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Largest Airplane Emergency Landing HYD (EK A380)  
User currently offlinefreqflyer From India, joined Apr 2006, 99 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 25060 times:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...Hyderabad/articleshow/10461074.cms

(Sorry if it has been posted earlier - I searched but could not find it. Mods, pls delete if already posted.)

HYDERABAD: The world's largest airplane Airbus A380 made an emergency landing at Rajiv Gandhi International Airport near here Sunday, an airport official said.

The Emirates flight, with 481 passengers on board, was on its way from Bangkok to Dubai.

"The aircraft landed with 481 passengers safely at 3.40 a.m.," an airport spokesman said.

The pilot cited a technical snag in the aircraft as the reason for making the emergency landing at the airport in Shamshabad, around 20 km from Hyderabad.

The aircraft first approached the Chennai airport but did not get clearance for landing as the runway was busy. The pilot then contacted Air Traffic Control at Shamshabad and got the clearance to land.

The Emirates was making arrangements to accommodate the passengers on its Hyderabad-Dubai flights.

This is the second time that A380 has landed at Hyderabad.

During the civil aviation exhibition in October 2008, the aircraft had landed at Begumpet Airport, the old airport in the city. The aircraft, with a seating capacity of 525, came from the company's headquarters in Toulouse, France.

It then landed at the Rajiv Gandhi International Airport, marking the first landing of the super-jumbo at India's first Code F compliant airport - equipped to receive larger aircraft.

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User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 24908 times:

Any idea what was the issue? It's been 7hrs already, has it left HYD since?


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User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3038 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 24744 times:

Finally EK has been granted the rights to land an A380 in India! 

Anyway, does anyone know what the issue was? And are there any other times the A380 has had to make an emergency landing, apart from QF's VH-OQA at SIN?

-CXfirst



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User currently offlinefreqflyer From India, joined Apr 2006, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 24438 times:

IIRC a DXB-SYD (or SYD-DXB) EK A380 also made an emergency landing, also in HYD. But I may be wrong.

No further info about the cause.


User currently offlineBoeingVista From Australia, joined Jan 2009, 1563 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 24422 times:

Quoting freqflyer (Reply 3):
No further info about the cause.

The now deleted thread said it was a hydraulic problem



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User currently offlineBestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7083 posts, RR: 57
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 24325 times:

Chennai too busy for an emergency?


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User currently offlineSOBHI51 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jun 2003, 3427 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 24311 times:
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Quoting freqflyer (Thread starter):
The aircraft first approached the Chennai airport but did not get clearance for landing as the runway was busy. The pilot then contacted Air Traffic Control at Shamshabad and got the clearance to land.


If a plane declares an emergency, doesn't ATC give her priority landing ?



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User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 24294 times:
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Quoting SOBHI51 (Reply 6):
If a plane declares an emergency, doesn't ATC give her priority landing ?

If one declared emergency, then you can basically do what you want. You don't request anything from ATC, you just inform what you do. Sure ATC will assist you and offer help as much as they can.
but of course if there was a runway closure or some other problem which makes it impossible to land there, you have to use another option.

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[Edited 2011-10-23 00:49:40]


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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4868 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 24272 times:

Quoting Bestwestern (Reply 5):
Chennai too busy for an emergency?

Not giving an emergency first priority to land is a concern if you ask me... Reminds me of the Avianca flight which declared an emergency and ended up crashing...

EK413



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User currently offlineAirvan00 From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 748 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 24190 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 8):

Not giving an emergency first priority to land is a concern if you ask me...

Don't get you kickers in a knot. Don't forget you are relying on a newspaper for your facts.


User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6138 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 24083 times:
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Quoting EK413 (Reply 8):
Not giving an emergency first priority to land is a concern if you ask me... Reminds me of the Avianca flight which declared an emergency and ended up crashing...

Precisely, the problem, among others, in that case was that although the Captain (for a variety of reasons better discussed in another thread) asked his FO to declare an emergency. The FO never did. But the Captain assumed that as he had given his FO the order, it had been carried out. Since it wasn´t, the plane, was vectored around as any other flight that night with a missed approach. Up to 20 miles from the outer marker. They never uttered the magic words: "Mayday, Mayday, Mayday, fuel emergency"

Thus, how they ended up.



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User currently offlinelhr380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 23915 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 8):
Reminds me of the Avianca flight which declared an emergency and ended up crashing...

If your talking about flight 52, they never actually said Mayday or fully let ATC know their fuel state, hence ATC routed them the way they did.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4868 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 20618 times:

Quoting Airvan00 (Reply 9):
Don't get you kickers in a knot. Don't forget you are relying on a newspaper for your facts.

Take a chill pill... There good for you...
If the newspaper is right or wrong it was an emergency and should've been given clearance...
Now if the report is false then have a go at the idiot which made the false statement...

Quoting AR385 (Reply 10):
Precisely, the problem, among others, in that case was that although the Captain (for a variety of reasons better discussed in another thread) asked his FO to declare an emergency. The FO never did. But the Captain assumed that as he had given his FO the order, it had been carried out. Since it wasn´t, the plane, was vectored around as any other flight that night with a missed approach. Up to 20 miles from the outer marker. They never uttered the magic words: "Mayday, Mayday, Mayday, fuel emergency"

Thus, how they ended up.
Quoting lhr380 (Reply 11):
If your talking about flight 52, they never actually said Mayday or fully let ATC know their fuel state, hence ATC routed them the way they did.

Is there a echo in here...?
I remember the crash and the investigation... Blame was the Captain not saying the words 'Mayday' I do recall that clearly...

EK413



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User currently offlineRaptor1090 From United Arab Emirates, joined May 2011, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 19169 times:

http://gulfnews.com/business/aviatio...ding-at-hyderabad-airport-1.915305

Another article with a bit more information. Interesting that this article says there were 410 pax on board.


User currently offlineAerosol From Germany, joined Oct 2000, 556 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 18678 times:

it is not the world largest airplane  

User currently offlinefpetrutiu From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 880 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 18529 times:

Is it just me or there are quite a few "snags" with the A380. A CRJ, a building, an engine blowing up, and now another "snag" that forces an emergency landing...

User currently onlinewolbo From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 485 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 18405 times:

Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 15):
Is it just me or there are quite a few "snags" with the A380. A CRJ, a building, an engine blowing up, and now another "snag" that forces an emergency landing...

It's just you seeing what you want to see.


User currently offline2175301 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 1036 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 18341 times:

Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 15):

Is it just me or there are quite a few "snags" with the A380. A CRJ, a building, an engine blowing up, and now another "snag" that forces an emergency landing...

Not really, all planes go through these kind of incidents. Since the A380 is still relatively new and it has a high press interest due to the investment and image minor and somewhat routine incidents get more press attention.

Add to that - now is the internet age. A decade or so ago most of the world would not have known about these kinds of incidents at all. Just local news (if they made the news at all).

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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4705 posts, RR: 38
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 18207 times:
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Quoting wolbo (Reply 16):
It's just you seeing what you want to see.

   And added to that is the level of attention the A380 still gets. What goes unnoticed with other planes is blown way-out-of-proportion when the A380 is involved.

Just look at the small incident ANA had with their B787. Sure, there was some media-buzzing over it. But not nearly as big as any minor incident on the A380, including the first incident when the SQ plane was pushed three meters to far which made for 1 axle to be in the grass as opposed to still on the tarmac.  


User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4705 posts, RR: 38
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 18207 times:
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Quoting 2175301 (Reply 17):
dd to that - now is the Internet age. A decade or so ago most of the world would not have known about these kinds of incidents at all

That is a very good point as well which I forgot to mention in my reply.  .


User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2671 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 16330 times:

Quoting fpetrutiu (Reply 15):
a few "snags" with the A380. A CRJ, a building,

Both examples were due to human error. There was nothing wrong with the A380 in either case.


User currently offlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1667 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 15073 times:

According to Aviation Herald, it was an Hydraulic problems.

User currently offlineVimanav From India, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 1516 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 14041 times:

Quoting freqflyer (Thread starter):
This is the second time that A380 has landed at Hyderabad.
Quoting freqflyer (Reply 3):
IIRC a DXB-SYD (or SYD-DXB) EK A380 also made an emergency landing, also in HYD. But I may be wrong.

No further info about the cause.

Its the 3rd time an A380 landed in HYD. The last one (due to a medical emergency) was on Thursday, 16JUN11.

brgds

Vimanav



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User currently offlineSevensixtyseven From United States of America, joined May 2011, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 12650 times:

Quoting lhr380 (Reply 11):

As I recall, the captain or FO asked for "priority" landing, and in Spanish (I do not speak any Spanish, so I would not personally know), the connotation on that word meant "emergency", however, the ATC did not take it as such, because they spoke English.



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User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6138 posts, RR: 30
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11276 times:
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Quoting Sevensixtyseven (Reply 23):
As I recall, the captain or FO asked for "priority" landing, and in Spanish (I do not speak any Spanish, so I would not personally know), the connotation on that word meant "emergency", however, the ATC did not take it as such, because they spoke English.

The Captain ordered him to declare "emergency" The first officer, who spoke much better English asked for "priority", as he fell intimidated by the NYC controllers. Of course there are other factors, as tunnel vision making the crew ignore the pleas from the FE that they were running out of fuel, like, really running out of fuel. Crew fatigue played a role too, as apparently the flight was handflown all the way from Colombia due to a malfunctioning autopilot (Boston), the diverting airport being in worst meteorological conditions than JFK, etc. and of course, the Go-Around.



MGGS
25 Airvan00 : Oh come on. Do you really believe that any air traffic controller in the world when hearing the words "Mayday Mayday Mayday" would not respond approp
26 lhr380 : Would you expect a pilot to not land and make way for a incoming emergency but ignore it and still land? It happens. Cant recall the incident but it
27 Post contains links Airvan00 : Yes I recall the incident and the sever consequences for the pilot and the airline. http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...ctions-after-safety-breach
28 Post contains images bthebest : So all EK has to do to gain A380 landing rights is 'declare an emergency' near the city they want to land at
29 spacecadet : Hydraulic failure, AV Herald doesn't specify what kind. But they imply that the runway issue was due to length; they couldn't land at the original run
30 comorin : One of the posters on AV Herald talks about "...an IDG failure on 3 engines" - what's an IDG? Thanks.
31 gr8circle : For an aircraft flying from BKK to DXB, MAA and HYD are almost equidistant, depending on where exactly they were at the time of declaring an emergenc
32 474218 : Integrated Drive Generator, supplies electrical power!
33 spacecadet : What would that knock out that would require a longer runway? Thrust reversers? Spoilers?
34 comorin : Thank you! That sounds serious enough...
35 billreid : The A380 will always get extra attention from the press due to size. Its the numbers that attracts the press, 500 pax is more interesting than a B737
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