Flying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4111 posts, RR: 39 Posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7661 times:
Quote: Turkish low-cost carrier Pegasus Airlines is in the late stages of weighing up offers for re-engined aircraft from Airbus and Boeing. Serhan Ulga, CFO, Pegasus Airlines, says the company will place the order for more than one hundred narrowbodies by the end of this year. The order would be worth about $9 billion at list prices.
Brenintw From Taiwan, joined Jul 2006, 1452 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 7594 times:
While the blurb says "both manufacturers," the page title and URL say that the order is going the way of the 737MAX ... be interesting to see which way it will go.
I'm tired of the A vs. B sniping. Neither make planes that shed wings randomly!
tk1244 From Netherlands, joined May 2007, 311 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7416 times:
Some time ago Ali Sabanci said that they would retire the A319/A320's operating for Izair and that they would continue with 737 only. Can't find the source anymore, but I think they will choose the 737MAX. We'll see
"The future is in the skies. For any nation that cannot defend its skies will never be confident of its future." Atatürk
leftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 656 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7294 times:
Well, I think it makes sense to continue with 737 series, as their current fleet (excluding IzAir subsidiary) is entirely 738s. In any case, 100 planes is a lot of planes to fill, I hope they have plans made on how to utilize them. Although Turkish domestic market still has potential, without open skies with other countries or Turkey joining EU single aviation market it is a little too optimistic.
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4108 posts, RR: 13 Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 7265 times:
More than one hundred NBs!!!!!!
It is just hard to believe that Pegasus can do this financially or there is a need for such a big LCC in Turkey to compete with TK or TK's sister companies AnadoluJet and Sunexpress!
Looking into the 10-15 years from now, TK with 250 NBs, Pegasus with 125 NBs, AnadoluJet with 50 NBs, Sunexpress with 100 NBs, Atlasjet with 50 NBs, Onur Air with 75 NBs..... Really!!!
clydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1001 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6636 times:
Quoting ba319-131 (Reply 5): 100 new planes seems an incredible order for Pegasus, they must have a huge growth strategy planned.
While an order of this size seems unrealistic, if you look at a few factors for the future it makes more sense.
Turkey is the 18th most populated country in the world and compared to Europe, only Germany has a bigger population.
The Turkish economy has been booming in recent years making Air travel affordable to more and more of the population, and huge potential for future growth.
The size and terrain of the country make domestic air travel a very effective way to get from one place to another.
Tourism had had a massive increase in recent years driven by price advantages compared to European traditional markets that became expensive under the Euro. This will continue to grow.
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4108 posts, RR: 13 Reply 9, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6429 times:
Sure, I agree.
If all goes well, Turkey might have 3 of the 10 busiest airports in Europe in 15 years.
Turkey might have over 50 airports with NB service,
and the Turkish population will be near 90 million.
By then the buying power of those folks might allow them to travel overseas more and more.
Also with things settling down in the Middle East and North Africa and lifting of visa requirements between Turkey and bunch of countries, all this could be possible;
again if all goes well....
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26722 posts, RR: 83 Reply 10, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6343 times:
So that appears to be 9 customers with over 700 commitments for the MAX.
Looks like Boeing may be more fashionably late to the party than just late...
TK1244 From Netherlands, joined May 2007, 311 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6210 times:
If this order continues, will it be divided between Pegasus Airlines and Air Berlin Turkey? Or will the new birds go to Pegasus, while the current -800s go to Air Berlin Turkey? Any thoughts?
"The future is in the skies. For any nation that cannot defend its skies will never be confident of its future." Atatürk
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26722 posts, RR: 83 Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2075 times:
Quoting astuteman (Reply 14): Unless they're already in the mix, of course...
If Pegasus had an MoU with Boeing already, it would be odd for them to issue a statement saying they had yet to make a decision and were examining RFPs from Boeing and Airbus.
Quoting Flying-Tiger (Thread starter): Turkish low-cost carrier Pegasus Airlines is in the late stages of weighing up offers for re-engined aircraft from Airbus and Boeing. Serhan Ulga, CFO, Pegasus Airlines, says the company will place the order for more than one hundred narrowbodies by the end of this year.
Byrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2148 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1845 times:
Their new livery is absolutely horrible. The airline is named Pegasus but they decide to remove the winged horse? The "flyPGS.com" painted on the side just follows the lack of creativity trend of using xxx.com in liveries.
The 747: The hands who designed it were guided by god.
kanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2468 posts, RR: 21 Reply 18, posted (1 year 6 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1670 times:
Quoting TK787 (Reply 4): More than one hundred NBs!!!!!!
It is just hard to believe that Pegasus can do this financially or there is a need for such a big LCC in Turkey to compete with TK or TK's sister companies AnadoluJet and Sunexpress!
Looking into the 10-15 years from now, TK with 250 NBs, Pegasus with 125 NBs, AnadoluJet with 50 NBs, Sunexpress with 100 NBs, Atlasjet with 50 NBs, Onur Air with 75 NBs..... Really!!!
Remember deliveries will not start the next day and will probably be spread out over 7-10 years, so add obsolescence of existing units, sale of some models.. and the picture does not look like an over supply issue.
bahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1727 posts, RR: 12 Reply 19, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1320 times:
PGT has had nothing but bad experience with the A319s and A320s they have received. (It's the higher management 's word not mine). The airline has management in place from Turkish and Istanbul Airlines days with Boeing experience and they love the product. As a poster said, this is Boeing's order to lose. Boeing Capital, US Eximbank created a really good environment for PGT to finance their existing orders and I am sure they will be instrumental in the next batch of orders.
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