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New Vueling Flights From BCN  
User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6515 times:
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Hi there!

From last days of February, Vueling will start a dramatic expansion in Europe (mainly in France) with direct flights from Barcelona.

Aalborg, Brest, Cardiff (just commented in other post), Copenhagen, Stockholm Arlanda, Strasbourg, Florence, Groningen (from April 01st), Lyon, Marseille, Nice and presumably Southampton will be new destinations.

I understand cities as Copenhagen, Stockholm, Copenhagen, Florence, Lyon, Marseille and Nice but Aalborg?, Groningen? Brest?

And to operate to Florence, is the A320 capable to land there?

Your thoughts?

Regards,

Gerard


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User currently offlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5290 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6513 times:

The groningen airport runway is to be extended, and the manager held a press conference last week, stating that he wants GRQ to be a gateway to the world, meaning at least flights to 3 main hubs for connections.

This area of Holland, and nearby Germany is full of wealthy retired people, more and more businesses there that escapes the expensive west of Holland. Furthermore there are loads of Intl students in the large colleges and university that require travel, and Dutch students are known for going abroad a lot.


User currently offlineplanesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6473 times:

Do you mean Southampton in England as the runway is not large enough for an A320 as far as I am aware.

User currently offlineflycro From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 378 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6462 times:

SOU can easily accommodate B757 and A320. But I haven't seen it mentioned in Vuelings expansion. Flybe will be hacked off if it comes off.

User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3038 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6458 times:

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User currently offlineflycro From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 378 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6409 times:

If an A320 can reach Varna or Bourgas it can sure make BCN.
Is Vueling serious about SOU-BCN?


User currently offlineLIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6369 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Thread starter):
And to operate to Florence, is the A320 capable to land there?

180-seats-aircraft taking-off from FLR is something that never happened before AFAIN.


User currently offlineairbuseric From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 4277 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6331 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 1):

The groningen airport runway is to be extended, and the manager held a press conference last week, stating that he wants GRQ to be a gateway to the world, meaning at least flights to 3 main hubs for connections.

Well, buzz/Ryanair couldn't keep a daily BAe146/B733 service to London alive. So, why would BCN attract even more passengers from GRQ. It's hard to believe that this route will become a success, but I really hope that they will succeed!



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User currently offlineplanesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6249 times:

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 4):

Never realised that, always thought the runway was too short, especially since airlines with that size aircraft have always ended up at Bournemouth and only BA Connect and Flybe have really flown from Southampton.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11701 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6140 times:

Don't forget that Vueling also operate the A319 now, which may be a better fit for some of these routes and airports. I believe more will be cascaded down from Iberia in the coming years.


Dan  



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User currently offlineRAFVC10 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 1980 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6043 times:
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Quoting planesailing (Reply 2):
Do you mean Southampton in England as the runway is not large enough for an A320 as far as I am aware.

No, I did not mention SOU as not capable to take A320 flights... I said FLR.

Quoting flycro (Reply 5):
Is Vueling serious about SOU-BCN?

Seems that will be come true next week.

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 9):
Don't forget that Vueling also operate the A319 now, which may be a better fit for some of these routes and airports. I believe more will be cascaded down from Iberia in the coming years.

Hi Dan,

seems that VY have returned the 319 to IB.

Regards,

Gerard



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11701 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5923 times:

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 10):
seems that VY have returned the 319 to IB.

   IB really can't make a decision and stick to it these days. They only just got it.


Dan  



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User currently offlinephotoshooter From Belgium, joined Feb 2010, 455 posts, RR: 20
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 5639 times:
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GRQ? that's madness.... They should have opened BCN-EIN, EIN has the capacity, many passengers, The Netherlands' second largest airport and is growing pretty fast. Makes me wonder if they did some research.


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19258 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5317 times:

Quoting photoshooter (Reply 12):

GRQ? that's madness.... They should have opened BCN-EIN, EIN has the capacity, many passengers, The Netherlands' second largest airport and is growing pretty fast. Makes me wonder if they did some research.

EIN already has HV to BCN and FR to GRO. It undoubtedly doesn't require another operator.

"Makes me wonder if they did some research" indeed.  

Anyway, back to GRQ: per its entry on www.therouteshop.com and based on MIDT and ICAO data stated therein, the airport expects up to 40,000/annum to/from BCN.



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User currently offlineredhair From Spain, joined Apr 2011, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5251 times:

Quoting flycro (Reply 5):
Is Vueling serious about SOU-BCN?

Don't know if there's a long term commitment but at least for a few months it should be...

Quoting RAFVC10 (Reply 10):
Hi Dan,

seems that VY have returned the 319 to IB.

FLR is feasible with A319 and BCNFLR is bookable so there's going to be a A319 coming

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 13):
"Makes me wonder if they did some research" indeed.

Research is done   but just like SOU


It's really exciting to see so many new destinations from BCN but schedule is not always the best. Hope biggest cities will last during W12 also!


User currently offlineSASMD82 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 798 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4899 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 1):
GRQ to be a gateway to the world

Hahaha! He must be kidding!!!   I think this route will last for a very short periode. EIN or MST would have been more logical (much larger target group). BTW. I thought that the runway is too short for A320s and B737s (all HV charter flights make a fuel stop in EIN or MST because the runway in GRQ is too short).


User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3185 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4892 times:

Quoting airbuseric (Reply 7):
Well, buzz/Ryanair couldn't keep a daily BAe146/B733 service to London alive. So, why would BCN attract even more passengers from GRQ. It's hard to believe that this route will become a success, but I really hope that they will succeed!

Well, FR couldn't make MST-STN work, but they seem to have good success with routes to Spain and Italy.

The (proposed) summer-only 2-weekly flight to BCN could well become a success, at least if they're able to take off with all 180 seats.

Is the short-field performance of the A320 superior to the 738?


User currently offlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5290 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4693 times:

I think the BCN-GRQ will work. There is a direct buslink as well between Bremen airport and Groningen airport via both city centers. Already a lot of Dutch people use the FR base there in BRE. Many of them have second homes in Spain, or spend the wintermonths there.

User currently offlineLifelinerOne From Netherlands, joined Nov 2003, 1938 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4688 times:

Quoting Joost (Reply 16):
The (proposed) summer-only 2-weekly flight to BCN could well become a success, at least if they're able to take off with all 180 seats.

Is the short-field performance of the A320 superior to the 738?

They could also use their A319's for the flights to Groningen, which I expect them to do.

Cheers!   



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User currently offlineBY738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4538 times:

Suspect CWL will be a one season wonder

User currently offlinegkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4396 times:

Quoting BY738 (Reply 19):

I'd imagine that it'd do a lot better than the Helvetic CWL-ZRH flight!



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User currently offlinephotoshooter From Belgium, joined Feb 2010, 455 posts, RR: 20
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4319 times:
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Quoting redhair (Reply 14):
Research is done but just like SOU

Well I'd guess that it's better to compete with other airlines, offering sharp prices to BCN. Since all low cost airlines will move to LEY or EIN in the near future, why the hell would they fly to Groningen with more cattle than people? Are Spanish people really interested in Groningen? Groningen is nice but I think Eindhoven has more to offer.



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19258 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4303 times:

Quoting photoshooter (Reply 21):
Are Spanish people really interested in Groningen?
BCN-GRQ will no doubt almost exclusively cater for GRQ-originating passengers. GRQ itself, per www.therouteshop.com and MIDT and ICAO data, anticipate up to 40,000 passengers per year on GRQ-BCN. As Joost said, a proposed summer-only, twice-weekly service to BCN should, in theory, probably be fine.

[Edited 2011-10-30 06:54:11]


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User currently offlineAvi8 From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 700 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4268 times:
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How many aircraft are they receiving? What will be the frequencies for those routes?


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User currently onlineairkas1 From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 4028 posts, RR: 55
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4007 times:

I have good hopes that the route to GRQ will become succesfull. Twice a week is a nice frequency and it gives people the opportunity to go to BCN for just a few days, like a city trip. The airport has had the same amount of destinations to offer for a couple of years now and I know for a fact that a lot of people will be interested in a (short) holiday to Barcelona (which hasn't been offered yet). The flights will commence on April 28, on the Saturdays and Tuesdays.

Quoting SASMD82 (Reply 15):
I thought that the runway is too short for A320s and B737s (all HV charter flights make a fuel stop in EIN or MST because the runway in GRQ is too short).

The runway is now 1800m, which should be sufficient for non-stop BCN. There are also non-stop flights to FAO, AYT (summer), AGP for example, all operated by B737's and Airbus A32S's. The other flights (operated by Transavia) are part of a triangle and therefor stop at either EIN, RTM or MST. It's not purely a fuel stop, it's also for pax.

Anyway, time will tell!

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Regarding the runway extension:
The Raad van State will take a decision about the project NOV 3rd and hopefully they will rule in favor of it. A small group of people has been complaining and succesfully holding it back for 30 years now and it's time for them to quit.


25 rutankrd : EC-JXJ is STILL WITH Vueling Today operating from Toulouse-Barcelona - Toulouse - Lille- Toulouse- Venice-Toulouse Aircraft is based at Toulouse norm
26 european742 : I hope the SOU-BCN flight does happen, be nice to see another airline here! So bored of BE! Don't forget VY also offer connections so I imagine it bei
27 RAFVC10 : OK! Let's add another new destination operated by Vueling from Barcelona beginning February 25, 2012: Munich The end of the monopoly of Star Alliance
28 RAFVC10 : Sincerely, Munich is great but I prefer a flight to FRA... Actually only Lufthansa flies from BCN to FRA.
29 r2rho : Agree, its an exotic route but the schedule is appropriate. I think VY can gain a lot by serving secondary destinations that may not work for legacy
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