airbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 7492 posts, RR: 11 Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 5355 times:
I think it's funny that anyone would think that the phone is a cool feature when pretty much every plane used to have those in every class of service until about 10-15 years ago and it was removed for lack of use
planejamie From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2011, 576 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4764 times:
Eugh, Emirates... the fact is this is only avaliable on the A380. The 777 business class is pretty awful compared to other airlines 2-3-2 layout. The A330 business class is even worse. It seems the lower down the fleet you go in size, the crappier the business class gets. The only good thing I can think of with my first (and last) experience with EK was the IFE was very good. The crew, the seat (okay, I was in Economy - it was too narrow, the pitch was average and the seat wasn't the comfiest), Emirates's attitude to other countries and the fact that they pretty much bully their way through the world and the way they treat their migrant workers has made me completely avoid them. They are at the top of my "airlines to never never never never fly" list.
Okay, rant over (got a little off topic there) - whilst the A380 is "cool", I dunno, EK's product just seems a bit behind - I mean, many airlines had full flat seats years ago and pretty much most carriers have the in-seat phone, just no one ever uses it as it costs loads!
rohanghosh From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 48 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4590 times:
"The bed looked wonderful, far better than most lie-flat setups. Sheets make a difference!"....and the best thing is - one of the crew members come and make the bed for you LOL. that is effing brilliant ha.
On an off topic, I am going to try fly a different airlines this time - anyone has any preference, my choices are Lufthansa, Qatar and JetAirway (JFK - India).
PEET7G From Hungary, joined Jan 2007, 695 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3754 times:
I think the guy is just blinded by all the blinging in BC. Actually EK's business class on their A380s is one of the worst of all "new gen" business classes out there. I even prefer the 2-3-2 version on their 777s, as the seats are much more confy, much-much wider, and you are not being "boxed in" into a tight space that is no wider than what you get on an SQ ECO class. The worst is when you get an aisle seat, the wall beside you and the thin seat makes you feel as if you are sitting in the middle of the aisle. the only bearable seats are the window seats (with those useless windows) or when you are traveling along with someone then go for the 2 middle seats... My opinion is that there are way better products out there QR, UA, etc...even their own product on their 777s, and not to mention the SQ Business product.
As did EK. The lie flat seat is nothing new to Emirates. I must admit I found it a little cramped on the EK A380j cabin. On the contrary, i have never had a more plesent flight than on the F suite on EK.
planejamie From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2011, 576 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3024 times:
Quoting PEET7G (Reply 8): My opinion is that there are way better products out there QR, UA, etc...even their own product on their 777s, and not to mention the SQ Business product.
When I fly Business, I don't want to be stuck in a middle seat between two people, that makes me feel more like Economy plus - that's why I avoid 2-3-2 seating. I've always found BA's seat (though maybe not as wide) to be far more private, comfortable and easier to get in/out of (even if you have to sit backwards in some of them!)
SQ looks very good for Business class, I'd even say one of the best, as does LX and even the new DL 180o flat seats. Though, UA looks a little squashed, seatguru makes it look like it's 2-4-2 and sitting backwards in some seats, forwards in others, though it gets good reviews, so something must be right!
Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 9): EK has a 2-3-2 layout in J and whilst some other airlines offer a more spacious J cabin, I think the EK product is very good value for money.
I wouldn't mind if it was any cheaper, but it's not these days! If anything, they're a bit pricey! It's like you're paying for over-blingy fake gold and dark wood panelling, it's far too over the top in my opinion...
Quoting rohanghosh (Reply 6): On an off topic, I am going to try fly a different airlines this time - anyone has any preference, my choices are Lufthansa, Qatar and JetAirway (JFK - India).
I'd say Qatar or Jet Airways, mainly down to the product. Nothing against lufthansa, in fact, the aircraft might be more interesting (if you're on an A340). In Economy, they're all about on par, but in Business, QR and Jet have full flat beds, which LH don't (they have the slanted flat beds)
dfambro From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 293 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2822 times:
Quoting planejamie (Reply 10): UA looks a little squashed, seatguru makes it look like it's 2-4-2 and sitting backwards in some seats, forwards in others, though it gets good reviews, so something must be right!
Yes, it's definitely 2-4-2. They do a remarkable job of using the space efficiently and I find it to be a very comfortable seat (having slept in it several times). It is a little cozy, though, and I'm glad I've always been able to get an aisle. It's a very good product but not the most spacious.
As for sitting backwards, it doesn't bother me a bit. And I'm otherwise very picky about my seats!
1, I didn't want to have a go at you, sorry and please appologise... I simply am getting tired of all the things around this forum, that if it aint A380, then it aint good anymore...I probabliy just ran over the posts and the video...in fact I didn't even realise the video was yours...sorry again...
2, Yes we in Hungary do have excellent choices to pick from
rohanghosh From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 48 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2256 times:
Quoting PEET7G (Reply 13): that if it aint A380, then it aint good anymore
That's fine, no need for apologies, I love the community here so its all good.
Also, in all honesty, no other planes offers me a lounge with a bar atmosphere than the A380, nor does any other aircraft give me my own personal bar, nor does any other airline give me my own portable tv to roam the aircraft around with. LOL..cheers
I agree about the bar, but not the seats, and got to agree on your opinion about EK (their overall business service is still one of the best out there) In fact I will be boarding the next EK A380 for HKG tonight, with the not so loved Business config but as the saying goes we are not common with our preferences and that's fine
I am not a fan of the "boxed in" method and EK offers a very thin one on their A380s. For example I really like the BA type of "private boxes" and EY also managed to put something less "claustrophobic" on their fleet.
Just for example, now I am flying with my spouse, and it was much more convenient on the 77W sitting in the double near the window and the aisle, than it will be now with 2 window seats behind each other (not really a fan of the double middle seats either). She is a great example how the overall "wow factor" of the A380 leaves many untouched. She specifically asks me to avoid it whenever possible. The only reason we are not flying the direct 77W flight to HKG now is that we have to stop for a day to see how the BKK office is dealing with the floods. Of course as I said, no one is the same
Just my 2 cents there
Quoting planejamie (Reply 10): I don't want to be stuck in a middle seat between two people
That is the most unlikely scenario to be stuck in a middle seat... I fly over 20 segments/year in and out of DXB to all over the world, but never was I forced to sit in that middle seat. Just check in early or remember to pre select your seats on-line... to my experience the middle seats are either always empty, or filled up with upgraded passengers or with people who don't even care to ask...to my experience for example row 11 "windowless window seats" on the 77W and 773 also usually get upgraded passengers. So what I try to imply is that you have to get really unlukcy to get that dreaded middle seat in Business Class on EK