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What's Up With The Flybe E-175s?  
User currently offlinezipsy From UK - England, joined Jul 2010, 56 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 9059 times:

Still no E-175s with Flybe.I was hoping to fly on the new jet this Wednedsay but looks like the old Q400 again.When will they get them at last?

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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12411 posts, RR: 37
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 8929 times:

Yes, I keep wondering that myself! They should have been delivered about two months ago. Last I heard was that because BE was trying to put in place a large financial package and lawyers on both sides were going through the contracts line by line. However, that was quite a while ago.

Other rumours speak of modifications which needed CAA approval, but I can't think that this would cause such a delay, especially since the airline has already had E-195s for some time and presumably any mods would not be much different from those already in these aircraft.


User currently offlineRubberJungle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8720 times:

I spoke with the guy who's handling this only last week.

He said the delay is because Embraer has structured a deal to take the first 20 aircraft as a package, with financing supported by the Brazilian BNDES bank. Flybe is putting down a 15% deposit, and said it has secured the other 85% of the funding. But the nature of the package means there's a lot of paperwork involved, and it's taking longer than Flybe wanted. The other 15 will also be structured as a package, apparently.


User currently offlineRebelDJ From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 112 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 8588 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 1):
Other rumours speak of modifications which needed CAA approval,

This can't be the reason because there is no separate approval for each EASA country any more. Once the aircraft has a type certificate from EASA, then the aircraft is certified for all the EASA countries.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11617 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 8445 times:

There was a statement recently which said they would be arriving in Q3 2011/2012. That's a pretty significant delay really; 6 months just due to paperwork. Personally I have my doubts that is the sole/real reason.


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User currently offlineplanesailing From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 8306 times:

I happened to cast my eyes over a winter schedule for LGW the other day and it had noted down the scheduled operating type as E175. As the winter schedule starts tomorrow, I guess Flybe was planning on having the aircraft in place.

User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8280 times:
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Are those E175 meant to replace the Q400 or are they an addition to the fleet as they can fly longer routes than the Q400?

If they are an addition, Flybe will be a huge airline with 150-ish aircraft. Impressive!



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User currently offlineAvi8 From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8147 times:

I assume the E-Jets will replace the oldest Q400's and also to increase frequencies on current markets and a few destinations. I was trying to book a flight with them and they have good flight times (speaking of one day of the week) but poor flying days as most destinations don't have daily service. I wonder if having such a small fleet all spread out is profitable. (I mean small compared to Esay Jet and such airlines)


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User currently offlineGCT64 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 1372 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 7891 times:

Quoting Avi8 (Reply 7):
I was trying to book a flight with them and they have good flight times (speaking of one day of the week) but poor flying days as most destinations don't have daily service.

That depends very much on the route (and presumably on the demand for that route). On EDI-BHX or EDI-SOU, for example, they operate up to 7 times / day each way, so there is no shortage of frequency or choice.



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User currently offlinebmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1798 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5996 times:

Quoting planesailing (Reply 5):
I happened to cast my eyes over a winter schedule for LGW the other day and it had noted down the scheduled operating type as E175. As the winter schedule starts tomorrow, I guess Flybe was planning on having the aircraft in place.

They've appeared many times in the schedules, but because of the continuous delays they've been subbed/changed to Q400/E195s in the system. So the above doesn't mean much, sadly.

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 6):
Are those E175 meant to replace the Q400 or are they an addition to the fleet as they can fly longer routes than the Q400?

A mixture really, seven Q400s have left the fleet over the past few months, so the initial aircraft will indirectly replace these.


User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 3920 times:

Quoting bmibaby737 (Reply 9):

A mixture really, seven Q400s have left the fleet

Do you know by any chance what the registrations were for the 7 aircraft whcih left?



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User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7481 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 5 days ago) and read 3876 times:

http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Flybe-stored-dh8.htm

http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Flybe-history-dh8.htm

These might help.


User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3755 times:

Quoting bennett123 (Reply 11):
These might help.

Cheers mate.  



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User currently offlineplanemaker From Tuvalu, joined Aug 2003, 6126 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2949 times:

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 6):
Are those E175 meant to replace the Q400 or are they an addition to the fleet as they can fly longer routes than the Q400?

From AW&ST Commercial Aviation Blog:

How the Embraer E175 Became Flybe's Newest Turboprop

Quote:
As Flybe looked at candidate aircraft to buy, it was interested in Bombardier’s Q400X concept, but the plans for that product were not solid and nor was the fielding timeline. The other turboprops that were considered, the ATR 72-500s and 72-600s, were deemed too slow, particularly to operate out of some of the airports with tight curfews restrictions serviced by Flybe, such as Southampton.
http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/blogs...=blogScript&plckElementId=blogDest



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