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User currently offlineSkydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 969 posts, RR: 10
Posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2939 times:

Typical situation, the radio played a song I haven't heard in more than 20 years, so I searched Google with parts of the lyrics to identify the artist and song title... what I find next, the video is on YouTube.

Looks to me like parts of this video were filmed in the abandoned Surfridge neighborhood to the West of LAX. It's been years since I've driven west of LAX to the Dockweiler beach area, so I can't be certain, but I believe it looked like this. Can anyone can confirm if I am right or wrong?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVj1m8uy5AM&ob=av2e

KLM's N1295E also makes a brief appearance later in the video.

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Photo © Frank C. Duarte Jr.





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User currently offlineiahflyer From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 319 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2935 times:

This area makes another appearence in the new movie "InTime."


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User currently offlinen505fx From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 269 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2726 times:

you are correct, that is the abandoned neighborhood just west of of pershing drive

User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2099 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2457 times:

Yep, that's Surfridge. Nice to see LAWA is so concerned about those butterflies that they let a film crew traipse around up there.   Pre-9/11 you used to be able to drive up there on a couple of the roads that connect Pershing Drive to Vista del Mar.

By the way, if anyone wants to read some interesting history and see some old photos on Surfridge, go here: http://www.lakata.org/arch/surfridge/


User currently offlineSkydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 969 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2259 times:

Quoting chrisair (Reply 3):
Yep, that's Surfridge. Nice to see LAWA is so concerned about those butterflies that they let a film crew traipse around up there.

Maybe when the music video was filmed in 1985 the legislation had not been passed to use the Surfridge area as a nature reserve?

Quoting chrisair (Reply 3):
By the way, if anyone wants to read some interesting history and see some old photos on Surfridge, go here: http://www.lakata.org/arch/surfridge/

Thanks for the link, excellent information. Sad that people were forced to leave that neighborhood, even if they didn't mind the airplane noise and enjoyed the location.




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User currently offlinenutsaboutplanes From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 496 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2197 times:

Isn't that a 747-300? The photo says its a 200.

[Edited 2011-11-08 18:33:01]


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User currently offlineSkydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 969 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2153 times:

Quoting nutsaboutplanes (Reply 5):
Isn't that a 747-300? The photo says its a 200.

Started life as a 747-200, converted to -200(SUD) in 1984 according to the remarks for the photo on the left. The view of N1295E takeoff in the video is likely only months after the conversion to SUD, but from the angle it is impossible to tell.

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Photo © Darrel W. Duarte

Same airplane in both photos!




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User currently offlinenutsaboutplanes From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 496 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2105 times:

I had no idea that they did that to 747's.........after 20+ years of being an commercial aircraft enthusiast.......this is the first that I have heard of a 742 upper deck conversion program!

Guess you never stop learning  



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User currently offlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1341 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2033 times:

Quoting nutsaboutplanes (Reply 7):
I had no idea that they did that to 747's.........after 20+ years of being an commercial aircraft enthusiast.......this is the first that I have heard of a 742 upper deck conversion program!

Guess you never stop learning

Not many frames were converted in this way. I've only heard of UTA and KLM doing it. But maybe there were other customers, and it's my chance to keep learning.  

EDIT: Wait, just remembered JL did it too.

[Edited 2011-11-08 20:49:43]

User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2099 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1905 times:

Quoting Skydrol (Reply 4):
Maybe when the music video was filmed in 1985 the legislation had not been passed to use the Surfridge area as a nature reserve?

Well that would probably explain it. Seeing how I am not a 1980s R&B connoisseur, I probably should have read the video description. 


User currently offlineB737-112 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 885 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

nutsaboutplanes, you're not the only one, trust me! The video below caused this issue to pop up in the comments and created a mess.

Her full designation was Boeing 747-206BM(SUD)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiwB06_hj-k


User currently offlinenutsaboutplanes From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 496 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1733 times:

That is funny, I love youtube arguments.....people get so heated!

I had no idea that this program ever existed and would not have thought that it was structurally possible (then again look at the Dreamlifter).

I really appreciate you taking the time to look up this video, this has been bugging me for a couple of days.....I know it shouldn't but it does.....I feel like an amateur   



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User currently offlineaa61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1651 times:

I lived in El Segundo for a year then Playa Del Rey for a year, drove past this area daily on my way to work. I was told it was supposed to be a neighborhood, but the idea was scrapped when the real estate developers had the wise idea not everyone would have enjoyed living 1,000 feet off of RWY 24/7. Then they opted to eventually turn it into a 'sanctuary' of sorts.


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User currently offlinejohns624 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 921 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1636 times:

Well, that was 4 minutes of my life that I'll never get back...   

User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2099 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1467 times:

Quoting aa61hvy (Reply 12):
I was told it was supposed to be a neighborhood

It was a neighborhood. An ex girlfriend's mother grew up in there. Photos of the neighborhood (if you don't believe me) are linked here: http://faculty.ucr.edu/~divola/WEB%2...rs/LAX%20Ext.%20Hi%20Res/index.htm


User currently offlinenutsaboutplanes From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 496 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1458 times:

Wow, nice neighborhood   

I think you have another picture of the KLM 742 in picture 1061.....wonder if its the same plane!



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User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2099 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1426 times:

Quoting nutsaboutplanes (Reply 15):
Wow, nice neighborhood

Well, at the point the photog went in there, most of the houses had been vacant for some time.

Plus it was originally built in the 1920s through to the 60s. I can assure you if there were houses on that site today, they wouldn't look at all like they did in the 1960s.   They'd all be as big as possible, butting right up against one another...a la Manhattan Beach.


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