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Air China To Fly To Copenhagen  
User currently offlineLIPZ From Austria, joined Jun 2006, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3884 times:

As per CPH's website Air China will begin 4xw service with A332 between Beijing and Copenhagen in S12

Full press release
CPH/UK/Newsroom/News/2011/Air+China+to+launch+service+to+Copenhagen.htm" target="_blank">http://www.cph.dk/CPH/UK/Newsroom/Ne...o+launch+service+to+Copenhagen.htm

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User currently offlinefly2yyz From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1045 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3702 times:

So will we see this route cut after a few months?

User currently offlinecopenhagenboy From Denmark, joined Sep 2001, 598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3316 times:

Quoting fly2yyz (Reply 1):

Can I ask you why you think so?


User currently offlinesomething From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 21
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3284 times:

CPH already has a ?- times weekly SAS A343 on CPH-PEK-CPH and a ?- weekly China Eastern 77FLR. Maybe SAS needs their A340 for another route from ARN or OSL, or maybe it's just due for maintenance and they asked Air China to help them out keeping the route up?

So not the most exciting news from a traveller's point of view, but always great to see new liveries around  



..sick of it. -K. Pilkington.
User currently offlinecopenhagenboy From Denmark, joined Sep 2001, 598 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3249 times:

@something
Huh, China Eastern does not fly on CPH, where you get that information?

[Edited 2011-11-15 10:32:06]

User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3121 times:

China Eastern did fly to Copenhagen few years ago. It was an extension of their FRA service if I remember it correctly.
It lasted however just a few months.

Exiting news for CPH if becomes a reality.
With the release of IATA summer slots 2012 due in few days, it seems like an early leakage and lets hope that Air China follows this up with an actual launch.


User currently offlineg2scandinavia From Norway, joined Jun 2010, 535 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3042 times:

Quoting copenhagenboy (Reply 4):
CPH already has a ?- times weekly SAS A343 on CPH-PEK-CPH and a ?- weekly China Eastern 77FLR. Maybe SAS needs their A340 for another route from ARN or OSL, or maybe it's just due for maintenance and they asked Air China to help them out keeping the route up?

If so, I can guarantee you that its not a service from OSL to China. The Chinese government did freeze all official contact with Norway because of the 2010 Nobel Peace Price. This goes for air traffic between the contries aswell.

A service with Air China was very close in relation to the planned free trade agreement between Norway and China.
Several solutions where discussed with an extension of the ARN service being one of them.
In fact China Eastern withdrew their planned PVG Cargo service to OSL, two days after the reveal of the 2010 Nobel Peace Price laureate.


User currently offlinesas767 From Denmark, joined Dec 1999, 417 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2980 times:

Quoting something (Reply 3):
CPH already has a ?- times weekly SAS A343 on CPH-PEK-CPH and a ?- weekly China Eastern 77FLR. Maybe SAS needs their A340 for another route from ARN or OSL, or maybe it's just due for maintenance and they asked Air China to help them out keeping the route up?

So not the most exciting news from a traveller's point of view, but always great to see new liveries around

Seems like you are creating you own reality.

The new Air China route to Copenhagen has nothing to do with SAS and is not a replacement of the daily CPH-PEK route operated by SAS. The Air China route will be in addition to the SAS route bringing the total number of weekly frequencies between CPH and PEK to 11. But expect code-share and cooperation between SK and CA on this route.


User currently offlinesas767 From Denmark, joined Dec 1999, 417 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2969 times:

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 5):
Exiting news for CPH if becomes a reality.
With the release of IATA summer slots 2012 due in few days, it seems like an early leakage and lets hope that Air China follows this up with an actual launch.

? The route is confirmed by Air China - so I really expect them to follow up with a launch... Do you expect CPH to announce this route without a confirmation. I has been in the pipeline for a long time but was not official confirmed until now.


User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6569 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2628 times:

Quoting something (Reply 3):
weekly China Eastern 77FLR
Quoting copenhagenboy (Reply 4):
@something
Huh, China Eastern does not fly on CPH, where you get that information?



Perhaps he means China Cargo (CK) which has the same livery as MU but different titles?

I think the new route could do well for CA and I'm sure CA can connect passengers onto SK flights to other points in Europe.

The777Man



Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....CI, MU, LX and LH 777s
User currently offlinesomething From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2511 times:

Quoting copenhagenboy (Reply 4):

@something
Huh, China Eastern does not fly on CPH, where you get that information?

I wrote it's a 77FLR, and yes they fly PEK-CPH a few times a week. The point being: There is a lot good market between CPH and PEK.

--->

Quoting The777Man (Reply 9):
Perhaps he means China Cargo (CK) which has the same livery as MU but different titles?

That's exactly what I meant. China Cargo is a joint venture between China Eastern (70%) and China Ocean Shipping (30%), hence the same livery as China Eastern. Magnificent airplane, by the way.

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 5):
China Eastern did fly to Copenhagen few years ago. It was an extension of their FRA service if I remember it correctly.

That's right, I didn't even think about that one. They're trying the same thing on PVG-FRA-HAM-FRA-PVG right now.

Quoting g2scandinavia (Reply 6):
If so, I can guarantee you that its not a service from OSL to China. The Chinese government did freeze all official contact with Norway because of the 2010 Nobel Peace Price. This goes for air traffic between the contries aswell.

A service with Air China was very close in relation to the planned free trade agreement between Norway and China.
Several solutions where discussed with an extension of the ARN service being one of them.
In fact China Eastern withdrew their planned PVG Cargo service to OSL, two days after the reveal of the 2010 Nobel Peace Price laureate.

That's an excellent point and I had almost forgotten about this incident. However, most countries piss China off in one way or another and vice versa. The USA are selling weapons to Taiwan and yet you don't see their trade impaired. As long as there's money to be made, China will look the other way. I'm pretty sure OSL will see direct PEK service within the next 1-2 years, be it pax, cargo or both.

Quoting sas767 (Reply 7):
Seems like you are creating you own reality.

The new Air China route to Copenhagen has nothing to do with SAS and is not a replacement of the daily CPH-PEK route operated by SAS. The Air China route will be in addition to the SAS route bringing the total number of weekly frequencies between CPH and PEK to 11. But expect code-share and cooperation between SK and CA on this route.

The ''maybe'' I introduced the sentence with indicated the following was speculation. Besides that, airlines cooperate with one another when they're in the same alliance. 'cause they're allies. If the additional CA service would threaten the prosperity of the SAS flights, it wouldn't happen. Unless of course SAS needs a favor from the Chinese authorities (landing rights to open new routes etc.) but that would go too far at this point. ''Trade'' is always a give and take.



..sick of it. -K. Pilkington.
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