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St.Vincent Land So Beautiful-Caribbean Aviation 92  
User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1436 posts, RR: 2
Posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 16494 times:

Greetings to one and all!

Welcome to the 92nd instalment of the Caribbean Aviation Thread.This instalment is dedicated to Saint Vincent and the Grenadines!




Stanch resistance by native Caribs prevented colonization on Saint Vincent until 1719. The island chain was disputed between France and the United Kingdom for most of the 18th century, before eventually seceding to the latter in 1783. Between 1960 and 1962, Saint Vincent and the Grenadines was a separate administrative unit of the Federation of the West Indies. Autonomy was granted in 1969 and independence in 1979. The capital of Saint Vincent and the Grenadines is Kingstown with the island's main airport being Ebenezer Theodore Joshua Airport aka. Arnos Vale Airport (SVD).



Just the name St Vincent and the Grenadines evokes an emotive response with visions of exotic and idyllic island life. An island chain buried deep within the Caribbean Sea, uncluttered by tourist exploitation; white sand beaches on deserted islands, sky-blue water gently lapping the shore and barely a soul around. Thirty-two islands dot the seascape, all vying to one-up each other in terms of tranquility. Once you get off the big island and into the Grenadines, everything changes. In Bequia, beaches stretch out before you, the pace of life slows to a crawl and the desire to go home vanishes. You’ll find unassuming budget hideaways, where you can escape from the world and live like a king on the income of a pauper. Or you can spend time on the island of Mustique where renting a house for the week will cost more than buying a luxury car.


Argyle International Airport

Argyle International Airport is the future international airport that is currently under construction. The groundbreaking took place in 2008, and the facility is expected to be completed by early 2014. The airport will replace the existing E.T. Joshua Airport, increasing passenger capacity by nearly four times compared to the older facility.More information can be accessed at the following link.

http://svgiadc.com/index.asp



******NEWS FEED******

Boeing 787-8 (N787ZA) and 747-8 conduct high humidity testing in BGI
LI still looking at partnership with CAL
CAL and Grenada to renew memorandum of understanding
CAL gets World Travel Award for Caribbean's Leading Airline.
Insel Air introduces BRM as it's 16th destination and looks to expand codeshare with US.
CAL fined US$60,000 by US DOT for limiting compensation to pax for delays
New GEO charter airline (EZJet) to commence operations with B767-200ER on GEO-JFK route initially.
First CAL ATR 72-600 (9Y-TTA) series delivered to base @ POS.
CAL takes delivery of 15th 738, ex Air Europa bird, registration (9Y-MBJ).
CAL to start 4x weekly KIN-MIA (BW 21/24) service December 13th with B738.
CAL to start 2x weekly POS-GND-YYZ (BW 608/609) service December 15th with B738





9Y-TTA resting in REC on her ferry flight.



Happy Posting!!


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User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2706 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 16454 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
Argyle International Airport

AA waiting for the opening so to start MIA - St Vincent?



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User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 16333 times:

What is that device under the tail on the ATR? it starts forward of the hummingbird on the underside if you understand my description.

User currently offlinetime2lyme From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Oct 2008, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 16283 times:

Quoting baje427 (Reply 2):
What is that device under the tail on the ATR? it starts forward of the hummingbird on the underside if you understand my description.

That'll be the arrestor hook for carrier landings   


User currently offlinefpofllflyboi From Bahamas, joined Jun 2005, 234 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 16266 times:

Anyone knows how the Vision Airlines runs going for FPO? (i.e. loads and possibility for more destinations)

User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 10009 posts, RR: 15
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 16259 times:

What kind of strange fruit is the red/black fruit? It looks like it's the seed of the fruit in the photo? Looks more like fruit from the movie Avatar 

Nice photos of the Caribbean Airlines ATR72. Where were they taken? Air Jamaica will restart MIA is per other threads, here's to hoping they will re-instate CUR as well...

A388


User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 715 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 16203 times:

Thank you for the new thread. Nice pics of TTA. Amerijet looks like it's landing on the grass.

Quoting A388 (Reply 5):
What kind of strange fruit is the red/black fruit?

That should be nutmeg.

GUYAIR707


User currently offlineJM02 From France, joined Mar 2009, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16176 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
Argyle International Airport

St Vincent and the Grenadines; one of my favourite places in the caribbean. Does anyone know anything about the Argyle airport having cross winds issues and being unsuitable for anything bigger than a 738 or is that just bad talking from the opposition.
If anyone has ever been in SVD when the Amerijet leaves after it's weekly flight they can confirm that its departure is quite a sight; loud and scary springs to mind.


User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16156 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 5):
What kind of strange fruit is the red/black fruit? It looks like it's the seed of the fruit in the photo? Looks more like fruit from the movie Avatar 
Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 6):
That should be nutmeg.

It is a nutmeg alright. A very popular spice in Jamaica as well used in the preparation of porridge, eggnog etc. Think it is extremely popular in Grenada ( spice island ) too.



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User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 715 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 16147 times:

Quoting time2lyme (Reply 258):
Mainly because (as so many have already stated) pax don't like to go south before they go north, which I can understand.

(From previous thread)

I don't mean KIN-POS-LGW which I think is a far sojourn south, but like from Antigua south, including GEO, CCS, PBM, and as you suggested, TAB. Even POS-KIN-LGW I think is too far out for POS pax.

Incidently I see you mentioned POS-GEO-LGW which is a south-north route.

GUYAIR707

[Edited 2011-11-17 10:53:46]

User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1573 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 16057 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 1):

Unless they get subsdies there will be no AA MIA SVD route. The big honchos who do Canouan, etc wouldnt deal with MIA...thats what their private jets are for.

Because Surinam is close to Trinidad and PY is a huge money loser they might be a candidate. I suspect this is Nicholas' nonsense. Remember who you are dealing with.

Also every island in the E/Cbn enjoys sertvive to LGW. Why will anyone trek down to POS and then back up to LGW? If POS cant stand on its own...or with intransits from GEO it will not work. Maybe they hope that a nonstop will bleed passengers from BA, which will then reduce service. eliminating their advatange of daily flights.



[Edited 2011-11-17 13:39:58]

[Edited 2011-11-17 13:42:38]

User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 715 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 15985 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 10):
Also every island in the E/Cbn enjoys sertvive to LGW. Why will anyone trek down to POS and then back up to LGW? If POS cant stand on its own...or with intransits from GEO it will not work

Yeah maybe, and as Hummingbird said on another thread it would depend on the time slot CAL has at LGW and coordinating arrivals/departures to coincide with POS-LGW and then LGW-POS. In addition CAL may need more a/c to sell/feed that service. Probably not worth doing it that way or at all, let's see.

GUYAIR707


User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2706 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 15962 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 10):
Because Surinam is close to Trinidad and PY is a huge money loser they might be a candidate. I suspect this is Nicholas' nonsense.

Well Sranang isn't in good terms with the European Aviation Authorities so that's probably why Nicholas may think it's possible to fly BW B767 POS-PBM-AMS on behalf of PY. Or it just was only a random coincidence.

Back to BW/JM LGW service, judging by the different opinions posted here, maybe twice weekly KIN-LGW-GEO-POS-LGW-KIN and once weekly KIN-LGW-POS-GEO-LGW-KIN could be the optimal route use for the B767.



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User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 15889 times:

There was a US E190 in BGI today assume its a delivery flight I'm curious before BW discontinued their London services they competed against BA and VS with an outdated product . Would CAL with an upgraded product not be able to compete even on the Eastern Caribbean routes?

User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 653 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 15833 times:







User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1573 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 15827 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 12):



One way to ensure that the KIN LGW route fails is to force Jamaicans to endure a LOOOOOOONGGGGG trip to LOndon when a nonstop is available. POS will still stand alone as no one will fly out of KIN on that route.

BW taking over PY makes sense. The problem is Nicholas is so arrogant he might turn the Surinamers off. Doing some thing like making them connect thru POS to AMS.


User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2706 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 15796 times:

Quoting guyanam (Reply 15):
One way to ensure that the KIN LGW route fails is to force Jamaicans to endure a LOOOOOOONGGGGG trip to LOndon when a nonstop is available. POS will still stand alone as no one will fly out of KIN on that route.

In the referred post, I didn't mention a KIN-POS-LGW route but KIN-LGW and POS/GEO-LGW..



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User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1436 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 15757 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 5):
Nice photos of the Caribbean Airlines ATR72. Where were they taken?

They were taken on TTA's rest period in REC.

Quoting baje427 (Reply 2):
What is that device under the tail on the ATR? it starts forward of the hummingbird on the underside if you understand my description.

No idea. Hopefully I'll know soon enough.

So it appears that the worst dou ever to grace CAL, Nicholas & Maharaj are intent on seeing "big plane" fly to all sorts of fancy destinations. I tell you, if this crap persists where there are announcements about unreasonable routes with diabolically erroneous timelines for startup (BOM before year's end    ), NO SANE CEO is ever going to grace CAL.......at least once these clowns are still there.

So for now.....I will put this potential Fabregas candidate to the back of my mind.



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User currently offlinebeeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1804 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 15693 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 5):
What kind of strange fruit is the red/black fruit? It looks like it's the seed of the fruit in the photo? Looks more like fruit from the movie Avatar

It look like a nutmag.

Quoting A388 (Reply 5):
Air Jamaica will restart MIA is per other threads, here's to hoping they will re-instate CUR as well...

Dont worry soon enough.

Quoting BW424 (Reply 17):
Quoting baje427 (Reply 2):
What is that device under the tail on the ATR? it starts forward of the hummingbird on the underside if you understand my description.

No idea. Hopefully I'll know soon enough.

Could be some kind of tail support to prevent the plane from sitting on its tail but I could be wrong cause it is not on any of the other ATR72-600 pic I have seen so far.


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User currently offlinebloodyrascal From Bahamas, joined Mar 2007, 191 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 15631 times:

According to wikipedia Delta will be resuming their NAS-LGA after dropping the flight over a year ago. At first I was skeptical but did a flight search for the startup date on delta.com and noticed that it is indeed correct and they will be serving the route with a M88. I wish them all the best with this route again. Before they dropped the route at times delta had two flights and even operated the 757 on the route for a short while. Personally I think the A-319 would have been a better fit for the rout IMO

User currently offlinewadadli From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Nov 2007, 90 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 15606 times:

AA's JFK-ANU started yesterday

http://www.antiguaobserver.com/?p=67495


User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 15530 times:

Noticed an AB A332 is inbound to BGI thanks for the guesses on what's on the underside of the ATR tail the winter rush will begin shortly will be nice to see BGI busy again.

User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Sep 2008, 1436 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 month 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 15312 times:

"Grenada Tourism Announces new service to Toronto"

"ST GEORGE'S, Grenada - Grenada's Tourism Officials have announced that Air Canada will begin direct flights between St George's and Toronto from the middle of next month.

It is a development that the officials say will give a big boost to the island's tourism during the peak winter months, and at a time when two other airlines are beginning their seasonal schedules.

Charter airline Sunwing is also resuming its annual one-month charter schedule from mid December, while Air Canada Vacations is also set to start its now five-month annual winter schedule.

But it is the new deal with Caribbean Airlines – which will last indefinitely – that has Tourism Minister Peter David excited about the prospect of a long term visitor arrival hike from the North American country."

http://sflcn.com/story.php?id=11022

Very nice to hear that CAL is spreading its wings in GND and profitably at that. So GND gets service from CAL to POS, JFK and now soon YYZ!



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User currently offlineairfrancejfk From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 480 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 15209 times:

Looks like Guyana is finally getting a major upgrade to the airport at Timehri.

http://ncnguyana.com/ncngy/index.php...es-major-airport-expansion-project


User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 715 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 month 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 15123 times:

Quoting airfrancejfk (Reply 23):


Yes looks good, they are saying 8 jetbridges, compared to none, for those who know GEO, and extension of runway by 3000 feet, however, there are elections on November 28th, so I am not so sure the contract will be honoured if the government changes.

GUYAIR707


25 baje427 : I can understand the runway extension at GEO but is traffic enough to warrant eight jet bridges or is it a case of if they build it they will come. Wi
26 2travel2know2 : Aren't those 5-6 too many? How many times per week GEO gets two jets at the same time? Even if GEO gets pre-used jet-bridges, the investment for 8 at
27 GUYAIR707 : I really don't feel they need jetways at all, waste of money, but...In the morning they have about 2-3 BW's and Delta, that's about it, so I would sa
28 wadadli : There were actually 2 Air Berlin flights into BGI yesterday from DUS and MUC in addition to a Condor flight from FRA. Im going to make an educated gu
29 A388 : Sounds more like trying to win votes more than anything. I can imagine that any political party wants to win a lot of votes since the accident of Car
30 Post contains images yellowtail : Just in case any of you guys missed it in the C. American thread Topic Air took delivery of these two brand new babies (pictured in Wichita on Wed) to
31 Post contains images 2travel2know2 : And HAV
32 GUYAIR707 : 9Y-MBJ flying today as BW600 POS-BW. Not sure if this is the first revenue flight with BW. Anyone knows if ANU is in service? GUYAIR707[Edited 2011-11
33 vfw614 : Maybe slightly off topic. but as those in the know are active in this thread: If I am taking a trip like BON-CUR-ANU or BON-ANU-CUR, I am technically
34 BW424 : Yes, it is its first revenue flight. As for 9Y-ANU, I'm not sure. Probably still undergoing checks. Congrats!! Great to see Tropic air moving from st
35 Post contains images A388 : Hello vfw614, if you use CUR you will be able to leave the airport as you will switch airlines. You need to pick up your luggage as if your an arrivi
36 guyanam : I would imagine that LI would shift all its flights to OGL. CAL will run some flights to OGL, but will have to maintain most at GEO. Changing @ POS i
37 baje427 : Question have CAL ATR 72-600 been put into service as yet? also noticed CAL operated a SKB-YYZ route is this a new route or was it a diversion. BGI do
38 yellowtail : Tropic is all about finding the right fit for the loads....they are sorta in the same boat as Cape Air right now....needing something twin seating ab
39 8b775zq : The SKB-YYZ flight was a charter for the national football team playing the 2nd leg qualifier against Canada.
40 A388 : As per another thread, Aruba's Tiara Air will shortly take delivery of one 737-300 to start flights to FLL. The times for now are: AUA 11:00 - 13:40 F
41 2travel2know2 : Since AUA has in-terminal U.S. Port of Entry, no need for Tiara to use FLL international terminal.
43 Post contains links and images A388 : Guys, as we have no members participating in the forum from the French Caribbean, we should put more attention to this part of the Caribbean as well.
44 aa1818 : Fantastic news. Can't wait to hear more details. Congrats to Air Caraibes! What's their fleet consist of now? I hear your concern, but this forum rel
45 andrefranca : Yeah true! and This A330 might come in time to compete with Air France's brand new flight to the French west indies... Starting on november CDG - PTP
46 Post contains images A388 : As per the planespotters.net database (which in my experience is pretty reliable) the current Air Caraibes fleet consists of the following aircraft:
47 2travel2know2 : Define hub. As known on these forums, hub is an airport where an airline operates plenty of flights timed accordingly so to provide immediate connect
48 Post contains links caribbean484 : I have to agree, but as AA1818 said, with many of us from Trinidad and Tobago, Jamaica, Antigua and Barbados most of the discussion will be focused a
49 A388 : Well, what I understand GOL is working on exactly that. A388
50 yellowtail : I think I do my fair share to keep you guys posted on W. Caribbean stuff. Actually several major carriers (that would be new to this area) doing the
51 Post contains links A388 : Doing a Google search can help my friend: http://www.amigoe.com/english/91801-...-republic-a-great-blow-for-curacao A388
52 andrefranca : Although I love curaçao, (Ariba KORSOU!!!), IMHO Hato doesn't have the guts to act as a "hub", I've been there many times before and I've been to SD
53 Post contains links baje427 : A bit late but Redjet's inaugural flight from BGI-KIN was on Monday http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/redjet-lands-in-jamaica/ In the article th
54 2travel2know2 : While I can't give a personal opinion about SDQ, CUR had plenty of room for a hub operation. Depending on the hour, it has hardly one jet way in use
55 andrefranca : If Hato gets a reform on the way maybe but: Last time I was in CUR, they had: Immigration: CUR 5 desks? (They strugle when there are Indian or other
56 Post contains images 2travel2know2 : I was recently on CUR and well I ask myself, would lots and lots of G3 passengers desperately flock to Korsou or only travel to connect at CUR airpor
57 GUYAIR707 : Stabroek News reports a small plane crash in Guyana: "A light Cessna 152 aircraft which was enroute from Trinidad and Tobago to Guyana, crash-landed i
58 LimaFoxTango : Perhaps there's a market to BGI, but POS? With LI's daily flight to FDF, its fairly easy to get there from BGI and POS. PTP on the other hand, well,
59 A388 : I don't understand why you contradict yourself in this way. First you say CUR is a better option for G3 compared to SDQ (see your reply 54) and now y
60 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : CAL has eyes on American Eagle http://newsday.co.tt/businessday/0,151172.html Ever since chairman of Caribbean Airlines George Nicholas III let out th
61 A388 : American Eagle operating in Puerto Rico isn't American Eagle or the AMR Group itself but Executive Airlines which is a Puerto Rican company who opera
62 2travel2know2 : While I should acknowledge I'm bias towards CUR I can't be blind and not see why G3 preferred SDQ over CUR. I wasn't contradicting myself, I was just
63 GUYAIR707 : Happy thanksgiving to those in the US. American Eagle/Executive very big!! I am sure CAL will have to do some wrangling with the ownership in light of
64 A388 : Well, you completely lost me as you still contradict yourself but it's no problem. Time will tell if this hub in SDQ will happen or not. A388
65 andrefranca : Without going thru immigration! 2 USD each! Well I know G3 flights bound to CUR and AUA are always full, but still, I think they won't bring their 76
66 Post contains images A388 : Two of my latest aircraft photos have made it to the front page of airliners.net. See them in below links: Hope you like them. A388
67 Post contains links baje427 : Nice pics A388 A LI pilot has been charged for drug possession in BGI http://www.nationnews.com/index.php/...cles/view/pilot-charged-for-drugs/
68 Post contains links and images A388 : I thaught you guys might like these Insel Air Aruba photos I took as well: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation Photogr
69 baje427 : Question A388 what was Insel Air's rational of using the Fokker 50 they are not common in Caribbean ops I know they are probably very cheap to acquire
70 andrefranca : Very nice pics, dankje, I flew Insel and found their service good! Barbados is very very tough against drugs, back in 2009 I was arriving from Jamaic
71 Post contains links 2travel2know2 : TA flew all Y B737-300 non-stop between SAL and LAX/SFO, here are the distances compared to PBM-MIA (from www.gcmap.com) SAL (13°26'27"N 89°03'21"W
72 A388 : Yes, I think they were cheaper. The Fokker 50 is a very robust aircraft that can handle a lot, better than the lighter ATR42. Maintenance cost wise I
73 guyanam : This should be grounds for Nicholas to be fired if he seriously entertains Eagle/SJU. He knows nothing about Caribbean aviation and yet micro menages
74 andrefranca : but you're aware PY flies from PBM to MIA via AUA?
75 2travel2know2 : Yes I'm and I'm aware too that all PBM MIA bound passengers have to disembark @ AUA to go thru U.S. Port-of-entry procedures, give back its baggage t
76 yellowtail : Maybe on the individual flights....but no way they have made their startup costs back yet. those TA flights esp to SFO used to make very frequent fue
77 captaink : That´s it I need to come back and represent Grenada.. Been terribly busy last few months. So nice to see GND getting so much action... CAL is doing
78 A388 : Nice hearing from you again captaink. I have sent you several emails but all came back because the email addresses I have of you don't exist anymore.
79 Post contains links caribbean484 : Wow man, welcome back Captain, how its been man don't see you online anymore lol. Yep lots happening in the Caribbean for the winter GND is getting a
80 yellowtail : And they are claiming break-even? One problem with the article....the author thinks (IMHO) that Redjet, LIAT and BW can exist in the Caribbean. That
81 andrefranca : Poor Redjet, meanwhile LIAT and its skyrocketing fares are still around....
82 beeweel15 : What I see from this is the hardship entrepreneurs have in doing business in the Caribbean. If they did not have all those delays and followed their
83 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : I came across an interesting article today and thought I'd share. It refers to BW's claim of a TTD$200 million profit. CAL gets $40m a month from gove
84 Post contains links BWIA 772 : Additionally I came across this article as well Cabinet turns down CAL’s request for 2 more B737s By August this year, Caribbean Airlines (CAL) had
85 GUYAIR707 : I assume as a government owned company the accounts of CAL should be audited and published each year. GUYAIR707
86 BW424 : Nicholas goes opening his poisnous trap once again. This guy has no professionlism and probably got his bachelors degree from a diploma mill for rich
87 GUYAIR707 : Assuming that CAL is looking at Executive Airlines, I guess they will be contracted to AA as American Eagle. If the loads are as low as in the 50's% t
88 BW424 : Don't waste your time trying to understand this because it is totally false. The abysmal credibility of the reporter who wrote that nonsense has been
89 A388 : Thanks BW424, the Insel Air Aruba MD80 for now is only painted in their livery but it is still doing flight for Insel Air itself. Insel Air indeed is
90 baje427 : Although I see your point the MD80 is a very cheap aircraft to acquire about 1 million dollars even though they are gas guzzlers if you can fill them
91 yellowtail : Why you want them to consider a model that would deviate from one that is working well? An Airline the size of Insel does not have the bank leverage
92 A388 : I see what you mean, however, we all know AA and DL will dispose of these Mad Dogs in the nearer future. The MD80 does seem to work for Allegiant. It
93 Post contains links and images caribbean484 : Since we don't talk much about TX, here is some info on their performance last year. Fact Sheet on TX: CEO in June 2009 by: Marc Rochet First regional
94 A388 : Thanks Caribbean484!!! For a government owned company they seem to be doing very well and by the looks of it, no Caribbean-based airline comes even cl
95 Post contains images A388 : My latest aircraft photos taken in Curacao can be seen in below links: A388
96 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : Surprise surprise... REDjet threatens to pull headquarters from Barbados ST JOHN’S, Antigua – Low cost carrier REDjet is exploring options for a n
97 caribbean484 : lol the arrogance of these people austound me, where will they go? POS will not let them in, KIN I doubt very much also, ANU will protect LIAT and al
98 A388 : This may not be what they want but they could move to an island that has nothing or little to do with the former british colonies (such as Martinique
99 andrefranca : IMHO, Guyana, Grenada and St Lucia would be more than happy to host RD or I'm wrong? The guyanese wants to revenge the mistreatment they receive from
100 GUYAIR707 : LOL I am sure Guyana would love to have them, but I am not sure it would make sense, from a logistics point of view, a central HQ is more logical and
101 Post contains images 2travel2know2 : RedJet as the new airline of Guyana? But as RedJet seems to be Digcel airline venture, need to ask, how big is Digicel in Guyana?. IMHO, If RedJet/Di
102 baje427 : Well even if they go to another destination the routes they want to fly they wont get the permission toD wants to fly BGI-SLU,BGI-GND,BGI-ANU,BGI-SXM
103 GUYAIR707 : Digicel is big in Guyana by Guyana's standards, but remember Guyana has just about 750,000 population, so while they control a reasonable % of the ce
104 LimaFoxTango : The only logical place to put an airline is KIN/MBJ, ANU or POS. Due to the geographical locations of these ports, plus local regulations, makes it s
105 2travel2know2 : Is Digicel lobby on Jamaica stronger than pro-Caribbean Airlines JM people? Problem is how does RedJet and JM could fit into KIN, if the government o
106 LimaFoxTango : What we must realize is Air Jamaica does not exist. There's nothing for the government of Jamaica to protect. BW is simply maintaining the "brand" of
107 guyanam : No surprises here. Of course they will never admit that their business model was wrong. How is the Bds govt sabotaging? Because they refuse to let an
108 GUYAIR707 : Maybe they want to protect their 16%. GUYAIR707
109 2travel2know2 : MD80, cheap airliners to get, too big for whatever inter-island route network RedJet wanted to fly. However, good if what they really wanted is to fl
110 Post contains links wadadli : Redjet flights to ANU ST JOHN’S, Antigua – Government ministers were noticeably absent when low-cost carrier REDjet’s inaugural flight landed at
111 baje427 : How do you guys think AA filing for chapter 11 will affect Caribbean routes.
112 A388 : I think that the effects will not be that big as their domestic network in the U.S. will feel the reduction in the number of aircraft the most. A388
113 2travel2know2 : With a very few exceptions, AA international routes do make money. It's believed that AA went Chapter 11 mainly because their domestic network.
114 Post contains links beeweel15 : With AA in Chapter 11 http://www.travelweekly.com/Travel-N...merican-s-parent-files-Chapter-11/ who will take the bait USAir or Jetblue although Fron
115 Post contains images andrefranca : B6 will take over the Caribbean lol well, Keep it up RD!
116 turk223 : Glad to read that someone makes this clear; Air Jamaica does not truly exist any longer. I know this is a sore subject, but I still feel it is silly
117 trintocan : Well many of us felt so in the first instance when the merger of the two airlines was being discussed, that a single brand would have been more effec
118 Caymanair : I continue to say that BW would have been better off allowing JM to collapse (as it would have) and then developing their existing business to fill th
119 beeweel15 : While I agree with you 100% BW was riding a double edge sword on one hand if JM was allowed to fold criticism would have said oh as a fellow West Ind
120 Post contains images andrefranca : More pics from St. Vincent!
121 Post contains links and images caribbean484 : I'm not sure what to make of it nor do I want to turn a mole hill into a problem but this speaks volumes. 9Y-TJR and TJS will be in POS today to help
122 A388 : Caribbean Airlines does those C-Checks themselves, is that correct? Do they do all checks in-house? A388
123 caribbean484 : Yep they are qualified to do in-house A, B and C checks on the 737NG, Dash8 and soon ATR's. I believe that they can still do MD80's and L1011s.
124 2travel2know2 : Why worry?, it's not that the colours of the circle w/ the "t" only had Red, White, Black; and it's only one "t" not 2.
125 guyanam : Isnt this what they did? Jamaicans regard the routes as CAL with AJ just used as a facade. AJ no longer exists. B6 is building market share as a resu
126 trintocan : That's not new, over the last few years BW, both old and new, leased planes both to and from HV as seasons dictated. Now the winter season is a busy
127 A388 : That's good. I remember that ALM also did all checks in CUR on their MD80's. Anyways, as I keep saying, I hope to see Caribbean Airlines touch down i
128 LIA310 : REDjet just received permission to fly BGI-UVF. Flights start 16 December and they go on sale at 1:00 p.m local time today.
129 GUYAIR707 : Apparently BW62 made an emergency landing in MBJ yesterday according to Stabroek News. GUYAIR707
130 Post contains images andrefranca : But how are the PY and LI loads? cause I know they don't fly CUR - POS daily, so there would be market for BW? Insel also droped the route... I could
131 A388 : The routes are doing fine to my knowledge. A388
132 guyanam : Will they fill an MD83 to UVF?
133 trintocan : Isn't LI daily between POS and CUR? I know that PY isn't. Best of luck to them with this new venture. Trintocan.
134 baje427 : At the right prices they can but if it will be profitable to them I don't know, I think RD was counting on having their operations out of KIN where t
135 LimaFoxTango : LI operates that route thrice weekly, four during peak periods.
136 Post contains links 2travel2know2 : Sort of related to PTY-Caribbean aviation, Panama's president meets Jamaica and Barbados prime ministers From www.prensa.com - in Spanish. Panamanian
137 baje427 : Does anyone know why Piarco has changed frequency from 123.7 to 133.1? How long is the POS-CUR in the Dash 8 is this flight usually weight restricted
138 Post contains links baje427 : According to this article http://www.nationnews.com/index.php/...iew/redjet-off-to-st.-lucia/#15215 CAL is having difficulty in gaining permission to
139 LimaFoxTango : Not sure why the change, but they still use 123.7 every now and then. Flying time POS to CUR is about 2:00 to 2:10 roughly, and very rarely restricte
140 baje427 : Thanks so would they still not have permission to fly this route?
141 trintocan : Yes, Caribbean Airlines as well as old BW flew between GEO and BGI on several occasions. I recall BW started flying between them directly around 2000
142 2travel2know2 : Isn't LI more interested in keeping the BGI-SLU market to itself and really doesn't care that much for BGI-UVF since UVF is kind of the less convenie
143 baje427 : old BW flew BGI-SLU as well did CAL loose these routes when they transitioned? if so would they have also had to reapply for POS-BGI ?
144 LIA310 : 133.100 and 126.500 are two new frequencies that Piarco Centre has started using recently. 125.400 and 123.700 are still being used occasionally as w
145 turk223 : I will permit myself to whine just one more time about there being no CM flight PTY-BGI. There have been news stories over the last two years teasing
146 2travel2know2 : Today on Panamanian TV, TVN had footage of Panama's president and foreign minister talking to Jamaica's prime minister and the newscaster said that t
147 LimaFoxTango : Could always go to POS and take Copa.
148 andrefranca : I wish the GOVBGI could give first their immigration officers a costumer care training as they are notorious to be Gross and unprepared, as I could se
149 Post contains links BWIA 772 : Seems that LI has fired the controversial head of the Pilot Union. I wonder what this now means for the airline management and its contentious relatio
150 trintocan : Quite true, the first part as BGI - SLU is one of its biggest routes overall. LI has not served UVF for many years. Back in the 1970s and 1980s it op
151 windian425 : REDjet received another MD80 (83) last night N562AA. Will be used to supplement the two MD82 currently in the fleet. Let the games continue as more ro
152 Post contains links baje427 : Seems Li pilots are on sick out http://www.nationnews.com/articles/view/sick-out-at-liat/ Given there routes is a third MD82 really necessary? all the
153 A388 : I am wondering the same and as has been said before already, I really don't see how REDJet chose the MD80 to do island hopping flights. I mean, reall
154 Post contains links caribbean484 : This is getting interesting every time, I wonder if he will have a case to fight. LI needs to get its act in order with the unions. RD reminds me of
155 A388 : I'm not sure if the salty environment really is a problem for the MD80 as BW also used the MD80 and Insel Air is using the MD80 out of CUR which is a
156 baje427 : Perhaps when BGI gets CAT 1 the utilisation of the MD80's would be more justified but BGI-GEO and BGI-KIN are good stage lengths for MD80 ops I think.
157 A388 : Yes, I agree with you but island hopping between the leeward islands with an MD80 is not the best way to do it. A388
158 guyanam : Statements like this show that you do not want redjet to compte in a free market. This is what redjet will tell you. Redjet needs to get a grip. Flaw
159 trintocan : They may well do but then recent history has been littered with examples of prop-flying airlines trying to link the islands in competition with LI. C
160 A388 : If that is the case, they really don't know what they are doing. A388
161 caribbean484 : They have no idea, a few weeks ago the Transport minister said it out that they never thought that RD was going to do very short flights in the small
162 baje427 : Have anymore of CAL ATR's arrived?
163 GUYAIR707 : Yep, it's been that way for a while. GUYAIR707
164 andrefranca : yeah I was shocked, they sent back dozens of guyanese and jamaicans and they even didn't ask what they were going to do there or at least they should
165 baje427 : Sorry to hear of your bad experience but customs in BGI are also rude to locals as well the problem with the Jamaican sad to say is a result of sever
166 guyanam : Here is the problem. Many US tourists to the Caribbean are African Americans (including those of Caribbean parentage). They dont take kindly to being
167 baje427 : I agree with you.
168 andrefranca : here's my story: I'm white, half portuguese half spanish brazilian, back in 2009 I was traveling around the caribbean, had a great great time, I love
169 2travel2know2 : Well I hope Bajan immigration/customs authorities will kind of behave with the incoming passengers the day CM decides to open that route. The moment o
170 guyanam : Oh well Bdos lost your Brazilian money. You got trapped in that superior tone that some less educated bajans adopt for the "inferiors" from Jamaica a
171 Post contains images andrefranca : But there's where my complaint is: you must learn how to deal with people's reaction, if one is going to do something wrong, one will be nervous and
172 turk223 : As a Barbadian, it saddens me to read these postings. But, they don't surprise me. The only negative experience I have had is when I have been told I
173 Post contains links BW424 : "CARIBBEAN AIRLINES AND AIR JAMAICA OFFERING MORE TRAVEL OPTIONS TO FLORIDA WITH THE RESUMPTION OF SERVICE TO MIAMI FROM 09 DECEMBER 2011" 09 December
174 2travel2know2 : Lets see if Caribbean Airlines (Air Jamaica) wishes to start TPA some day too. Because PBI, RSW and JAX, might be very iffy, even if to go after MBJ
175 baje427 : I wish CAL the best but this could not have come at a worse the heavy Christmas season stranding passengers returning at this time will be a PR proble
176 Post contains links BW424 : We'll see, but I believe that three Florida gateways are sufficient for now. Very true. It stinks of premeditated sabotage. However, the JALPA have b
177 Post contains links BW424 : DAE is entering the fray with their newly added MD-83! Seems CUR is experiencing quite a bit of growth. A388, any idea as to what routes this aircraft
178 Post contains links BW424 : "LIAT Pilots Unhappy With Cabin Crew" By OBSERVER News - Saturday, December 10th, 2011. "ST JOHN’S, Antigua – The Leeward Islands Airline Pilots A
179 andrefranca : Children.... They already earn much more than the ground staff who work always under stress and still need to deal with clueless pax, over-bookings,
180 A388 : So far, the aircraft will be placed on the SDQ route with daily flights. I don´t know which other routes will follow but it wouldn´t surprise me if
181 andrefranca : rumors that DAE will give the ATRS back to lessor, they're in bad shape? I don't mean to offend anyone here, but Insel air kicks DAE ass!
182 LimaFoxTango : While there might be some truth to this article, I have not seen nor heard any directive from LIALPA in that jumpseat issue.
183 BW424 : Interesting....well, wish them all the best. lol Appreciate the info. However, why does it seem as if LIALPA is seemingly threatening a union to side
184 caribbean484 : They have already given them back, planespotters said in May this year they were returned. Insel seems to me to be better managed and have really mad
185 guyanam : POS is as much on the drug trade out of venezuela, etc as is Guyana. Try something else...like disdain for Caribbean people who are perceived to be p
186 andrefranca : No probs, I loved trinidad though! I even made friends there! I'll be back in the future! TRUE, when I cleared the immigration in POS, I remeber sein
187 windian425 : CAL will commence new nonstop service between BGI and GEO effective Friday 16th December, 2011. Flights will operate Mon, Wed, Friday with B738's. We
188 AA1818 : So new routes from CAL in 2011... POS-KIN non-stop KIN-MIA POS-MCO..now POS-KIN-MCO BGI-GEO GEO-JFK (haven't heard much on this lately) GND-YYZ (when
189 Post contains links BW424 : Press releases can be found here http://www.caribbean-airlines.com/index.php/contact-us/newspr/2011 My question is, why did they drop it in the first
190 Post contains links caribbean484 : De-convolution of the milk run has seen a significant number efficiency for the airline and increase pax connections to NA. Started last Friday. Thos
191 Post contains links BW424 : "Self check-in now at Piarco ...but only CAL passengers able to benefit" "The Airports Authority of Trinidad and Tobago (AATT) has launched its self-c
192 GUYAIR707 : Yep that hits the nail on the head. GUYAIR707[Edited 2011-12-12 21:48:23]
193 GUYAIR707 : According to caribbean-airlines.com the route is JFK-GEO-JFK. BW 503/504 operated by NA 763. According to the schedule they just have 12 flights, 3 r
194 2travel2know2 : So even with the current runway length, a B767 can make it non-stop from GEO to NYC.
195 GUYAIR707 : Yep, done by Universal Airlines, North American Airlines, and now by Delta Airlines all the time. EZJet will be using a 762 from next week, 6X per we
196 2travel2know2 : Still that runwway length is not enough for GEO-LON non-stop w/B767?
197 GUYAIR707 : Not based on Boeing's charts. You would probably have to limit the load. GUYAIR707[Edited 2011-12-12 23:24:16]
198 Post contains links AA1818 : From this express article... http://www.trinidadexpress.com/busin...to_fly_subsidy-free-135485138.html Interesting. AA1818
199 A388 : Yes, the ATR's have been returned but according to local newspapers they will receive a few ATR´s again next year. I´m not sure to what extend Inse
200 baje427 : Is there so much demand between BGI-GEO to warrant 3 carriers I think LI will be forced off this route. CAL operating BGI-SLU,SVD is Bwee Express all
201 andrefranca : But they receive too much feed from other islands to just "drop" it, don't you think?
202 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : LI does, but what's to stop a passenger from taking LI to BGI then RD or BW ex BGI to GEO just to save a dollar? Not totally impossible. More likely
203 yellowtail : Speaking of LI..how does SJU perform for them. I was in SJU last week and I saw 2 pax get on the plane.....
204 GUYAIR707 : I guess not only the fares but the added bonus of speed and comfort will keep pax from LI. Also LI used to very unreliable, late or cancelled, BGI-GE
205 Post contains links and images BWIA 772 : So the ad battles have begun check out the following full page ad by RD. Hopefully the lower fares provides a nice boost for intra regional travel whe
206 andrefranca : CAL is responding these ads with the "we've got more services included in price".... I wonder if costumers really care about it nowdays (except the b
207 Post contains links caribbean484 : It cannot be sustained, but I like the ads they are drawing out. That depends on how we look at it, considering CAL's load factor is still up with th
208 baje427 : With RD and CAL expansion into LI territory will this be another EC express Caribbean Star saga with LI remaining or do you guys think given the curre
209 andrefranca : Well we all know LI 's devils, but they in fact got many routes and they're vital to some Caribbean nationals to get from point A to B with more opti
210 jmbweeboy : You bet they care. "Lack of inclusion" of basic services most complained about at least in the United States. The "you only pay for what you need" ar
211 windian425 : Thomson Airways (TUI) B767-300ER arrived from ARN to BGI today with a full load of pax (288). Next season they are planning a bi-weekly service to HEL
212 baje427 : For the routes in the Caribbean what service do you really need the longest trip is probably 2hr :30 minutes most AA flights are longer and nothing is
213 Post contains images GUYAIR707 : Flew Virgin America JFK-SFO-JFK and got a taste of the cool lighting. A319 is a tiny a/c, but comfort was not bad. Virgin America won the #1 airline i
214 caribbean484 : Congrats to the BTA for this successful flight and hopefully sustainable, maybe they should negotiate with WK for seasonal services from ZRH. Yep too
215 baje427 : That's a good load I think more can be done in these European markets for winter charters however. YYZ-BGI will be 767 on AC from tomorrow will WS be
216 airjamaica : Speaking of YYZ, I notice that AC will start YYZ-CUR with the A319 come December 31st. Anyone have any idea what will the frequency be like and will i
217 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : GEO was sold out today, guess there is a need for those Jetbridges after all (LOL). http://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2011/12/17/airport-rush/ GUYAIR7
218 airfrancejfk : Saw a similar scene back in 2008. Ramp was filled to capacity with North American 757, Constellation 757, TravelSpan 737-800, and 2 Caribbean Airline
219 beeweel15 : Jetbridges wont solve that problem a bigger terminal will including waiting areas in front of each aircraft
220 guyanam : I would not have wanted to have to go thru customs and immigration. That must have been over 700 people! Imagine how lomng folks would have had to wa
221 GUYAIR707 : True, with two short luggage belts imagine what a mess it was. The head of EZJet says their first flight was full - 216 out of a possible 218 pax. I
222 caribbean484 : Back in MIA, was nice to spend a week in Sao Paulo really lively place. So what happens this week when there will be a BW/NAA 767, BW 737 DL 757 and R
223 GUYAIR707 : The NAA 763 arrives at 3:30pm not with the morning rush, but I won't like to be traveling the day that happens. GUYAIR707[Edited 2011-12-17 13:20:52]
224 A388 : Hello airjamaica, this flight will be weekly and for six months if I´m not mistaken. Besides AC we also have the weekly flight from Jazz Air/Thomas
225 Post contains images andrefranca : @ A388, And is Inselair finally flying to MAO anytime soon?, cause in the past they even signed an agreement with TAF airlines from FOR, but the fligh
226 Post contains images yellowtail : Seriously, you should be able to clear 1000 an hour with 6 immigration and 6 customs officers.
227 baje427 : Is EZ Jet a charter or scheduled service into GEO? Also curious AA and JB flights to BGI from JFK arrive and depart at around the same times was this
228 2travel2know2 : If airlines or the airport know that awful situation happens, how come nobody tries to delay or make earlier the GEO arrival/departure times just tho
229 beeweel15 : Maybe elsewhere but not in GEO.
230 BW424 : Seems that GEO should be poised for some much needed expansion. I'm happy to hear of EZjet's immediate success load factor wise. As for my MIA-KIN-PO
231 GUYAIR707 : EZJet is scheduled to arrive at 5am, DL at 6:45am, and BW has 661 at 7:30am and 425 at 8:30am, the situation published as caused by the delay of EZJe
232 caribbean484 : Nice man hope to see a trip report or some pics of it. Dang nice upgrade, Christmas travel this year is really high a spotter's paradise in POS. I ag
233 Post contains images A388 : Not that I know of but as soon as it will happen, I will let you know unless you get to know it before I do A388
234 GUYAIR707 : I mean technically it can, a 747 landed once for Universal Airlines, but in all practicality as a regular service I don't think so. GUYAIR707[Edited
235 Post contains links BW424 : New forum up... A Spotter's Paradise- Caribbean Aviation Thread 93 (by BW424 Dec 18 2011 in Civil Aviation)
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