kl692 From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 651 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2632 times:
is KL going once daily at YYZ. I just notice their beautiful B747 touch on 23 around 4:30 and it was to arrive at 3:35 which used to be the old arrival time for this flight until they went twice daily. Can anyone confirm this form me.
kl692 From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 651 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2441 times:
Quoting something (Reply 1): It's a daily flight and was 42mins. delayed today. Nothing worthy of note, really.
Wasn't KL serving YYZ twice daily with 691 arriving 11 in the morning and 695 arriving 7 in the evening? Just wondering if they are now serving YYZ once daily. Anyways I couldn't find 695 on flightstats today so I am guessing they went back to once daily.
kl692 From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 651 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2424 times:
And Perhaps with WestJet feeding them pax from YYZ to YUL and onwards, They might just end up serving YYZ once daily as I am their flight from YUL is now getting fill up.
ac033 From Hong Kong, joined Jun 2008, 107 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2365 times:
Quoting kl692 (Reply 4): And Perhaps with WestJet feeding them pax from YYZ to YUL and onwards, They might just end up serving YYZ once daily as I am their flight from YUL is now getting fill up.
They do this every winter, nothing special. And i have no idea what you are saying
KLAXAirport From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 118 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2278 times:
Is this route a "successful" one? Is that big of a route to use a 747 on?
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kl692 From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 651 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2113 times:
Quoting KLAXAirport (Reply 7): Is this route a "successful" one? Is that big of a route to use a 747 on?
I Have been on 691, 692 and 696 and trust me the plane was about 95 percent full. I know they are doing very well on this route which is why I was bit suprise to see them going once daily. but I am seeing 695/696 for booking in March next year. As for my reason for asking this question was due to fact that I am planning a trip ACC which will see me fly all the long and medium hual A/C KL have. this flights will operate by B777, MD11, A330 and my fav of all B747.
Exactly. Summer will see double daily again.
Quoting brilondon (Reply 8):
KL has been flying the 744 daily for years to YYZ,
Not quite. Last summer, it was 13x weekly, with a mix of B744, A332 and B772
KL691/692 332 x4
KL695/696 74M x357 772 357
Thenoflyzone
Sorry, I don't live there any more and I try to keep up on what is going on in Canada, but sometimes it is a little hard to do.
Although with the 772, I would like to go with that one instead of the A332. I don't find the A330's to be as nice to fly in as the Boeing long haul aircraft.
DCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4402 posts, RR: 38 Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 1600 times:
Quoting brilondon (Reply 8): KL has been flying the 744 daily for years to YYZ, I have never been on one that had many seats left over but I don't fly as often as I use to.
I remember seeing a KL 742 (or possibly 741) at YYZ in the winter of 1982, then a tag on AMS-YUL-YYZ.
Ychocky From Canada, joined Jul 2009, 164 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1528 times:
It's often commented that the route is not large enough to fill that daily 747, however it is mix of Combi and Regular aircraft.
The 5 full size 747's are 42/36/337 and the 17 Combis have 140 less seats at 42/36/197
KLM has a flexible fleet and a route structure that allows them to swap out the Combis and vice-versa. Just yesterday PH-BFU subbed for the MD-11 on KL671.
I traveled on KL691 with PH-BFG "City of Guayaquil" last February and economy was oversold.
mk777 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1186 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1344 times:
Quoting Ychocky (Reply 13): The 5 full size 747's are 42/36/337 and the 17 Combis have 140 less seats at 42/36/197
can you tell me the registrations of the 5 full pax version??
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21448 posts, RR: 24 Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1120 times:
Quoting Ychocky (Reply 13): The 5 full size 747's are 42/36/337 and the 17 Combis have 140 less seats at 42/36/197
They converted a 74M to all-passenger configuration a couple of years ago so they now operate 6 all-passenger and 16 as combis, at least that's what appears in their fleet data in their current inflight magazine.
flightsimboy From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 848 posts, RR: 4 Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1114 times:
KLM is now flying just one daily flight which is an afternoon arrival (which is what their old schedule bascially was). These were previously morning arrivals around 1130 and departures in the evening.
They also had late evening arrivals and departures (I believe five days a week) but those have now been cancelled.
Ychocky From Canada, joined Jul 2009, 164 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1105 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 16): They converted a 74M to all-passenger configuration a couple of years ago so they now operate 6 all-passenger and 16 as combis, at least that's what appears in their fleet data in their current inflight magazine.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21448 posts, RR: 24 Reply 19, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1073 times:
Quoting Ychocky (Reply 18): Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 16):
They converted a 74M to all-passenger configuration a couple of years ago so they now operate 6 all-passenger and 16 as combis, at least that's what appears in their fleet data in their current inflight magazine.
Oh cool, will have to dig to find out the regs
PH-BFH, "City of Hong Kong" (in KLM Asia livery) is the combi that is now operating in all-passenger configuration.
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