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HK Airlines Eyes QF A380 Slots  
User currently offlinesolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 850 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7611 times:

Hopefully we´ll see this coming throu

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...nes-eyes-qantas-a380-slots-364313/


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User currently offlineBurkhard From Germany, joined Nov 2006, 4384 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7574 times:

Two have already gone to LH, but four still are available as far as we think to know...

User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6863 posts, RR: 63
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7559 times:

"...to be delivered between 2018 and 2012."

Glad to see the Flight's sub-editors are on the ball as always. 

But the news is not unexpected and it is A GOOD THING. Qantas don't need these planes these days but sundry Chinese airlines probably do. For what it's worth, I assume these aren't in addition to the ten widely-rumoured to have been (kind of) ordered earlier this year but just a jump up the queue.


User currently offlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3306 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7505 times:

First they should firm up their order....

User currently offlinesolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7473 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 3):
First they should firm up their order....

Maybe on the Dubai Air Show?   



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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2686 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7355 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 3):
First they should firm up their order....

Exactly what I thought. From the outside it looks a little bit childish: I want these big toys! I want them now! ... but I don't want to confirm my order.


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6863 posts, RR: 63
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 7305 times:

Quoting N14AZ (Reply 5):
From the outside it looks a little bit childish: I want these big toys! I want them now! ... but I don't want to confirm my order.

I'm sure the airline wants to confirm as soon as possible. But I assume that Beijing is holding them back.


User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3373 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 7207 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 3):
First they should firm up their order....
Quoting PM (Reply 6):

I'm sure the airline wants to confirm as soon as possible. But I assume that Beijing is holding them back.

My guess on this is that could well be the case - it woulf be unusual recently for an order for a Chinese carrier to be announced by the airline before it was announced as part of a larger order by CASSG (might of spelt that wrong!).


User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3373 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 7157 times:

From the linked article:

"Sources later told Flightglobal the customer was Hong Kong Airlines, although neither the carrier nor the airframer confirmed the information."

Were the sources maybe the sticker on the side of the demo A380 that you could see "Hong Kong Airlines" clearly through 


User currently offlineabba From Denmark, joined Jun 2005, 1329 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 7015 times:

Quoting scouseflyer (Reply 7):
My guess on this is that could well be the case - it woulf be unusual recently for an order for a Chinese carrier to be announced by the airline before it was announced as part of a larger order by CASSG (might of spelt that wrong!).



There are often also political considerations involved in Chinese announcements of aircraft purchases. Often it will be done in relation to state visits either by European leaders in China or by Chinese leaders in Europe (when it is Boeing it is the US of cause). This should not be forgotten either!

However, is Hong Kong Airlines under mainland control in these matters or does the principle of "one nation two systems" apply here?


User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3733 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 5694 times:

Quoting abba (Reply 9):
or does the principle of "one nation two systems" apply here?

That principle is becoming more of an vague slogan than a reality for anything in HK...

In any case, HK airline is firmly dependent on mainland funds from Hainan airlines.

Just a few years ago, HKA was struggling to barely maintain a few 737's worth of an operation up and running, and I'm still unconvinced they can effectively grow into a successful widebody operator, let alone an A380 operator. Of course, their future very much depends on Hainan airlines, who might just use those birds if HKA doesn't deliver.



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