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TK To Start 6 New Destinations In 2012  
User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 16185 times:

In addition to EZE, Mogadishu, Misrata announced earlier, TK has announced that, depending on A/C availability, it will start fliyng to Bilbao-La Coruna, Novosibirsk-UlanBaatar, and Abuja-Kano.

Source (in Turkish): http://www.kap.gov.tr/yay/Sorgu/Sorg...ak=slink&sirketID=1107&paketTipi=2

More odd destinations from TK, but way to go! Almost 200 destinations with these.

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User currently offlinexiaotung From New Zealand, joined Jan 2006, 824 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 16089 times:

What happened to SYD?

User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 16021 times:

Quoting xiaotung (Reply 1):
What happened to SYD?

I doubt we will see SYD (or any long haul destination other than the EZE tag-on) next year. Of course surprises do happen a lot with TK.


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2949 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 15988 times:

Quoting xiaotung (Reply 1):
What happened to SYD?

I know! Hanging out to see them down here...


User currently offlineju068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 15990 times:

Are they going to use a B737-900 to Novosibirsk-Ulanbaatar?

User currently offlineSASMD82 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 726 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 15856 times:

I am curious to the load factors to destinations such as Ulan Batoor and Mogadishu. Why Mogadishu??? Can they guaruentee the safety of the crew? Who would choose to fly to Mogadishu? It is neither a leisure nor a business destination.

Quoting ju068 (Reply 4):
Are they going to use a B737-900 to Novosibirsk-Ulanbaatar?

Very likely, or the 737-800.


User currently offlineSN-MD11 From Luxembourg, joined Dec 1999, 116 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 15826 times:

I have heard they were due to start FIH (Kinshasa DRC) as from April 2012.

Would it have been a tag-on service..?

Thx for any precisions.


User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 15781 times:

Still no Urumqi why?

User currently offlineEBGflyer From Denmark, joined Sep 2006, 999 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 15686 times:

I was under the impression that TK was starting up Manila (MNL) soonish. This has been mentioned several times during this year, but maybe they are lacking aircraft.


Future flights: CPH-BRU-CPHx2; CPH-BKK-MNL; MNL-GUM-HNL-LAX
User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 15644 times:

Quoting xiaotung (Reply 1):
What happened to SYD?

TK does not seem to be doing very well on its widebody fleet's economics - so SYD might be a case for 2013.



The opinions above are solely my own and do not express those of my employers or clients.
User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 15356 times:

Everything other than those reported to the stock markets in the above link is just part of TK wishlist or rumor. many African destinations, as well as LIM, MEX, CCS, MNL, SYD, MEL, HAN have all been mentioned, but nothing to talk about yet other than rumors. Even these may not all become reality, like ATL that never materialized.

And a minor correction to the source: http://www.kap.gov.tr/yay/Sirket/Sirket.aspx?sirketId=1107&btnAra=Git Hope this one works. Sorry nothing in English yet.


User currently offlinegabrielchew From United Kingdom, joined exactly 9 years ago today! , 3203 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 15266 times:

Some interesting destinations there. Other than a few Chinese and Russian airlines, they'll be the only foreign carrier in ULN? Might be a good market. Good luck!


http://my.flightmemory.com/shefgab Upcoming flights: LHR-GVA-LHR-TXL-LHR-VE-PRN,SPU-OSL-LHR, LGW-DXB-BKK-DXB-LHR
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 15123 times:

Korean Air also serve ULN and JAL have operated charters there in the past.

User currently offlineairevents From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 873 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 14856 times:

ULN will definitely be a good market for them. Big boom going on in Mongolia at the moment!


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User currently offlinetaichen From Spain, joined Jul 2001, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 14633 times:

Well, I am happy that Turkish airlines has plans for Northern Spain, but LCG is just plain ... odd. I won't enter the usual flame about VGO/SCQ/LCG (a.netters might not be familiar with the issue, but is a long-time favourite in Spanish aviation forums) but this choice of airport is really, really intriguing.

User currently offlinetcm From Turkey, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14377 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 10):
Everything other than those reported to the stock markets in the above link is just part of TK wishlist or rumor. many African destinations, as well as LIM, MEX, CCS, MNL, SYD, MEL, HAN have all been mentioned, but nothing to talk about yet other than rumors. Even these may not all become reality, like ATL that never materialized.

MNL is more than rumor. The TK office in MNL is up and running and MNL was announced on TK's web page as well as by their CEO.


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17367 posts, RR: 46
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 14201 times:

Quoting 777way (Reply 7):

Still no Urumqi why?


I definitely would have thought URQ would have preceded ULN because of the distance-can be a 737-and Turkic ties. ULN is in the midst of a huge boom but it's too far for a 737.

Quoting xiaotung (Reply 1):
What happened to SYD?

TK would be another one stop in an already brutally competitive market--I don't think TK has a chance in SYD unless it's nonstop, and that's not happening.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlinetcm From Turkey, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 14131 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 16):
I definitely would have thought URQ would have preceded ULN because of the distance-can be a 737-and Turkic ties. ULN is in the midst of a huge boom but it's too far for a 737.

They could start it with the new 739ERs. A recent article by CAPA mentions that TK might consider expending to Central Asia and India by starting with the 739ERs.

Link: http://www.centreforaviation.com/ana...-to-africa-and-perhaps-india-62632

[Edited 2011-11-19 06:48:26]

User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2949 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 14113 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 16):
I don't think TK has a chance in SYD unless it's nonstop, and that's not happening.

It wouldn't be hard for TK to bring in a few 77L's to open up routes to Australia/more USA services. I tend to agree with your assessment though, perhaps once they get some A350s or 787s whenever that is...


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17367 posts, RR: 46
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 13173 times:

Quoting tcm (Reply 17):
They could start it with the new 739ERs. A recent article by CAPA mentions that TK might consider expending to Central Asia and India by starting with the 739ERs

Central Asia east to URC is perfect for the TK739, ULN, however, is about 1000 miles too far unless there's some new huge range boost I'm not aware of.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently offlinetcm From Turkey, joined Jul 2010, 584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 13039 times:

AFAIK, IST-ULN is 3218 nautical miles. The published range of the B739ER is 3265. However I am no expert on the subject  

User currently offlinechootie From Germany, joined May 2007, 286 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 12985 times:

LCG-BIO is very much a surprise, however, any new destinations from LCG are GREATLY appreciated!!       Now we just need LH/SN/SK or OS to get on the band wagon, and finally put some competition on the OneWorld BA/IB quasi monopoly!!   


chootie
User currently offlineklwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2018 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 12266 times:

Who on earth will be traveling to Mogadishu... I mean honestly.. That is a strange one. One of the only populated places in the world where no one actually goes. A place where anarchy rules.

User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19199 posts, RR: 52
Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 12213 times:

Quoting klwright69 (Reply 22):

Who on earth will be traveling to Mogadishu... I mean honestly.. That is a strange one. One of the only populated places in the world where no one actually goes. A place where anarchy rules.

There are a large number of Somalis abroad, such as in the UK. It is surely this VFR market that they seek. I like TK's style: get established in some unusual places before other operators enter the market. And besides: TK would undoubtedly have performed all required analysis before reaching the decision to operate this route.



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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24893 posts, RR: 46
Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 11971 times:

A couple points -

TK cannot serve URC as its not allowed in the China bilateral which was renewed only last year. Designated service points are PEK, PVG and CAN.

For Mogadishu, Turkey has had growing government and business including various infrastructure programs such as building a highway, hospitals, schools, and water treatment facilities. There also have been public aid campaign in Turkey for Somalia that collect over $200 million in donations earlier this year. Simply put Somalia is a nation and market that has been designated by the Turkish government for cooperation and investment in. THY has already operated several charters to Mogadishu including an A340 in October. Also keep in mind there is sizable Somali diaspora in Europe particularly in UK and Scandinavia for which TK would be a great routing option.



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25 rafvc10 : Is not a surprise that BIO will be next Spanish destination for TK... but LCG? I would understand SCQ (near to LCG) as bigger airport but... this anno
26 fly2yyz : I'm not exactly sure but my guess would be that URQ hasnt happened due to Chinese restrictions. Even though there are Turkic ties in Xinjiang....its
27 leftyboarder : I am desperately waiting for TK to begin GLA, EDI, NCL, in my opinion those have been relinquished to the MEB3 airlines for too long. UK (excl. London
28 Pe@rson : To be accurate, TK does also serve BHX and MAN.
29 Turkish350XWB : Yes, MAN 7w (was 10w) and BHX 5w...
30 leftyboarder : True, it just is way behind EK outside on LON (even there EK operates, what, 8 dailies?) and that is what I meant. Could support more than 5 weekly t
31 2travel2know2 : Those and maybe CWL/BRS and LBA may work well if TK is to add least 3 big cities in Western India (have AMD, JAI, ATQ, PNQ to choose from) and offer
32 Ldriver : How safe is that airport?
33 alsberg : I think they could do great with this because of Mongolia's growing mining market
34 LAXintl : Well there is regular international and domestic scheduled service there already for a few years and in 2010 a UAE firm took over the management and o
35 Post contains images ETinCaribe : Oh NO!!! No MIA I was expecting them here next year. I will be flying them next month to ADD, looking forward to it. There is a big political push by
36 icelandair75w : So I guess that puts the BOS rumor to rest....
37 qf002 : 5. In any case, EK is 20 years ahead of TK. I'd be willing to wager that EK's strength in the UK is partly the result of its strength out of Australi
38 abrelosojos : = EK *may* be 20 years ahead, but TK is an airline that will have a better future than EK - a vast global network, a home market people want to actua
39 qf002 : I tend to agree, but we will have to see. TK is not quite as optimally placed as EK is -- IST is a big detour for Asia-Africa traffic, IST is getting
40 LAXintl : TK has a huge advantage that EK does not with geography. Its sits at the door step of Europe and can offer multiple daily flights to lots of markets.
41 abrelosojos : = Let's wait and see. Fair enough on some points - BUT: + I think TK is at a disadvantage on India-Africa traffic (where EK will have more tough comp
42 qf002 : EK could run multiple daily smaller aircraft on most routes (see QR) but chose to maintain a fleet that consists only of widebody aircraft. Doesn't s
43 rafvc10 : "Safe" word in Somalia does not exist... I have flown many times in the past years to there for work and I must to say that safety not exists in this
44 777way : Relevance to the discussion? and suddenly Turkey is all loveable and democratic even though an Islamic party runs it, because its pitched against Ara
45 Pe@rson : No, 8: 5 to LHR and 3 to LGW.
46 Turkish350XWB : This can have a big impact on the speed of realization of projects and therefore can be of relevance. Look at china as an example, how fast airports
47 abrelosojos : = I think what LAXintl is trying to say is that multiple frequencies allow better connectivity, and is better for the local market. = For HKG, IST an
48 Post contains images MaverickM11 : And the huge ready made local market in IST/Turkey that doesn't have to be bribed to stop there. Plus, EK's top flows will always be the next lowest
49 tcm : TK might offer better future potential than EK, however, EK is run more professionally. There are serious organizational problems inside TK. The pictu
50 RCS763AV : BOG has been mentioned a couple of times and Colombia and Turkey have just waived visa requirements for their citizens. An FTA is about to be implemen
51 2travel2know2 : Specially if AV/TA do a good job with TK promoting AV BOG hub. However, taking-off from BOG to IST non-stop may encounter altitude issues.
52 MaverickM11 : From the airline poitn of view, everyone should follow the Dubai government's lead of fostering aviation, infrastructure, and tourism. If the UK and/
53 tcm : I am talking specifically about TK not airlines in general. I am saying that TK should be run like EK or SQ. Both have majority public ownership (Dub
54 migair54 : No news of DAR and NBO to get dedicate flights.... they will keep sharing the flight apparently... If they are so short of Long haul planes why they k
55 TK787 : Maybe. I have done the IST-NBO and back on a TK 738 couple years ago. Soon things will be different at TK with the arrival of 15 737-900ERs.
56 2travel2know2 : Isn't A Corunha (or that whole region in Asturias Spain) a Christian pilgrimage hotspot? I just can't think so many people want to have a quick link
57 migair54 : A Coruña is in Galicia not in Asturias... and the hotspot is in Santiago de Compostela.... very close to A Coruña.
58 wingedtaurus : We need them in MEX! Of all the region's airlines TK is the most feasible. A.
59 Steelyman : What looks unprofessional in TK? Didn't they make profit last year? Didn't they expand like no one else? I really don't see the unprofessionality
60 Turkish350XWB : Quite simplified definition for professionality...
61 Steelyman : With the actual economic situation, there is no wind which brings you passengers, you have to really fight to be in a good situation, if results are
62 MEA : i've notcied increased advertising in australia for tk so you never never know...
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