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Ukraine/Iran Set For $2.4 Billion An-158 Contract  
User currently offlineqantas747flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3730 times:

It looks like the long planned deal between Iran and Ukraine for joint production of the An-158 is close to materializing:

http://www.ukrainianjournal.com/index.php?w=article&id=13481

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User currently offlineju068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3649 times:

Oh America and the West are not going to be happy about it... Unfortunately for them doubt that there is much they can do.

User currently offlineqantas747flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3542 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 1):
Oh America and the West are not going to be happy about it

That's for sure.

If things were different politically this money would undoubtedly have gone to Boeing or Airbus as part of Iran's much needed fleet renewal.

Let's hope for the passengers sake that this helps improve air safety levels in Iran and helps reduce the levels of anxiety felt by passengers on board...


User currently offlineju068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3520 times:

Quoting qantas747flyer (Reply 2):
If things were different politically this money would undoubtedly have gone to Boeing or Airbus as part of Iran's much needed fleet renewal.

Let's hope for the passengers sake that this helps improve air safety levels in Iran and helps reduce the levels of anxiety felt by passengers on board...

Not only that, but this might help and push Antonov to build new models and improve its current ones. They are quite lucky that they have such an huge exclusive customer!


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2691 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3485 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 3):
Not only that, but this might help and push Antonov to build new models and improve its current ones. They are quite lucky that they have such an huge exclusive customer!

International Politics aside...it is good to see a big order for this aircraft...something more interesting in the sky, I miss seeing the BAE-146 in the United Express/Air Wisconsin fleet...

Off topic...but because of the high wing, would this be a good replacement for the BAE-146 into airports like ASE?


User currently onlineirshava From Ukraine, joined Oct 2011, 214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3192 times:

Its a shame that Ukraine is taking its production elsewhere... they could be putting Ukrainians to work and yet here they are "jointly producing" An-158s....

Why can't Iran just buy them. Bad idea in my opinion.

However glad to here that the plane is getting attention. Hopefully westerners will order the An 148/158 family (it doesn't hurt to dream :P)

Quoting ju068 (Reply 1):
Oh America and the West are not going to be happy about it

Ditto - but then again - what power does American have over Ukraine?



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User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2577 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2719 times:

Quoting irshava (Reply 5):
Its a shame that Ukraine is taking its production elsewhere... they could be putting Ukrainians to work and yet here they are "jointly producing" An-158s....

Why can't Iran just buy them. Bad idea in my opinion.

But on the other hand, the An-158 is getting a much needed boost through this, and joint production was likely the condition for the deal, so not much of a choice for Antonov. The design expertise remains in Ukraine however. I guess this will be similar to the An-140 deal.


User currently offlineqantas747flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 2652 times:

Quoting irshava (Reply 5):
Why can't Iran just buy them. Bad idea in my opinion.

I guess the Iranians plan is to use these platforms (An-140 & An158) to develop their expertise and skills in country. No doubt this program will create hundreds if not thousands of jobs for Iranians so it is likely that the joint production aspect was a key part of the deal for them.


User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7036 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2550 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 1):

Oh America and the West are not going to be happy about it... Unfortunately for them doubt that there is much they can do.

I don't see why you say that. Relations between Ukraine and the USA were fine until this happened. I'd even argue they were getting more cozy as mother Russia evolves politically. Americans don't even need a visa to visit Ukraine. This will really ice the relationship with the USA.


User currently onlineirshava From Ukraine, joined Oct 2011, 214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2444 times:

Quoting r2rho (Reply 6):

The attention is nice - the fact that production will be in Iran means multiple schematics given to the Iranians and I wouldn't be surprised if we a see an Iranian version come out soon.

Quoting qantas747flyer (Reply 7):

Sounds like more of a profit for the Iranians than the Ukrainians.

Quoting enilria (Reply 8):

Its clearly evident that Mr. Yanukovich doesn't care as he is inclined to cooperate with the Russians more. For him making America upset isn't a big deal.



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User currently offlinelollomz From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2416 times:
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How many An-158 they will build in Iran? Any idea about the number?

User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7036 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

Quoting irshava (Reply 9):
Its clearly evident that Mr. Yanukovich doesn't care as he is inclined to cooperate with the Russians more. For him making America upset isn't a big deal.

That's interesting, although in speaking to individual Russian and Ukraine citizens they seem to have mutual disrespect for each other.


User currently offlineFlaps From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1258 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2384 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 1):
Oh America and the West are not going to be happy about it... Unfortunately for them doubt that there is much they can do.

Oh you might be surprised! Most of us reallly don't give a hoot about about Iran or any of the political games on either side of that fence. We're all more concerned with staying fed and keeping a roof over our heads.

As for this deal, I am glad to see the An-158 getting some traction regardless of where it sells. As an enthusiast I think it's a beautiful aircraft and I hope it becomes very successful. Congrats Ukraine.


User currently onlineirshava From Ukraine, joined Oct 2011, 214 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2319 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 11):

To be honest its not the disrespect - its the feeling of being independent. Russians still believe Ukraine should of been part of Russia but the Ukrainians want to be independent.

The current government is honestly more slanted toward working with Russia which is why the topic of joining NATO and the EU isn't really going on in Ukrainian politics.



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User currently offlinekoreana380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1979 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 1):
Oh America and the West are not going to be happy about it... Unfortunately for them doubt that there is much they can do.

Any chance that a formal agreement will be signed before the end of the 2011 Dubai Air show?


User currently offlineju068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

Quoting koreana380 (Reply 14):

Any chance that a formal agreement will be signed before the end of the 2011 Dubai Air show?

That would be quite funny actually, wouldn't it make it one of the biggest deal at the air show?


User currently offlinelollomz From Italy, joined Sep 2005, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1827 times:
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According with Wikipedia the number of AN-148/158 for Iran is 128. Is it correct?

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