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Pan Am 747 Routing Patterns?  
User currently offline747buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 742 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3927 times:

Howdy folks,

If anyone out there knows, did PA 747s have a tendency to fly certain routes frequently, or was there some variation from time to time?

For example, I was just looking at some YouTube vids of PA 747s in GIG, and the "Clipper Beacon Light" was featured in most, if not all of them. And looking at pics on here of the infamous "Maid of the Seas" the bulk of them were taken at LHR or FRA. In fact I remember as a child, seeing the sad photo of her nose in the field and thinking about all the wonderful places she must have flown over the years.

And, during the days of the Pacific Routes, would a 747-100 fly from Europe to JFK, then to LAX or SFO and onto maybe HNL or NRT? I know there was the RTW flight which ended in the early 80s, but I am thinking more mid to late 80s.

I sincerely appreciate any answers, as I have wondered about this from time to time over the years.

-Andrew

[Edited 2011-11-06 14:31:34]


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User currently offlinespartanmjf From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 499 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3709 times:

With a large but nonetheless fairly limited fleet of 747 aircraft, I would presume PA aircraft could be seen running routes on a regular basis. N739PA, for example, arrived in LHR from [I believe] SFO before it operated the ill-fated PA103.


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User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3684 times:

I flew PanAM in July of 1990. The routing of the 747 was as follows: Televiv, Paris, JFK, MIA, Panamá City.

User currently offlineRogerThat From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3380 times:

Autumn 1983, I flew home from Frankfurt on a Pan Am B747. The entire routing for that aircraft that day: KHI-FRA-LHR-LAX. Back then, it never occured to me to snatch a pic of the nose and I could kick myself.

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25139 posts, RR: 46
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3344 times:

Well remember Pan Am had some different fleet variations.

For example in the late 1980s, Pan Am had two 747 cabin configuration. A high premium cabin version which IIRC was about 6-framed and served virtually exclusively the deep-South American network, and the regular version which had a higher Y class count.

Also PA had both -100s and -200s. They tried to schedule when possible the -200s on some of the longer segments such as LAX-FRA and on other markets where the -100s tended to take performance hits -- such as FCO(high temperatures) or ZRH (climb performance) back to JFK.



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User currently offline747buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 742 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3177 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 4):

Also PA had both -100s and -200s.

Oh yes, I forgot to mention the 200s. I remember reading somewhere that there were performance issues on the non-SP TPAC routes, so wasn't that also part of the reason they were acquired?



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User currently offlineglobalflyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 926 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2857 times:

I flew PA110 in 1980. The routing was: JFK-FCO-IST (it used to continue to THR before the overthrow).


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User currently offlinejpyvr From Canada, joined Jan 2000, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 2772 times:

Sometime in the mid-70s, I flew from SFO to GIG on a PA 747 (what version I have no idea, as in those days I didn't pay much attention to that sort of thing). The route, in both directions, was SFO-LAX-GUA-CCS-GIG and vice versa.

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