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LondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1770 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15880 times:
Great news for Berliners. At last the national airline will provide them with the service they deserve. But as for LHR-BER it's unclear who will operate the flight. Will it be LH mainline or LH regional or Bmi .... if still in business ?
dazeflight From Germany, joined Jun 1999, 580 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 15709 times:
@ C010T3: where's the connection?
Anyway, this definitely puts BER on #4 for LH, even though last week a few blue banana guys where claiming HAM and STR are ahead of Berlin in importance for the LH-group, even though a few of those routes have been transferred from Germanwings to LH - which is actually one of the most interesting things about this announcement.
LH422 From Germany, joined Sep 2010, 444 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 13249 times:
There will be a ceremonial flight with the ninth A380 D-AIMI to be named "Berlin" from BER to FRA on June 3rd. The christening ceremony will probably be right before that. It doesn't seem to be in the booking system yet...
Raptors From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 183 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 11551 times:
I didn't think that LH were allowed to fly BER-LON, or vice versa. Isn't this the reason those flights are curently operated by BMi. Once a deal with BMi has been reached where does this leave LH on the route??????????
dazeflight From Germany, joined Jun 1999, 580 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (4 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 11488 times:
Quoting Raptors (Reply 23): I didn't think that LH were allowed to fly BER-LON, or vice versa. Isn't this the reason those flights are curently operated by BMi. Once a deal with BMi has been reached where does this leave LH on the route??????????
LH already operated this route with their own metal, to different London area airports.
: Hmmm... - Only one Transatlantic route and that's EWR with CO/UA, not LH. - No Far East of any kind from what I can see. The hubs of FRA and MUC notwi
: It would be great if it has more, but this is Berlin, its history and economy means that this is as good as it gets for the current era.
: That was over twenty years ago ! Have you heard of European open-skys ? ANY EU carrier can operate between any airport pair in any member country plu
: So does that mean both OS and LH will be operating BER-VIE in the future?
: Will LH have a fully operating lounge in BER on the 3rd June? Or will things open in dribs and drabs?
: For the time being no, unfortunately. But we can reasonably expect TG to serve BER in a not-so-distant future. NH and CA could also join, yet at a la
: Yes Sir! I bet LH is making really good money with full acfts on the middle eastern routes. Those people have money and I flew to Beirut via FRA seve
: If AB reaaligns its long-haul operations at BER, they will have upper hand over LH european network. Anyways, any competition is a healthy thing. I am
: what are the frequencies for these routes? Does this mean berlin is now a hub? how can they station 15 A320's just lke that? Are they all new? are the
: Actually, they'll only add 6 airplanes to their BER fleet.
: Couply of points: I can't see how AB could 'realign' its long-haul operations at BER. Lack of a/c and money are the main issues. And even if they cou
: Remember that LH Italia closed its operations just recently. They had a bunch of A319s, which I guess they changed with A320s at MUC or FRA, and thos
: Yes but I believe LH had only 737s based in Berlin ?? Now it will be all A32x.
: Especially given the product which they offer. Same a/c as on their shorter European flights
: [ Given that all those Bundestag members will be flying from BER instead of TXL, I would imagine that there will be an FTL and SEN lounge open from Da
: Yes, there will be a 1600 sqm. Lufthansa Lounge (both SEN and Business) in BER. It will be located at the north end of the main pier.
: You don't know Germany :lol: - there is a clear regulation that inner German travel has to be by rail. Exceptions need to be justified and approved -
: Wow, this is very significant. So much for LH never wanting to establish a hub at BER... Maybe no long-haul (yet?), but definitely an important Europe
: Not only I say that since years. Include THF in that line..... Looking at the test LH is running at BER, or will be running, 30 new destinations soun
: This may have been discussed on here already, but why isn't LH operating any long-haul flights at all ex-BER? I appreciate their main hubs are in FRA,
: As this is taken from the LH press release, does this confirm that LH are 'retaining' LHR-BER when bmi is sold?
: because there are not enough passengers.and they have three hubs already from which they fly longhaul, that is more than any other European carrier..
: If you calculate this this way, you are right, On the other side there is lot of synergy to handle one airport instead of three, starting with runnin
: Up until a few years ago, the average complaint from Western Germany was how the shitty city of Berlin could even think of building this overdimensio
: I am not advocating the splitting of the passenger services likt it's done in ROM or MIl, not to mention London. But they should have retained at leas
: While I agree that it would have been whiser in the long-term to retain at least one runway in TXL for governmental and General Aviation use... TXL is
: [wrong, there's incoming traffic. People with money to spend., One of the most stupid arguments with which Wowereit has won the referendum about THF
: No, they won't. They usally have to book the cheapest flight (Kostengünstigkeitsprinzip). We had a few elections since the unfortunate plan to close
: I am a political person, I am alway aware of what is going on. This was recently, this week, some curious message from a CDU politician calling for a
: In Berlin yes, unfortunatel the roots of the tree are in Frankfurt... Discussion now seems to go about the plans to have 4U staff on LH planes to get
: If you had bothered to read the link, you would have learned that THF generated losses of around 10 Mio. € each year when it was active, in 2010 it
: Not sure if there is really such a regulation. I was on a LH flight MUC-HAM quite some time ago where Mr. Stoiber came on board, and I also know the
: It's ridiculous. Worst is, BER already had a 3rd runway for free, the SXF north runway which has been mostly torn down. And those runways at THF or T
: The SXF north runway, which was ending around 20 Meters from a settlement, would have had to be rebuilt completely, as it was quite hilly, made out o
: the only thing is, I do not believe the Wowereit administration anything. I am not sure if Berlin is still on kameralistik or Doppik accounting, I be
: Why are they changing airports in Moscow? I know Vnukovo is scheduled to open a new terminal soon, but is this a Berlin-only change?
: While I agree on THF, TXL has no justification whatsoever. Middle of the city, awful terminal. With the new train connections, even travel times from
: I would agree on that, unfortunately reality is that THF is closed and can never be opened again. The permanent damage has been done. In lieue of THF
: Geneva, Milan and Madrid are not in the list... three big destinations in Europe.... Milan and Madrid could be because Ryanir and Easyjet but Geneva??
: GVA is on the list (= Genf) Pity LX won't operate it, but at least LH fills an important gap here.
: Milan is on the list, LIN is Milan´s sort of city airport (and incidentally the main cause for the demise of LH Italia) I have heard that crews for t
: LH also requested slots in RTM, it could be that LH is planning to start ops BER-RTM, although FRA or MUC would make more sense to me.
: Let me get this straight: you claim something that you cannot backup by anything, you dispute a written source and blame it on the accounting practic
: No, there have been totally different figures previously, when THF was still operating and earning money. It is safe to say that the income from flig
: Good to see the beginning of a battle against AB, U2 and FR! I hope LH does not take long to add LIS, MAD, DUB, BLL, GOT, WRO, KRK, LED, BTS, PRG.
: Let me quote wikipedia on this: It may or may not be the reason.
: They've applied for Summer 2012 slots at MUC to serve RTM https://sws.fhkd.org/