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UA Moving IAD-EZE To EWR  
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16872 posts, RR: 51
Posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 14323 times:

As pointed out in the OAG thread UA is moving the EZE route to EWR this Spring, bringing the route back to the NYC market from where it originated.

Flight #847 departs EWR at 9:50PM, 767-300.


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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2708 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 14297 times:

That is a bummer...I would think that they could do both EWR-EZE and IAD-EZE...

It seems like EWR is getting preferential treatment to IAD in the new UA...


User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6764 posts, RR: 32
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 14253 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 1):
It seems like EWR is getting preferential treatment to IAD in the new UA...

Seems more like they're just following the money...


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16872 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 14218 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 1):
It seems like EWR is getting preferential treatment to IAD in the new UA...

The route is just moving back to where it began (NY), UA couldn't compete in the NY market so they withdrew their JFK-GRU-GIG , JFK-EZE-MVD , JFK-LHR and JFK-NRT flights. Now with the merger with CO they are in a more competitive position, and the route is moving back.

Would love if they brought back the Montevideo tag, either to EWR-EZE or IAH-EZE.



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User currently offlineeastern023 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 871 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 14223 times:

I thought IAD-EZE was a money maker. So fat chance of seeing IAD-SCL, this confirms that if UAL is to start the route it would be IAH-SCL.


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User currently offlineklwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2045 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 14179 times:

I am not surprised by this, in fact I had a feeling there would be an announcement soon as we get closer to full integration.

Regarding "preferential treatment," here we go again. I am sure it is what is the most profitable and most logical for the integrated route system, not a matter of the favored child situation.

I recall along time ago CO was once awarded EWR-EZE but did not launch the service since their economy at that time was in total freefall. Eventually they were stripped of the award. Glad to see it finally materialize. We knew it was only going to be a matter of time.


User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3704 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 14151 times:

That makes a lot of sense. I hope that EWR-GIG is relaunched, so that UA can finally drop the GRU-GIG tag, which is the last reminiscent of an era.

User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 14060 times:

Wow! Wasn't expecting this so soon!

Quoting United787 (Reply 1):
It seems like EWR is getting preferential treatment to IAD in the new UA...

Not true. The only setback that IAD folks have to deal with is IAD-AMS/CDG on CO 757s. IAD gets two NEW international routes this summer: IAD-MAN/DUB.

Also IAD gets 757s and domestic widebodies to the west coast. EWR gets none of that, yet.
Quoting C010T3 (Reply 6):
That makes a lot of sense. I hope that EWR-GIG is relaunched, so that UA can finally drop the GRU-GIG tag, which is the last reminiscent of an era.

That would be the next logical step. I would think they could operate EWR-GIG along with IAD-GIG though.



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User currently offlineklwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2045 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 14059 times:

It will be good to give AA some competition (over at JFK). Didn't DL fly JFK-EZE also? When was that?

The market may be able to support IAD-EZE and EWR-EZE. But isn't access to EZE quite limited still? Or is that in the past?

We may see a return of EWR-SCL

[Edited 2011-11-08 06:57:14]

User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4506 posts, RR: 33
Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 14066 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 1):

It seems like EWR is getting preferential treatment to IAD in the new UA...
Quoting ScottB (Reply 1):
Seems more like they're just following the money...

  
This may not be the last IAD-EWR move we see. I've thought since the merger was announced that UA would move some of IAD's international traffic to buttress the EWR superhub.

Quoting eastern023 (Reply 4):
I thought IAD-EZE was a money maker.

It may well be. But the money's apparently bigger at EWR, and UA hasn't acquired any additional widebodies recently.

Jim



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User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13958 times:

Quoting DCA-ROCguy (Reply 9):
This may not be the last IAD-EWR move we see. I've thought since the merger was announced that UA would move some of IAD's international traffic to buttress the EWR superhub.

on top of that, it's also in response to strong competition in NYC while UA pretty much has IAD dominated (albeit, with an odd combination of RJs and 777s)

and yes, I agree with another poster that if resources permit, UA should schedule more domestic WB out of EWR, even as repositioning flights. something like FCO-EWR-SFO-KIX on a 763.


User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3484 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13948 times:

"The route is just moving back to where it began (NY), UA couldn't compete in the NY market so they withdrew their JFK-GRU-GIG , JFK-EZE-MVD , JFK-LHR and JFK-NRT flights. Now with the merger with CO they are in a more competitive position, and the route is moving back.

Would love if they brought back the Montevideo tag, either to EWR-EZE or IAH-EZE."


Except its moving back to a completely different airport, with a completely different merged airline, in a completely different time.

Just a bit of a stretch.

Either way, look for more switches in either direction as EWR has more O&D traffic and IAD is just a better connecting facility (no delays/slots)

I am sure that UA will realize what DL and AA realized a long time ago . . .the connecting pax from OMA can go through a non delay-prone, non slotted hub while the int'l flight that needs the high yielding O&D passenger can leave from New York or Newark with some feed from the domestic side.


User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3704 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13920 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 7):
along with IAD-GIG

But IAD-GIG was dropped, and US has picked up the traffic with CLT-GIG. It's either EWR-GIG or nothing.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16872 posts, RR: 51
Reply 13, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13815 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 7):

That would be the next logical step. I would think they could operate EWR-GIG along with IAD-GIG though.

They can only do one or the other, they are limited by their route authorities.



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16872 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13784 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 11):
Except its moving back to a completely different airport, with a completely different merged airline, in a completely different time.

Just a bit of a stretch.

Not really, remember route authorities whether it's NYC-London, NYC-Mexico City, NYC-Brazil consider EWR and JFK one market. Which is why CO was able to move Eastern's former JFK-MEX route to EWR, and why even though there's only one US carrier on JFK-MEX (DL) AA still can't fly the route.

When UA sold their NY-London route authorities to DL it included EWR, UA operated both EWR and JFK to LHR with Pan Am's route authorities between London and New York. Same with Tokyo, UA was operating both EWR-NRT and JFK-NRT with Pan Am's New York-Tokyo route authority.

It's not a stretch legally, emotionally for some is another issue.

[Edited 2011-11-08 07:22:26]


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16872 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13750 times:

Quoting C010T3 (Reply 12):
But IAD-GIG was dropped, and US has picked up the traffic with CLT-GIG

I believe UA is leasing US Brazil route authorities which US is utilizing for their CLT-GIG flights.



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User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13589 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 13):

Ah, did not know that. Thanks.

Also the recently discussed IAD-MAN/DUB are loaded on UA.com.

IAD-MAD still shows up as an Aer Lingus flight



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11357 posts, RR: 52
Reply 17, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13587 times:

Quoting klwright69 (Reply 5):
Regarding "preferential treatment," here we go again. I am sure it is what is the most profitable and most logical for the integrated route system, not a matter of the favored child situation.

It IS preferential treatment, and it IS the most profitable choice (likely). The two go hand in hand. Think about it: would you run an airline where you preferred making more money or making less?

The fact is, the new UA thinks it can make more money at EWR than at IAD, and so IAD will be slowly cannibalized. That is a preference, and the anger of Washingtonians should be understandable.

(Sounds like a bad idea long term though. With the US/DL slot swap at DCA, Washington is becoming a Star Alliance city beyond any doubt. UA should build upon this loyalty.)

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 7):
The only setback that IAD folks have to deal with is IAD-AMS/CDG on CO 757s.

That's a pretty major setback, don't you think?



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User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3704 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13555 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 15):
I believe UA is leasing US Brazil route authorities which US is utilizing for their CLT-GIG flights.

Actually, they were supposed to fund US's proposed CLT-GRU, but they have not been able to guarantee convenient slots for their service yet. There is no shortage of frequencies for further services to GIG, so UA may expand at any time.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16872 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13506 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 16):
IAD-MAD still shows up as an Aer Lingus flight

Supposedly that contract was renewed for another year, which I was surprised by, that route eventually will be on UA metal.



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User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13508 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 17):
That's a pretty major setback, don't you think?

If there are enough diversions this winter I highly doubt they will be operated by 757s next year.

IAD-DUB/MAN are within the range of the 757 and UA has never operated these routings before. This is a plus for Washingtonians -- new nonstops to destinations in Europe.

And again, once EWR gets 777 or 767s between EWR-LAX/SFO and IAD gets them taken away, I'll believe that IAD is getting whipped by EWR.



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User currently offlineC010T3 From Brazil, joined Jul 2006, 3704 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 13420 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 13):
They can only do one or the other, they are limited by their route authorities.

There are 14 GIG-eligible frequencies waiting to be used.


User currently offlineual777uk From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 13292 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 17):
The fact is, the new UA thinks it can make more money at EWR than at IAD, and so IAD will be slowly cannibalized. That is a preference, and the anger of Washingtonians should be understandable.

So a couple of flights go to EWR and all of a sudden IAD is being cannibalized. Are you sure!!


User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11357 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 13165 times:

Quoting ual777uk (Reply 22):
So a couple of flights go to EWR and all of a sudden IAD is being cannibalized. Are you sure!!

I certainly have cause for concern, do I not? Not only are we suffering 757s to large market cities ex-IAD, but other 777 routes have been downgauged to 767s, if my memory is correct. Please correct me if I'm wrong.



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16872 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (2 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 13153 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 23):
Not only are we suffering 757s to large market cities ex-IAD, but other 777 routes have been downgauged to 767s, if my memory is correct. Please correct me if I'm wrong

Which routes have been downgraded to 767s from 777s?



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25 ual777uk : Like you STT757 I am struggling on that one. AMS and CDG are ST strongholds. IAD is getting MAN next year on UA, okay its a 757 but its a new route.
26 Cubsrule : I think the question is how much IAD will be "slowly cannibalized." Surely, you aren't suggesting that IAD won't have service to Paris or Tokyo in 5
27 IADLHR : What a bummer. However, in the back of my mind, I was wondering how long this flight would last. I was planning to go IAD-EZE in April or May. Now, I
28 IADLHR : It would be nice if UA started OMA-IAD. I know some people, myself included, who are beyond fed up with the delays of OMA-EWR and trying to connect t
29 IADLHR : By the way, how long has the IAD-EZE flight been operating? If memory serves, it is quite awhile.
30 CODC10 : You're delusional if you think UA is going to draw down the IAD hub. While the NYC market may be higher-yielding and more profitable, UA is highly co
31 D L X : Again, as I said, I'm not sure and I could be wrong. I thought I had read that in the cross-fleeting threads a few months ago. Even if there haven't
32 STT757 : It already is, EWR handles more passengers, has more destinations, more employees, larger catchment area and way better infrastructure than IAD.
33 D L X : I *think* you're agreeing with me, but I'm not sure.
34 C680 : Not from an ATC / airspace / Pilot perspective.[Edited 2011-11-08 10:56:14]
35 STT757 : Is that because of infrastructure or fewer flights.
36 TOMMY767 : that's a clear win for IAD. EWR has horrible ATC and delays. When the wind blows the wrong way, everything gets screwed up. Cause for this? Conjestio
37 jfk777 : What took them so long ? AA has been flying 777 from JFK to EZE for years with people actually paying for First Class seats.
38 Post contains links BC77008 : Funny how United Continental's press release makes no mention of discontinuing the IAD-EZE flight. Only mentions the new service between EWR and EZE a
39 FlyPNS1 : But how can they "prioritize" EWR over IAD, when EWR cannot grow? Whenver UA wants to add a flight at EWR, they have to delete another flight. EWR go
40 GullAirACK : They clearly have the data that suggests "where people want to go" and have made the appropriate change. This is a customer benefit. Not necessarily
41 tsnamm : I thin I think the point is that UA are cannablizing a flight from 1 hub to another as far as the EZE flt is concerned, not "adding" anything. The DUB
42 BC77008 : I was speaking rhetorically.
43 C010T3 : Exactly! UA's IAD-EZE must have had a great NYC-EZE O&D component, so it is only natural to shift if to EWR, where almost all connecting opportun
44 Cubsrule : Isn't EWR-DUB seeing a frequency reduction?
45 C680 : I would say infrastructure. IAD has plenty of flights - especially the morning and afternoon rush. But IAD has four runways, and parking is between o
46 nutsaboutplanes : It is my understanding that the UA owned frequency that is on lease to US will be returned in 2015 I believe. At that point, the frequency obtained i
47 shamrock604 : Yes, both MAN and DUB will now have 1 x daily to EWR and 1 x Daily to IAD.
48 RyanairGuru : But with a 50% reduction in capacity to both. I'm pretty certain that is what we're seeing. After all MAN-IAD would be relatively small as a stand-al
49 CODC10 : Which matches the average ratio between originating and flow pax at the EWR hub on flights to Europe.
50 STT757 : EWR is one of the most profitable US domestic hubs, and conversely has the highest average fares in the Nation. That is supported by the fact that the
51 RyanairGuru : Hence see part 2 of my post
52 C010T3 : Well, that story with US Airways is very funny and, quite frankly, embarrassing. Brazil and the US will have open skies by IATA Winter 2015-16, but U
53 airbazar : In regards to S.America, they also want to start building a market in antecipation of TAM leaving *A. NYC is a huge market to/from S.America. If/when
54 pdpsol : This announcement is very disappointing for DC and area residents that travel frequently to Bs.As. Switching at EWR is really a pain. IAD nonstop to E
55 FlyPNS1 : What data do you have to support that? No doubt that EWR produces a lot of revenue for UA/CO, but there's a big difference between revenue and profit
56 incitatus : That is more optimistic than United. The way I see it, an airline which can fly NYC-EZE does (new UA). An airline that cannot, flies IAD-EZE (old UA)
57 C680 : I think you misunderstood my use of the word "Performance" I was talking about the physical process of getting airplanes from parking to the sky, and
58 pdpsol : That is not the point I made in my post. NYC is obviously a larger market than Washington, DC and the surrounding area. Nonetheless, operating a year
59 Termbewr : Moving IAD - EZE to EWR comes as no surprise. There is a large market for Argentina here in NYC. I suspect EWR will see growth with flights outside of
60 washingtonian : Didn't have a chance to read through all of the replies, but this is not exactly a huge surprise. It had been rumored on here for months. And they did
61 RyanairGuru : Exactly they are both too important as O&D destinations, both inbound and outbound, for there to be a place for both long term. Rather than ATL/M
62 christao17 : Yet so many people here like their apocolyptic visions! Ha ha.
63 klwright69 : I fully agree. Over the long term both EWR and IAD will be developed. It would be stupid to abandon IAD as a hub. It aint' gonna happen. Some people
64 STT757 : UA is converting 14 domestic 767-300s to International configuration, however at the same time Smisek stated in the recent investors conference call
65 TOMMY767 : UGH such a dumb decision. They could use that metal in the interim during the conversions.
66 airbazar : What makes you think they need it? Certainly they've done the math before making this decision.
67 TOMMY767 : Bean counting math, really. UA has a lot of widebodies but "only a certain amount at the moment for merger restructuring" is the perception. If they
68 STT757 : I think they will wait for the end of the peak Summer travel season, by then they should have five 787s in the fleet which will get them through to t
69 TOMMY767 : We were discussing yesterday how the first one won't be ready until the June/July timeframe. I'm not sure if 5 are going to be ready by peak summer u
70 STT757 : They won't be ready for this peak travel season (Summer '12), however they should have about 10 ready for Summer season '13. Which is why I think the
71 CODC10 : CO doesn't even use all of its 762s on a daily basis at the moment. It has nothing to do with the fact that they don't have enough airplanes to cover
72 desertjets : I may be late to the party here... but am I mistaken in that the current US-Argentina bilateral is pretty restrictive? And for United the choice is ei
73 Cubsrule : Yes. There are unused frequencies (this was not the case 5 years ago).
74 TOMMY767 : Tell that to CO who was desperate for the 762 to do their daily EWR-GRU routings through the late 2000s. CO made some rather interesting order switch
75 Post contains images enilria : Thanks for the props! ...or is "jets" more appropriate in this case.
76 CODC10 : ? I don't understand what you mean at all. The 777 was too much airplane for the market at the time and the 767-400ERs were committed elsewhere. What
77 Cubsrule : The 73G is unnecessary for DCA and, in most cases, for SNA. For sure it's important in a few markets, but I doubt we'll see an order for more.
78 TOMMY767 : Not at all. I'm pointing out that CO had a few inconsistencies with fleet planning. What? I thought CO was doing very well in 2003? OK so then I don'
79 CODC10 : What could they have done to make their fleet planning more consistent? I would say an all-Boeing fleet with only three type ratings is evidence of a
80 shamrock604 : What is in the res systems seems very temporary. For one, you will notice that the new DUB-IAD flight has the same flight number as the second DUB-EW
81 RyanairGuru : Ditto MAN: CO100/101 which would suggest that it is a complete 1-for-1 swap. Further going to united.com and try and book MAN-EWR any time after June
82 AwysBSB : I wonder if UA hub at IAD may get weaker than US at PHL after all expected changes.
83 CODC10 : We definitely won't see an order for more, andI didn't say the 73G was necessary for DCA/SNA. However, its better performance at the edges of the env
84 TOMMY767 : That would be nuts if they moved EWR-MAN to IAD. EWR-MAN has been a strong route for CO for many years. IIRC US already has more flights out of PHL t
85 AwysBSB : PHL is busier than IAD indeed and that shows UA underestimates IAD.
86 RyanairGuru : They are moving one EWR-MAN flight to IAD. EWR-MAN is double daily (at least in summer) with CO20/21 and CO100/101. For next summer there is one EWR-
87 TOMMY767 : Although to be fair PHL has a TON of O&D. I think more than DC even. Gotcha thanks.
88 jfk777 : Philadelphia is a large city which also get southern New Jersey, Delaware and Maryland European traffic. Usairways also puts almost all its European
89 STT757 : It's just that DC has three airports (BWI, DCA, IAD) where PHL has one.
90 Post contains images AwysBSB : Those points are relevant Besides that, US does not have an international hub in NYC like the remaining competing carriers have.
91 TOMMY767 : Anybody think that UA will soon open a PMUA 763 base at EWR? But only one airport flies international -- IAD. BWI has a flight to LHR but it's subsidi
92 kgaiflyer : Plus Air Mobility flights -- which you sure notice near the holidays with hundreds of troops in fatigues are all over the airport.
93 CODC10 : It is my understanding that United's NYC pilot base is in the process (or will be soon) of requalifying international 767 and 777 crews in preparatio
94 TOMMY767 : That.....kind of makes a lot of sense.
95 washingtonian : Two things. First, I was basing that on the other thread about the unusually large number of tech diversions on AMS/CDG-IAD. If that is true, I can't
96 Cubsrule : DEL should not be a problem. BOM is a closer call.
97 CODC10 : EWR-BOM is about as far as ORD-HKG, and EWR-DEL is about 80nm shorter than SFO-SYD. Both are daily UA 744 routes. CO operates two daily 777s to TLV w
98 TOMMY767 : The thing is I don't think people in Y will know or care of the difference -- especially to India. With the 744, the F and J pax have a great product
99 Post contains images kgaiflyer : But PHL is a hell-hole for other reasons. Like all the nights I've had to rent a car and drive because the Concouse A-to-F or the Concourse C-to-F co
100 STT757 : They fly them to GRU from EWR and IAH, which ties up four aircraft right there due to the long ground dwell times down there, You think they would do
101 washingtonian : It really depends. Again, I am basing my comments on the assumption that the reports about an irregularly high number of tech stops are true. If they
102 MasseyBrown : As I recall from the route case that awarded UA IAD-EZE, only three American cities (NYC, MIA, and LAX) generate the bulk of EZE traffic. Traffic to o
103 jfk777 : How can United say its "lost" money from IAD to EZE when its flown the route for nearly 10 years since UA gave up Miami to Buenos Aires. UA flies to
104 STT757 : Correct me if I'm wrong, but the IAD-EZE route authorities came from JFK (which was not ten years ago). The MIA-EZE (and MIA-GRU) route authorities w
105 washingtonian : For what it's worth, for many years United operated a 757 on LGA-IAD with the same flight number continuing onto EZE. The few times I took that 757 f
106 klwright69 : It is interesting how things get repeated over and over and become "facts" by just merely repeating them. Since it was reported that there are many te
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