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AF Swithces To A380 To LAX From May 2012  
User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2671 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 12309 times:

From May 30th 2012, AF will begin A380 service to LAX daily on AF066/065 flights


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User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4161 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 12279 times:

Was only a matter of time. A very popular and good yielding route for AF, with the number of daily flights making it a perfect candidate for A380 service.


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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1925 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 12176 times:

Will it be able to fit at T2?


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User currently offlinekamboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 12147 times:

Why not SFO? I just came back last week from BEY via CDG to SFO and it was a 774 completely full. Not a single empty seat. Last year on the same route was the same thing.

User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4161 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 12147 times:

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 2):

That was my next question!   we had to be towed on stand last time I visited!



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User currently offlineweb500sjc From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 727 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 11585 times:

I looked at the flight, and it looks like you can get Y+. when does AF get Y+ on the a380 - or when did they get it?


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User currently offlineaa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 11510 times:

Will LAX-PPT still continue to be a 777?


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User currently offlinetravelin man From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 11466 times:

Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 2):
Will it be able to fit at T2?

Yes, I didn't think T2 had any A380 capable gates. How is this going to work?


User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8283 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 11431 times:
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Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 2):
Will it be able to fit at T2?

IF there is a terminal that parts could be coverted into 2 A380 gates its Terminal 2. The gates at the corners of the terminal would be perfect.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24847 posts, RR: 46
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 11412 times:

T-2 will eventually have a single A380 compatible gate, however the work has not been funded.

As to what AF might do, see my comments below
Will Airlines Move At Klax Once Tbit Is Completed? (by mozart Oct 26 2011 in Civil Aviation)

Otherwise in the interim AF can utilize one of the jetway remotes (which are A380 capable) and bus the passengers.



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User currently offlineQANTAS747-438 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1925 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 11344 times:

Quoting travelin man (Reply 7):
Quoting QANTAS747-438 (Reply 2):
Will it be able to fit at T2?

Yes, I didn't think T2 had any A380 capable gates. How is this going to work?

No idea. Most planes need to be towed into their gates. The only think I can think of is that they put the 380 at the middle gate on the east side (don't know the number). VS often puts their A346 or 744 in that gate with plenty of room, however it means not being able to use the gates on either side.


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User currently offlineG500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 940 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 11154 times:
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So Air France will have 2 ddaily A380 flights to LAX, I agree it was a matter of time... I also think LH will make a similar announcement soon.

How does this announcement affect Air Tahiti?


User currently offlineAF Cabin Crew From French Polynesia, joined Sep 1999, 1038 posts, RR: 34
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 11106 times:
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The 380 will be parked at TBIT.

From the end of the year, all 380 will have Y+



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User currently offlineweb500sjc From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 727 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11041 times:

Quoting G500 (Reply 11):
So Air France will have 2 ddaily A380 flights to LAX,

no one arrival and one departure for the A380, I think the A380 is daily, and LAX service is 15x weekly, the other services are with 772s. looks like 3x week one of the 772 continue on to PPT, and 3x week a 772 will come back from PPT thru to CDG.

other news is AF will be dropping the 77W from LAX.

all the above info I gleaned from the AF website and

http://airlineroute.net/2011/10/27/af-lax-s12/

article states a380 will operate out of TBIT.

all in all AF CDG-LAX service looks like:

7x weekly A380
3x weekly 772 thru to PPT
5x weekly 772 only out and back from CDG

[edit] thank you to the post above fro answering my first question [end edit]

[Edited 2011-10-27 19:00:10]


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User currently offlineordjoe From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 691 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9723 times:

Quoting kamboi (Reply 3):

Why not SFO? I just came back last week from BEY via CDG to SFO and it was a 774 completely full. Not a single empty seat. Last year on the same route was the same thing.


SFO already gets A380sfrom LH and AF.


User currently offlineairproxx From France, joined Jun 2008, 627 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9714 times:

Quoting web500sjc (Reply 13):
all in all AF CDG-LAX service looks like:

7x weekly A380
3x weekly 772 thru to PPT
5x weekly 772 only out and back from CDG

Glad to read there's still a 777 service to LAX, so I can avoid flying the always late if not grounded A380...!



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User currently offlineastuteman From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 9977 posts, RR: 96
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9569 times:
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Quoting LY777 (Thread starter):
From May 30th 2012, AF will begin A380 service to LAX daily on AF066/065 flights

Is this another 773ER route being upgraded to an A380?

Quoting airproxx (Reply 15):
Glad to read there's still a 777 service to LAX, so I can avoid flying the always late if not grounded A380...!

Glad to read you're avoiding the A380. Means there's more room for all the rest of us  

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User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8283 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9399 times:
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I realize the TBIT has A380 capable gates but why wouldn't Air France and LAX modify a terminal 2 gate for A380's. Right now Qantas, Sinhapore Airlines and Korean fly A380's to LAX and soon more will. LAX needs to use other terminals for A380 beyond the TBIT.

User currently onlineGCT64 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 1367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9246 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 17):
LAX needs to use other terminals for A380 beyond the TBIT.

Having just got back to the UK from LAX, I was surprised to see how many A380s there were there. The Korean A380 (1st time I had seen it) is lovely.

But in terms of terminals, isn't it really only TBIT and T2?



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User currently offlinecharles79 From Puerto Rico, joined Mar 2007, 1330 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8186 times:

Quoting aa61hvy (Reply 6):
Will LAX-PPT still continue to be a 777?

As a poster above mentioned it will be but they'll loose First Class/La Premiere service. AF 076 (CDG-LAX-PPT) and AF 077 (PPT-LAX-CDG) will be operated with 772s in a 35C-24W-248Y configuration. The other 772 flt (AF 072/069) will keep the 4P cabin. AF must have realized that the need for extra Y capacity would yield greater results than 4P seats I guess.

Quoting AF Cabin Crew (Reply 12):
From the end of the year, all 380 will have Y+

Excellent! It's not nice when a station has to downgrade W passengers due to a last minute equipment change!


User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12892 posts, RR: 100
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8080 times:
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Finally seeing LAX become the A380 Mecca it has been destined to become. QF, SQ, KE, and now AF. Now we just need LH, CZ, and I'm sure once the A388 has the range EK.  
Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 1):
Was only a matter of time.

Agreed.

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 8):
IF there is a terminal that parts could be coverted into 2 A380 gates its Terminal 2. The gates at the corners of the terminal would be perfect.
Quoting web500sjc (Reply 13):
article states a380 will operate out of TBIT.

Ok, ignoring reality for a minute... I could see AF moving in with DL.    There are options. T2 is a private terminal, so there will have to be an 'arrangement' for an A380 gate. There is no reason a private terminal couldn't have the gate up and running by May.    I really hope T2 builds two A380 gates.    Ok, I read and comprehended what you posted... I think there is a chance for T2 (or T5) to win AF's business in the future. But for T2, there must be significantly more A380s delivered to build the business case for A380 gates.  


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User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8210 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7953 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 17):
I realize the TBIT has A380 capable gates but why wouldn't Air France and LAX modify a terminal 2 gate for A380's. Right now Qantas, Sinhapore Airlines and Korean fly A380's to LAX and soon more will. LAX needs to use other terminals for A380 beyond the TBIT.

After the major investment into the expansion of TBIT, what's the short term incentive for building A380 gates anywhere else?


User currently offlinesfjeff From El Salvador, joined Dec 2009, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7953 times:

Quoting ordjoe (Reply 14):
SFO already gets A380sfrom LH and AF.


The AF A380 service to SFO was seasonal from June 6 to September 4. The LH A380 service is also seasonal and ends this weekend. As far as I know, AF has not announced whether they will bring the A380 back to SFO next summer, but I am pretty sure that LH will.



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User currently offlineairproxx From France, joined Jun 2008, 627 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7903 times:

Quoting astuteman (Reply 16):
Glad to read you're avoiding the A380. Means there's more room for all the rest of us

I leave my seat to you very gladly  

Rgds



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User currently offlinegmcc From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 190 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7903 times:

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 20):
There are options. T2 is a private terminal, so there will have to be an 'arrangement' for an A380 gate. There is no reason a private terminal couldn't have the gate up and running by May. I really hope T2 builds two A380 gates

Actually I think LAWA regained control of T2 last year according to the following link

http://www.scpr.org/news/2010/04/19/...llow-lax-regain-control-terminal-/


25 LJ : Isn't this a capacity reduction on CDG-LAX? I thought that CDG-LAX was 20 times weekly this Summer (all with 777s).
26 Jacobin777 : From my years of spotting, AF switches to an A343 during the winter season. I think what's happening here is AF has gone from a B744 during the summe
27 LAXintl : Simple answer is $$$. As I stated in Reply 9, the eventual plans are to have an A380 capable gate at T-2, however work towards such has not commenced
28 jfk777 : While there is no short term incentuve to modify Terminal 2 into A380 capability, it should in the medium term. Terminal 2 is the best terminal at LA
29 YULWinterSkies : PPT has long been operated by the A340, which had no F. In fact, there used to be F on these as well before they got remodeled, so PPT F service has
30 Post contains images lightsaber : What I don't get (from your link): "All of that will help us establish a more even playing field for all of the airlines so that they all compete on
31 gmcc : In regards to T2 there is a very real possibility it and T1& 3 might get demolished under the current master plan if 24L gets moved to the south.
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