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Ukraine/Iran Set For $2.4 Billion An-158 Contract  
User currently offlineqantas747flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3869 times:

It looks like the long planned deal between Iran and Ukraine for joint production of the An-158 is close to materializing:

http://www.ukrainianjournal.com/index.php?w=article&id=13481

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User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2788 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3788 times:
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Oh America and the West are not going to be happy about it... Unfortunately for them doubt that there is much they can do.

User currently offlineqantas747flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3681 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 1):
Oh America and the West are not going to be happy about it

That's for sure.

If things were different politically this money would undoubtedly have gone to Boeing or Airbus as part of Iran's much needed fleet renewal.

Let's hope for the passengers sake that this helps improve air safety levels in Iran and helps reduce the levels of anxiety felt by passengers on board...


User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2788 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3659 times:
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Quoting qantas747flyer (Reply 2):
If things were different politically this money would undoubtedly have gone to Boeing or Airbus as part of Iran's much needed fleet renewal.

Let's hope for the passengers sake that this helps improve air safety levels in Iran and helps reduce the levels of anxiety felt by passengers on board...

Not only that, but this might help and push Antonov to build new models and improve its current ones. They are quite lucky that they have such an huge exclusive customer!


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2780 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3624 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 3):
Not only that, but this might help and push Antonov to build new models and improve its current ones. They are quite lucky that they have such an huge exclusive customer!

International Politics aside...it is good to see a big order for this aircraft...something more interesting in the sky, I miss seeing the BAE-146 in the United Express/Air Wisconsin fleet...

Off topic...but because of the high wing, would this be a good replacement for the BAE-146 into airports like ASE?


User currently offlineirshava From Ukraine, joined Oct 2011, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3331 times:

Its a shame that Ukraine is taking its production elsewhere... they could be putting Ukrainians to work and yet here they are "jointly producing" An-158s....

Why can't Iran just buy them. Bad idea in my opinion.

However glad to here that the plane is getting attention. Hopefully westerners will order the An 148/158 family (it doesn't hurt to dream :P)

Quoting ju068 (Reply 1):
Oh America and the West are not going to be happy about it

Ditto - but then again - what power does American have over Ukraine?



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User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2776 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2858 times:

Quoting irshava (Reply 5):
Its a shame that Ukraine is taking its production elsewhere... they could be putting Ukrainians to work and yet here they are "jointly producing" An-158s....

Why can't Iran just buy them. Bad idea in my opinion.

But on the other hand, the An-158 is getting a much needed boost through this, and joint production was likely the condition for the deal, so not much of a choice for Antonov. The design expertise remains in Ukraine however. I guess this will be similar to the An-140 deal.


User currently offlineqantas747flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2791 times:

Quoting irshava (Reply 5):
Why can't Iran just buy them. Bad idea in my opinion.

I guess the Iranians plan is to use these platforms (An-140 & An158) to develop their expertise and skills in country. No doubt this program will create hundreds if not thousands of jobs for Iranians so it is likely that the joint production aspect was a key part of the deal for them.


User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7718 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2689 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 1):

Oh America and the West are not going to be happy about it... Unfortunately for them doubt that there is much they can do.

I don't see why you say that. Relations between Ukraine and the USA were fine until this happened. I'd even argue they were getting more cozy as mother Russia evolves politically. Americans don't even need a visa to visit Ukraine. This will really ice the relationship with the USA.


User currently offlineirshava From Ukraine, joined Oct 2011, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2583 times:

Quoting r2rho (Reply 6):

The attention is nice - the fact that production will be in Iran means multiple schematics given to the Iranians and I wouldn't be surprised if we a see an Iranian version come out soon.

Quoting qantas747flyer (Reply 7):

Sounds like more of a profit for the Iranians than the Ukrainians.

Quoting enilria (Reply 8):

Its clearly evident that Mr. Yanukovich doesn't care as he is inclined to cooperate with the Russians more. For him making America upset isn't a big deal.



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User currently offlinelollomz From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 297 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2555 times:
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How many An-158 they will build in Iran? Any idea about the number?

User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7718 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2535 times:

Quoting irshava (Reply 9):
Its clearly evident that Mr. Yanukovich doesn't care as he is inclined to cooperate with the Russians more. For him making America upset isn't a big deal.

That's interesting, although in speaking to individual Russian and Ukraine citizens they seem to have mutual disrespect for each other.


User currently offlineFlaps From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1301 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2523 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 1):
Oh America and the West are not going to be happy about it... Unfortunately for them doubt that there is much they can do.

Oh you might be surprised! Most of us reallly don't give a hoot about about Iran or any of the political games on either side of that fence. We're all more concerned with staying fed and keeping a roof over our heads.

As for this deal, I am glad to see the An-158 getting some traction regardless of where it sells. As an enthusiast I think it's a beautiful aircraft and I hope it becomes very successful. Congrats Ukraine.


User currently offlineirshava From Ukraine, joined Oct 2011, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2458 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 11):

To be honest its not the disrespect - its the feeling of being independent. Russians still believe Ukraine should of been part of Russia but the Ukrainians want to be independent.

The current government is honestly more slanted toward working with Russia which is why the topic of joining NATO and the EU isn't really going on in Ukrainian politics.



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User currently offlinekoreana380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2118 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 1):
Oh America and the West are not going to be happy about it... Unfortunately for them doubt that there is much they can do.

Any chance that a formal agreement will be signed before the end of the 2011 Dubai Air show?


User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2788 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2037 times:
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Quoting koreana380 (Reply 14):

Any chance that a formal agreement will be signed before the end of the 2011 Dubai Air show?

That would be quite funny actually, wouldn't it make it one of the biggest deal at the air show?


User currently offlinelollomz From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 297 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1966 times:
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According with Wikipedia the number of AN-148/158 for Iran is 128. Is it correct?

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