightly different than the pax 744 aircraft.

I believe this was due to the NEW positioning of the stabilizer therefore the Union flag has been adjusted...

EK413

[Edited 2011-10-24 05:30:03]


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User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7737 posts, RR: 17
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3465 times:

Quoting N93109 (Reply 6):
Is it me or is the BA union flag tail paint job slightly different than the pax 744 aircraft.
Quoting EK413 (Reply 11):
I believe this was due to the NEW positioning of the stabilizer therefore the Union flag has been adjusted...

My guess is that this is correct. Passenger 744 G-BNLU was recently (27 September) rolled out at LHR after repainting:


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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3975 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3453 times:

Quoting VV701 (Reply 12):
My guess is that this is correct. Passenger 744 G-BNLU was recently (27 September) rolled out at LHR after repainting:

The tail on BNLU looks the same as previously, if I'm not mistaken... not like the one on the 748


User currently offlineordcargo From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3453 times:

scheduled to appear at ORD November 6

User currently offlineJACK02116 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3416 times:

just curious that as this has a short upper deck, does it have a spiral staircase as per the 100/200?

User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3203 times:

Quoting JACK02116 (Reply 15):
just curious that as this has a short upper deck, does it have a spiral staircase as per the 100/200?

It's a freighter...it's got a foldable ladder rather than a staircase.

Tom.


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6042 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2897 times:

Quoting Vasu (Reply 13):

Its the same currnt design not the new one, I doubt stabiliser change can cause design alteration so that dosent make sense.


User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2766 times:

Answers here :

PICTURE: BA World Cargo 747-8F (by blackwidow Oct 4 2011 in Civil Aviation)

Rumored BA Livery Change? (by G-CIVP Sep 21 2011 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7737 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 2765 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 17):
Its the same currnt design not the new one, I doubt stabiliser change can cause design alteration so that dosent make sense.

I guess that we will have to wait and see. If this is a purposeful change in tail livery not impacted by other practical consideration it also makes no sense at all.

BA 748F G-GSSD was first pictured on the Boeing flight line at PAE on 30 September wearing the "new" tail livery.

Meanwhile 744 G-BNLU had been rolled out of BA's own paint shop at LHR on 27 September. It was resplendent in the "old" version of the tail livery. But it was wearing the modified version of the BA fuselage livery. This incorporates for the first time the BA "To Fly. To Serve" herealdic crest after the main titles. This is the crest that featured on the tail as part of the Landor livery. This revised fuselage livery will eventually be worn by the whole BA fleet:


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User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2701 times:

Quoting VV701 (Reply 19):
This is the crest that featured on the tail as part of the Landor livery. This revised fuselage livery will eventually be worn by the whole BA fleet:

I suspect it won't, I know it's the stated intention, but looking at in real life, hmmmmm. It jars with the rest of the livery.


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 6042 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2564 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 20):

Exactly, more so where its placed, near the cockpit or nose section would be better, I tried both on the above pic and they look much better, but cant post image here as this site does not allow its photos to be modified, though everyone is doing so at aviation-design site.

As for the tail, has the aircraft been painted fully as in after D check? sometimes they just repaint them in parts, like some SQ birds had big title on old livery, or new tail with old titles.

[Edited 2011-10-25 08:54:49]

User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2489 times:

Not sure but it's been in desert storage for a long time so it would have faded badly in the sun if they didn't.

User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7737 posts, RR: 17
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 2370 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 21):
As for the tail, has the aircraft been painted fully as in after D check?

I cannot be totally sure. But there are a significant number of indicators that it has been completely repainted.

First have another look at the aircraft as it is today:


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Then remember that this aircraft spent many months parked up in the Southern California desert at VCV until it arrived back at CWL on 31 March this year. Does it look as if it has been in the desert for a prolonged period? I do not think so.

When it was with British Airways Maintenance Cardiff at CWL it is known to have undergone major maintenance - a 'D' Check - as well as having the new BA F Class cabin fitted. On completion of this work it was ferried to LHR on 8 July and returned to service.

It continued to operate out of LHR until it completed a rotation to JFK (BA113/16) on 12 September. It did not fly again until after it was rolled out at LHR on 30 September carrying the 'To Fly. To Serve' heraldic crest and 'Dreamflight 25' titles.

If you compare this photo taken while it was parked at VCV with the picture above:


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note that in the photo taken at VCV there are vertical red alignment marks below the each side of the cabin door. On the latest photo these two lines that are adjacent to the blue painted area are still present. However there is now a third line adjacent to the forward end of the base of the door that was not there before. It also seems to me that the positioning of the 'Speedmarque' with reference to both the top of the cabin door and to the aft end upper cabin windows is very slightly different.

If you look at any photos in the data base taken before September of this year you will see that this aircraft has the abbreviated registration 'LU' painted on the top rear tail. But in the latest photo it has 'NLU' painted in the same position instead.

Finally BA has announced that it plans to add the heraldic crest to all its aircraft as they are repainted. This very strongly suggests that G-BNLU has indeed been repainted. This would also explain why it was out-of-service at LHR from 12 to 30 September when BA carries out all major maintenance on all its wide-bodied aircraft at CWL, but paints and repaints all its aircraft at LHR.


User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2255 times:

Ah! If it has the last three on the fin, it's been resprayed. Policy is to have the last three on the fin rather than the traditional last two, the Airbus A319 fleet has almost been completed and the A320s are now being done. Indeed the latest B777-236ERs were delivered with the last three on the fin. Except that the new B777-300ERs have only the last two like every recent delivery from Toulouse, including G-EUYM, consistently inconsistent!

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