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User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2254 posts, RR: 25
Posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 22400 times:
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Continuation of discussion from : New Swiss Aviation Thread No. 27 (by ZRH Jul 2 2011 in Civil Aviation)#1

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User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1682 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 22395 times:

Thanks for opening this new topic!

A lot of things are currently going on.
Rumours about new destinations for LX, as it seems that DLA & NSI will be axed.
Also the upcoming referendum in ZRH is something which is highly important for Swiss aviation.



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User currently offlineSR4ever From Luxembourg, joined Mar 2010, 800 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 22142 times:

Quoting slz396 (Reply 241):
in future, LX probably being the most suited one for this task, as it is undoubtably able to offer a premium product.

Agreed, but Saudi Arabia isn't such an easy market, with hardly any non-religious Tourism, and business traffic dependent upon local sponsors.

Quoting slz396 (Reply 241):
I'd expect quite a lot of the more lucrative routes of bmi to be transferred to other airlines like LX, SN, OS and of course LH itself prior to the sale to BA.

That's one possibility indeed.

But which ex-BD routes for LX? IKA, AMM, BEY (ex WK), ALA, ESB, DKR, CMN, KBP, LAS (WK)? Where would it get the fleet to operate these routes?


User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1682 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 22122 times:

Would it be an option for LH to transfer the LH Italia aircraft to LX? This would mean a substantial increase both in aircraft, but also in flexibility seatwise. It's just an idea which is probably nothing more than bulls**t with BER getting 15 LH 32S stationed....


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User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 22079 times:

Quoting DALCE (Reply 3):
Would it be an option for LH to transfer the LH Italia aircraft to LX? This would mean a substantial increase both in aircraft, but also in flexibility seatwise. It's just an idea which is probably nothing more than bulls**t with BER getting 15 LH 32S stationed...

and they could get rid of those wetlease operations.... But it seems this will only happen once the 30 C Jet's were delivered by 201X


User currently offlinePhilInBRN From Switzerland, joined Jun 2009, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 22050 times:

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 4):
and they could get rid of those wetlease operations.... But it seems this will only happen once the 30 C Jet's were delivered by 201X

That's why the wet lease contracts for the four Helvetic F100 will expire in 2014 once the first C-Series aircraft will have been delivered.


User currently offlineDALCE From Netherlands, joined Feb 2007, 1682 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 21874 times:

With only 2 320's joining the fleet next year expansion remains to be tough in the short haul network.
Is there by any chance some info 'bout C-series first flights?



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User currently offlineBrouAviation From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 985 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 21812 times:

Hi guys,

I didn't see an answer in the previous topic, but will LX continue to operate the MCT tag-on from DXB, now Oman Air starts a direct service? I always get the impression most of the pax get off in DXB. Are there many bookings for just the MCT-DXB leg? The prices are very reasonable (120EUR return, booked for next week) but since it's operating in the middle of the night local time, I can't imagine it being a popular itinerary.

Next week I will fly to Dubai again, it will be interesting to see how many people remain seated during the deboarding process in DXB.

If anyone has any information on this topic, I would be interested to learn about it.

Regards,

Erik



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User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 21554 times:

Quoting DALCE (Reply 3):
Would it be an option for LH to transfer the LH Italia aircraft to LX? This would mean a substantial increase both in aircraft, but also in flexibility seatwise. It's just an idea which is probably nothing more than bulls**t with BER getting 15 LH 32S stationed....

LX wouldn't have anyone to fly them, they can hardly cope with their current expansion, and our new CLA doesn't allow the use of any more wetlease or "temporary"-pilots from elsewhere. Secondly, it's no secret that LX isn't happy with the A319 and is looking at getting rid of them, and as far as I know, most LH Italia aircraft are A319s.

There is no room for further expansion at LX, they are stretching it as it is.

As for the new (old) destination being looked at, it has been mentioned a few times above, but that is really all I can say..


User currently offlinePhilInBRN From Switzerland, joined Jun 2009, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 21543 times:

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 8):
LX wouldn't have anyone to fly them, they can hardly cope with their current expansion

Why does it take LX so long to finally overcome their crew shortage problems which have existed for years? Is the pilot's market drained in Europe or is it due to LX's own restrictive hiring procedures that they are not able to fill the gaps?

It seems to me that LX could have built up much more capacity at times when they flourished but were not able to due to this crew shortage.


User currently offlineSR4ever From Luxembourg, joined Mar 2010, 800 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 21533 times:

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 8):
Secondly, it's no secret that LX isn't happy with the A319 and is looking at getting rid of them,

May we expect LX to confirm the 30 C10 options which it has, besides the 30 firm orders?

Or will there be upgauges to 320? or C30 orders?


User currently offlineAntonovA330 From Switzerland, joined Jul 2007, 333 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 21510 times:

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 8):
LX isn't happy with the A319

How come? Because of their size/capacity/...? I'm curious



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User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 21505 times:

Quoting PhilInBRN (Reply 9):
Why does it take LX so long to finally overcome their crew shortage problems which have existed for years?

Because they are not thinking ahead. They are planning with the minimum amount of crews needed for their current operations to keep labour costs down, and they still havent realised yet that ou can't just hire quality flightcrews off the street in a days matter when they need them.

Quoting AntonovA330 (Reply 11):
How come? Because of their size/capacity/...? I'm curious

Exactly. It's basically a plane with the costs of an A320 but fewer revenue potential. This is also why the A318 has never been a success..


User currently offlineAntonovA330 From Switzerland, joined Jul 2007, 333 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 21254 times:

Quoting SandroZRH (Reply 12):

Ok, thanks for clairification.

Speaking of new destination(s), NZZ newspaper is mentioning possible reopening of SIN because of high business demand.
http://www.nzz.ch/magazin/reisen/bus..._swiss_umgeruestet_1.13283262.html



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User currently offlineSR4ever From Luxembourg, joined Mar 2010, 800 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 21204 times:

Should LX serve again SIN with its own metal, it would be with 343.

In that case, it would be a good idea to re-fit F and Y cabins (and IFE) to 333 standards.

Any chance LX also adds more longhaul flights to/from GVA in this decade?.


User currently offlineviasa From Switzerland, joined Jun 2005, 1874 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 21105 times:

An A330-200 (HB-IQA) is now operated by Swiss for Brussels Airlines on routes to/from Africa.

User currently offlineLONGisland89 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 735 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 20936 times:

Quoting viasa (Reply 15):
An A330-200 (HB-IQA) is now operated by Swiss for Brussels Airlines on routes to/from Africa.

Is the aircraft still flown with SWISS crews under the SWISS callsign? How long will it be until it is registered OO-SFY?


User currently offlineslz396 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 20930 times:

Quoting viasa (Reply 15):
An A330-200 (HB-IQA) is now operated by Swiss for Brussels Airlines on routes to/from Africa.

HB-IQA is going to be SN's first A332, but for the moment is it not yet entered on the Belgian register, as it first needs to be sold to a lessor before SN can lease it from them.

Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 16):
Is the aircraft still flown with SWISS crews under the SWISS callsign? How long will it be until it is registered OO-SFY?

As far as I know, it is flown by Belgian crews only... it should be registered as OO-SFY early next year.


User currently offlineLXA340 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2006, 2122 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 20669 times:

Quoting SR4ever (Reply 14):
Should LX serve again SIN with its own metal, it would be with 343.

In that case, it would be a good idea to re-fit F and Y cabins (and IFE) to 333 standards.

Any chance LX also adds more longhaul flights to/from GVA in this decade?.

Well there were always some rumours around for LX to receive a couple of used A346's would maybe be better for that route as I am not sure if the A343's of LX can operate ZRH-SIN non stop without any weight restrictions

Regarding the A343 refit, I gave up my hopes on that. With the saving policy of SWISS they will not be bothered because by around 2017 yes exactly at least another 6+ years they will start to replace the fleet with the A350's. Let0s hope they'll reconsider that again.


User currently offlinebralo20 From Belgium, joined May 2008, 624 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 20654 times:

Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 16):
Is the aircraft still flown with SWISS crews under the SWISS callsign? How long will it be until it is registered OO-SFY?

Full SN crews. Registration is expected next month.

Quoting slz396 (Reply 17):
HB-IQA is going to be SN's first A332, but for the moment is it not yet entered on the Belgian register, as it first needs to be sold to a lessor before SN can lease it from them.

Correctly  
Quoting slz396 (Reply 17):
As far as I know, it is flown by Belgian crews only... it should be registered as OO-SFY early next year.

It should be on the Belgian Civil Register somewhere next month.


User currently offlineManekS From Singapore, joined Oct 2008, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 20501 times:

Quoting LXA340 (Reply 18):
Well there were always some rumours around for LX to receive a couple of used A346's would maybe be better for that route as I am not sure if the A343's of LX can operate ZRH-SIN non stop without any weight restrictions

LH operate MUC-SIN without restrictions using an A343. ZRH is only 154 miles further - surely there would be a minimal (if any) impact on the payload?


User currently offlinemozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2168 posts, RR: 13
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 19847 times:

The new central security building and Dock B were opened today by Federal Counsellor Doris Leuthard. Pax use starts by December 1.

I just hope there still will be a fast track!

Also, how do they deal with transfer pax arriving in Zurich requiring a security check (e.g. if arriving from a non-Schengen destination)? Where will they be screened?

And I'm still curious to see which flights/airlines will use Dock B. How many stands does it have?


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5566 posts, RR: 36
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 19786 times:

Quoting mozart (Reply 21):
I just hope there still will be a fast track!

Also, how do they deal with transfer pax arriving in Zurich requiring a security check (e.g. if arriving from a non-Schengen destination)? Where will they be screened?

And I'm still curious to see which flights/airlines will use Dock B. How many stands does it have?

I don't know if there will be a fast track. But there are 26 security points. When they open enough a fast track will not be needed.
For transfer pax from non-Schengen countries there still will be security checks right after arrival before they get into the Airside Center. The central security building is for all pax originating ZRH.
Dock B will mainly be used by SWISS and Air Berlin. Probably the SWISS North American flights will leave there. 9 stands at the dock usable for Schengen or non-Schengen flights. Gates B and D. One of them is A 380 capable.


User currently offlinehelvknight From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 19692 times:

Quoting mozart (Reply 21):
Also, how do they deal with transfer pax arriving in Zurich requiring a security check (e.g. if arriving from a non-Schengen destination)? Where will they be screened?

It appears that they will be screened in the main building as the Heidi train is being partitioned.

Will they still cordon off half of the E dock for US flights (since TSA requirements are different to ICAO requirements)?


User currently offlineSR4ever From Luxembourg, joined Mar 2010, 800 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 19651 times:

Quoting helvknight (Reply 23):
It appears that they will be screened in the main building as the Heidi train is being partitioned.

Well, if arriving at Dock E and

departing from Dock E or Dock A >>>>>> security check at Dock E; or

departing from Dock B >>>>>> security check when entering Dock B


If arriving at Dock B >>>> security check at Dock B upon arrival


25 mozart : I am not sure this is necessarily the case. Look at the setup in Frankfurt or Munich, where there is no more additional security check for pax flying
26 ZRH : I read somewhere that probably the SWISS North American flights will leave from new Dock B.
27 Post contains links LONGisland89 : I can't wait to see this (SWISS A340 video): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5Ieg...i2-hWw&index=13&feature=plpp_video
28 helvknight : That's changed in that case, I flew to the US from FRA a few years ago and there was definitely a further check then. That would be a good idea, curr
29 PhilInBRN : According to a source close to the airport operations there will be no North American flights operated from Dock B, at least not right after the open
30 mozart : As you say: a few years ago. Thing is that even fewer years ago they did away with the extra checks at FRA and MUC and I believe also at all other Ge
31 yamatthey : In Geneva you only have one security check for all passengers (domestic, Schengen, international and USA). The only exception is El Al flights.
32 vegas005 : with only 9 docking bays I don't believe you will see NA flights from dock B. Sadly grossly undersized for the needs...
33 Post contains links GVAJFKflyer : Interesting video here: http://www.zurich-airport.com/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-842/
34 Post contains images ZRH : It seems that the two referenda against Zurich Airport are declined. Fortunately. Thank's to all people who voted 2xNEIN! There are not only NIMBYs he
35 Post contains images ZRH : It is now definite
36 Post contains images HAJflyer : This result is certainly a relief and another indication that the people are usually smarter than the politicians. I am really grateful that we live
37 vegas005 : Let's be clear. ZRH is a national asset and as such any vote should be nationwide. The fact that a few rich slobs in the south of Zurich almost singl
38 glidepath73 : Congrats to the very positive votes of the people living in Zurich! So, how will the next master-plan regarding tarmac and runway expansion look like?
39 Post contains links AntonovA330 : A newspaper article (NZZ) dating back to 2009 mentions 400 meters (RWY14/32) and 450 meters (RWY10/28) respectively. Don't know if these numbers are
40 FlySwiss : Only to make sure, isn't there still a popular vote for all changes of the runway's? I thought this is fixed in the law.
41 helvknight : As far as I know this is the case.
42 Post contains images glidepath73 : Thanks for posting! Would be nice to see an official masterplan soon!
43 Post contains links ZRH : The new Dock B is now open. The first flight to use it was a A 343 LX 289 from Johannesburg. Here a few pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/swissin
44 Post contains images aviationmaster : With LX236 (CAI) leaving from gate E23, LX16 (JFK) from E52 and LX160 (NRT) from E35, the wall in Dock E in place for US flights must finally be a thi
45 glidepath73 : Does this mean we will have even long haul aircraft's on Dock B in the future? Or was the A340 flight just a special thing, for the opening only?
46 helvknight : The gates are widebody (in fact one is apparently able to handle the A380) so I'd imagine that we could see widebodies. Looking at the ZRH page thoug
47 Post contains images DALCE : Well, let's order some new planes LX And you better hurry now
48 ZRH : I have been on terrace B today. It is really great, although it is shorter than the old one you see about the same. Unfortunately the terrace E is now
49 SR4ever : Dock B look nice, really. Now Dock A should be rebuilt to the same standards. LX deserves something better for its Schengen flights.
50 LXA340 : LX will use Dock B as well for long haul flights probably with no specificdesignation. Today the LX A340 which arrived from JNB departed later on fro
51 Post contains images SandroZRH : Pretty cool, what are the chances of experiencing an IFSD on exactly the flight that the filmcrew was on? Although i'm a bit curious as we usually re
52 LAX888 : I have a question regarding runway use. Is runway 16 still used for landings? I somehow have only seen and been on landings on 14 if they come from th
53 ZRH : As I know some times they use r/w 16 still for landings. As you said especially then when an aircraft is parked at the stands on the other side of Doc
54 helvknight : I was on the B terrace yesterday (after queueing forever) and it is pretty nice. Just a couple of questions though. I see that the D dock (the lower l
55 SandroZRH : They are doing some maintenance work in the tower, which is why they are not approving runway 16 approaches for now. That's what it says in our notam
56 Post contains images aviationmaster : The old Non-Schengen B Busgates are definately not in use anymore.
57 rjm777ual : Does anybody know why they stopped serving IAD? I'd love to see them here again. i was told it was because of prices but.....
58 ZRH : That's long ago SWISS (or even Swissair?) stopped IAD. Probably after 9/11. Now UA the Star Alliance partner flies IAD-ZRH. They perhaps start it aga
59 LXA340 : I remember being on a IAD-ZRH flight in summer of 2003, if I am not wrong the flight was stoped with the end of the summer timetable 2003
60 ka : LX is increasing ZRH-ORD with a second flight 4 times per week starting in Jun12. LX2608 ZRH-ORD 9.55-12.35 -2-4-67- LX2609 ORD-ZRH 14.50-6.20+1 -2-4-
61 ZRH : Interesting, I did not think about that. Is this really a flight with SWISS metal? It has a four digit number, is this not a code-share flight? Edite
62 aviationmaster : Just checked it on LX's online timetable and it does seem to be an LX operated flight (A333). Perhaps a seasonal increase for the summer months?
63 Post contains images ZRH : Ok thank you. I was just wondering about the number. But now I found in the timetable a second seasonal LAX flight (in March) on Saturdays with the f
64 ZRH : Sorry I am wrong again. This LAX flight 2740 is not a second flight but is called like this between March 11-23 2012. I don't know why (due to time c
65 nyswiss : SWISS Timetable News Summer 2012: Intercontinental Zurich – Chicago (ZRH-ORD) During summer 2012 peak period Zurich-Chicago will be increased by fou
66 nyswiss : Per my post above, this seems where the capacity of the Cameroun flights is being utilized
67 OlafW : Apparently a reaction to the withdrawal of OK from that route.
68 Post contains links ZRH : SWISS offers to check-in PAX automatically. This is cool new feature, at least for people who are not really used to the internet and to all needs for
69 Bralo20 : HB-IQC was ferried yesterday from ZRH to MAN for painting in SN colors. This plane will become OO-SFZ in early 2012.
70 mcg : In June LX was testing a modification to check-in procedures at ZRH where the customer attached baggage tags to their checked luggage. You check in at
71 Post contains links PITrules : The DepartedFlights.com website now has July 1983 schedules for ZRH. Pretty interesting http://www.departedflights.com/ZRH83intro.html http://www.depa
72 Post contains images aviationmaster : Ahhh the "quick bag drop machine", part of the ZRH's "seamless travel" vision. The current self-check-in kiosks at ZRH have always printed out the ba
73 runway23 : Darwin will start two daily flights per day from Genoa to Zurich and Geneva. I give this 2 months before either fail badly.
74 PhilInBRN : Without a codeshare with LX this route will not be around for long. I don't see however why LX doesn't cooperate more with smaller regional carriers
75 runway23 : Even with a codeshare, the timings of the flights (whether to GVA or ZRH) are not adapted with any of the connecting banks in ZRH or any O&D they
76 Post contains links glidepath73 : I made a little introducing movie regarding the lovely new visitor Terrace on DOCK-B. Enjoy... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCnnkFkApsc Greetz, Patr
77 ka : ?? Both turnaround times at ZRH (0840-0920 and 1535-1705) fit exactly into LX connecting banks. Check your facts. Ka.
78 runway23 : Not the 1pm and 9pm banks which are the most important ones LX have.
79 ka : ...then explain your quote! You want to say that 50% bank connectivity or 100% for the two new flights (if you look at it from the other side) are "n
80 ZRH : Thank's for this great movie. I am happy that we have still a lot of four-holers here, the TK 346 is specially impressive.
81 glidepath73 : This is something a lot of airports do not see anymore. Meanwhile even T-tail passenger aircraft become a rare thing in ZRH. Especially MD-80 Series
82 ZRH : Yes, there are only a few F 100 left. Also the 747 is usually missing. A few weeks ago TK came a couple of days with a 744. I was happy to watch her
83 DALCE : AFAIK TK is not operating 747's.
84 ZRH : Sorry, I of course wanted to write TG. It was instead of the 346.
85 Post contains images DALCE : LOL, That makes more sense I already guessed you meant TG. Could not think of any other carrier operating 744 to ZRH. SQ or KE perhaps, but highly unl
86 Post contains links aviopic : Helvetic signed a lifetime support deal with Fokker just a month ago. http://www.asdwire.com/news_detail/8...th_European_FLYFokker__partner.htm
87 standby87 : Anyone know what that Boeing 727 with winglets is doing in and out of ZRH? Registration M-STAR, I saw it leave and depart within an hour on Sunday. Wh
88 standby87 : Me again! Any technical experts out there: I met a spotter on Sunday who had bought his own SSR Receiver, installed on the roof of his house in Zurich
89 B738FlyUIA : Hi A.Netters Since a couple of weeks the new Terrasse (Terminal 2 - Ex B) is open. I was suprised when enterered there to see the price of 5CHF a pers
90 Post contains links Viscount724 : According to the Isle of Man aircraft register (link here)... http://www.gov.im/ded/Aircraft/registeredaircraft2.xml ...the registered owner is: Star
91 Post contains images standby87 : Thanks a million, what great info. I have to confess I didn't know that M- was the designator for the Isle of Man. I shall write to that PO Box Numbe
92 LXA340 : How come the return flight LX255 from TLV to ZRH was cancelled this afternoon. Could it be that the crew refused to make the return flight as they wou
93 Post contains links aviationmaster : If duty time is the reason, it wouldn't be the first time this week. Monday's LX236 to CAI was cancelled for the same reason. http://www.tagesanzeige
94 HECA : Was the plane ferried back to ZRH empty?
95 LXA340 : The Questions is if both the CAI and also the TLV flights were a sign in direction LX management by the crew that they are not amused about their chr
96 AntonovA330 : Horray, just seen on swiss.com: open-jaw flights are now bookable - it was about time!
97 Post contains links ZRH : SWISS has in 2011 a absolute record in numbers of passengers. By the end of the year it will be more than 15 mi passengers. This is more than any Swis
98 Viscount724 : Does LX really have more longhaul destinations than SQ? Population of Switzerland about 8 million vs. Singapore´s roughly 5 million.
99 AntonovA330 : Maybe you want to count EK in on that. Or did we miss something?
100 ZRH : They told so in the article. Probably they meant in Europe?
101 ka : Weren't Swissair and Crossair counted as two seperate airlines in those days?? Now they are basically one operation in terms of accountants. Never tr
102 Post contains links and images vegas005 : Why would we need to do this? I use http://radar.zhaw.ch/radar.html on any device...a lot less work
103 PhilInBRN : Some great news regarding the performance of Swiss airports in 2011: Geneva airport had another record year as passenger numbers grew by 10.5% to 13,1
104 standby87 : Inbound Singapore A380 to ZRH diverted to MUC this morning! I don't know anyone in SQ - was that because of the winds? It will depart 2130hrs tonight.
105 B738FlyUIA : According to the ZRH's Website the flight is not yet confirmed to arrive. But also AA64 from JFK is diverted to Milano.
106 Post contains links standby87 : Answer my own question, it was the high winds!! http://www.20min.ch/news/kreuz_und_q...r---A380-brach-Landung-ab-28097037 "Eine Maschine der Singapor
107 B738FlyUIA : Yes, me to!! I was checking the ZRH Website and see that there where other ac's (longhaul) that landed before and after!!! So they didn't give it ano
108 AntonovA330 : Apparently, LX shifted schedule of its new PEK service beginning February 11. I'm quite sure it was formerly something like this: ZRHPEK 1730-1000, PE
109 SN-MD11 : Could anyone give an update on HB-IQC status (now in full SN colors, and ferried back MAN-ZRH). Viele danke !
110 aviationmaster : The reason for the adjustment are slot constraints at PEK. In addition to the new departure/arrival times, the flight will be operated by the A340 un
111 B738FlyUIA : Hello SN-MD11 I passed three days ago the maintenance Area of LX and saw a A332 there in full SN colors... didn't catch the reg but I think that it w
112 Post contains images SandroZRH : Yes, thursday was quite a day, we were stuck in the AMIKI hold for over an hour with fuel reserves depleating and just when we were about to point ou
113 ZRH : Good luck with the A330. Tell us where your first 330 flight on line will go. How long does the 330 training will last?
114 vegas005 : Congrats SandroZRH!! Best of luck on the widebody! Hope to be on one of your flights soon.
115 LAX888 : I saw today that LX has three extra flights to Russia (2x DME and 1x LED) all scheduled between 21.50 and 21.55. Is there a special reason why they ha
116 runway23 : Russian Christmas and New Year.
117 PhilInBRN : As mentioned it's the end of the Russian holidays. There will also be a Aeroflot A330 flight from SVO tomorrow. And in Geneva there have been at time
118 runway23 : Just today, SU sent 2x A333 and 1x 763 to GVA. They have been sending A330s regularly for the past to weeks and this week included.[Edited 2012-01-09
119 Post contains links and images B738FlyUIA : Today Tue 10/01/12 SU is sending a A332 on the SU265/266 Flt to ZRH... http://www.flightradar24.com/#!/AFL265 So might go and do some spotting there
120 LXA340 : The flight times, especially the very early departure from PEK doesn't really look that attractive to me especially not for O/D and european connecti
121 Viscount724 : Why would anyone want to fly beween the U.S. and China via Europe? It's much shorter via the Pacific, and with the huge amount of capacity on Pacific
122 SandroZRH : As previously mentioned, the flight times are what they are because LX didn't get the desired slots that had earlier been promised to them by the Chi
123 LAX888 : Question regarding Vueling: I am a bit surprised that although they use Check-In 3 like other Charter carriers, they use Gates A for all their flights
124 DALCE : It might have something to do with the availability of the fingergates at the times VY is calling at ZRH. KL & IB are network carriers which norma
125 LAX888 : I thought of that, however they arrive and depart at the same time as many other LX flights, so I was not sure if this is the main reason. They have
126 Post contains links ka : First LX-a/c in new design! With billboard lettering: http://www.planepictures.net/show.php?id=1107977 Nice, Ka.
127 B738FlyUIA : Thanks for sharing Ka !!! I don't think it really special... like the old livery the same.... but as we are all human's we will get to use of this li
128 Viscount724 : LX must have a mong the lowest livery painting costs of any airline in the world (disregarding the high labour cost if the work is done in Switzerlan
129 vegas005 : Sadly horrible.......
130 SandroZRH : terrible indeed..
131 Post contains images DALCE : it's easy and cheap to paint AIR behind SWISS now
132 ka : after having seen it in person I have to say BRAVO SWISS! clean - simple - elegant - down to the basics - recognisable no longer the bits and pieces
133 Post contains images B738FlyUIA : I agree with you SandroZRH!!! After seeing this stuff that should be called design this morning at ZRH!!!!!
134 Post contains links and images FatmirJusufi : I thought all of this new SWISS color scheme and logo would fit better on aircraft, but unfortunately is way too simple — it's too Finnairish. View
135 Post contains images Flying Belgian : Ugly ugly ugly and ugly. The previous livery had a real personality. I liked the fact it was written in 4 languages. Why the hell did they change, the
136 slz396 : Well, it's not like much has changed, has it? All they did was drop the 2 red squares from their engines as well as remove the tiny little tiles from
137 ZRH : I like it. Clean, simple, elegant, no kitsch. You recognize SWISS from far. BTW a question: is this the A 330-300 no 11 for SWISS? When was it deliver
138 PhilInBRN : It is indeed. HB-JHK was delivered last Wednesday.
139 Post contains links B738FlyUIA : http://skyliner-aviation.de/regdb.main?LC=nav4&page=2
140 ATL : My first reaction was: OH COME ON NOW But then again it IS a new livery and thus we will all eventually adapt to it. I'm still not sure how to feel ab
141 SandroZRH : I'm sorry, but how can this possibly be elegant? The new titles are totally out of place, it looks so cheap it's almost laughable. Had they left the
142 LXA333 : Does anybody know if the a332s are completely retired? It has been a while since i flew one of those, 22 flights on a330-200s 6 rides on HB-IQI, all j
143 PhilInBRN : They're completely retired. I think one frame is still in ZRH in SN colours (HB-IQC iirc).
144 ka : Obviously, I am not the only one thinking it is elegant! And, BTW, be careful publically bashing the company you are working for. Might not look well
145 PhilInBRN : In other news, Blue1 will cease operations to ZRH by the end of March (due to reorganization towards feeding SAS in CPH and ARN). The exit of Blue1 wo
146 Post contains images yamatthey : This color scheme is ugly (this is only my point of view, but really this is a mistake, a ugly mistake)! The “SWISS” is way too oversized and miss
147 ZRH : Haha, I think SWISS will accept the opinion from a F/O. I think he is probably not the only one with this opinion.
148 Post contains images SandroZRH : Yeah, youre probably right. Btw, say hi next time on the radio will you [Edited 2012-01-17 11:54:04]
149 standby87 : Anyone know why Singapore Airlines dropped into Dubai yesterday? SQ345/18JAN ZRH-SIN 9V-SKM had a stop in Dubai! I couldn't see anything from the usua
150 SR4ever : Agreed. 2 daily flights wouldn't be a bad idea, such as: ZRH: 09.20 HEL: 13.00 HEL: 14.00 ZRH: 16.00 ZRH: 13.00 HEL: 16.40 HEL: 17.30 ZRH: 19.30 Pity
151 AntonovA330 : That'd be nice... Not too long ago LX restarted OSL. Is Finland on LX' radar? On a sidenote, it seems JHK, wearing the new livery, is applied on DXB/
152 Post contains links B738FlyUIA : Couldn't find any information even on http://www.avherald.com/ !!!! But interesting to know why!!!!!!!!!
153 Viscount724 : Still many Star Alliance connections between Switzerland and HEL via FRA/MUC/CPH/ARN on LH and SK.
154 PhilInBRN : You're right but I think a direct link between rather important cities in ZRH and HEL should be offered nonetheless. As of right now only one reason
155 DALCE : I could see a ZRH-HEL flight on the horizon, since 2 more 320's will come online soon.
156 SR4ever : Indeed. But LX will also need to replace BD on BSL-LHR and BSL-MAN...
157 PhilInBRN : If they choose to replace that service. They could also sub contract the flights to other airlines such as Helvetic or Contact Air. I'm also not quit
158 Post contains images AntonovA330 : Let's not forget that SOF had been discontinued, which frees up an A/C (though I'm not sure if an A319 or was SOF served by an Avro lately?). Quite ri
159 SR4ever : It makes sense indeed. LCY is doubtless LX favorite Airport in London. Very much agreed. Talking about London, LGW should perhaps be considered, if L
160 B738FlyUIA : I use to fly a lot to KPB and the loads on PS where very good... as LX have now more flights to Moscow DME I could imagine that there would be a addi
161 Loran : Hi there, does anyone know what will happen to the PrivatAir 737-800 BBJ once it comes off the EWR route in March? Does LX have any other use for it?
162 SR4ever : As far as I remember, LX is to return the 738 to its lessor...
163 ZRH : This 737BBJ does not belong to LX. It was only a wet lease from PrivatAir. It is on behalf of PrivatAir what they do with it.
164 Loran : If you read my question carefully, that is exactly what I was saying. Thanks for your reply, so no further use for it in LX' network.
165 ab1247 : Considering that the gross majority of the LX A320 fleet consists of frames from the SR days, I was curious to find that LX has not started a replacem
166 Viscount724 : I expect their first priority is to replace the Avro RJ100s with the comiing CSeries. There's a much higher return on investment with that change due
167 Post contains links and images B738FlyUIA : Maybe has been discussed before: Have seen for a while the ex LX A332 Reg: HB-IOC at ZRH.... Does anybody know when will be delivered to Brussles Airl
168 LAX888 : Wasn't that served by an Avro? I thought they used this plane now for the additional ZRH-LHR-ZRH route, which uses the Avro 99% of the time. It does
169 LAX888 : Today seems to be an interesting day at ZRH: SQ is flying with a 77W instead of the A388 CA has a flight on an A343 to MXP LX flew an A333 to BRU anyb
170 PhilInBRN : SQ A380s have to undergo structure testing due to recent developments. SQ therefore serves ZRH with a 77W for some days until their A380 fleet gets b
171 B738FlyUIA : Hi Phil You know if they will arrive tomorrow with a 77W?
172 Post contains images LAX888 : oh I see. Thanks for the information. Pity they do not use them on the LHR flights
173 ZRH : Probably was our fellow airliners.net member SandroZRH on board. He is trained on the A 330 at the moment.
174 Post contains images SandroZRH : Nope, I won't be flying on the line before February. And then it will be ORD, MCT, TLV and 2 x JFK. No Shorthaul-rotations for me luckily
175 Post contains images ZRH : Ok. Happy landings. Edited: Sandro a question about that: is the 330 training only in the simulator before you go on line or is there a real training
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