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SAS Follows Up Gay Success  
User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3846 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 12585 times:

SAS follows up gay success


" SAS is committed to its LGBT (Gay, Bi and Transsexuals)-campaign "Love is in the air," which was one of last year's biggest social media successes, with an improved HBT side and a new SAS Crew Guide specifically for the gays market. Crew Guiden hadde Hollywoodpremiere forrige uke. Crew Guide had Hollywood premiere last week. Det siste året har SAS dessuten vunnet flere internasjonale priser for sin satsning på HBT. In the past year, SAS has also won several international awards for its commitment to HBT. "

Last year SAS had the woirlds first gay and lesbian weddings in the air ...


Check out the cool inflight wedding rap by one of the flightattendants last year:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtCjJVf9akA&feature=player_embedded


Read more here:

http://translate.google.com/translat...boarding.no%2Fart.asp%3Fid%3D48002


Not gay myself, but I think it's a cool idea from SAS and happy that it is such a success

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User currently offlinekl911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5120 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 12518 times:

Quoting Mortyman (Thread starter):
Not gay myself, but I think it's a cool idea from SAS and happy that it is such a success

I think its weird and as a passenger I would definately dont want that wedding on my flight. but thats just my personal opinion.



Next trip : DUB-AUH-CGK-DPS-KUL-AUH-CDG-ORK :-)
User currently offlineAirPacific747 From Denmark, joined May 2008, 2376 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 12253 times:

I hope they rented the entire business class cabin. Otherwise it must have been annoying for some of their fellow passengers who might just wanted to take a nap and paid for a business class seat.

User currently offlineusdcaguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 954 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11971 times:

Quoting AirPacific747 (Reply 2):
I hope they rented the entire business class cabin. Otherwise it must have been annoying for some of their fellow passengers who might just wanted to take a nap and paid for a business class seat.

What the wedding shows is that SAS values gay business and is willing to go out on a political limb to show support for GLBT travelers. Whatever annoyance the activity might have caused on that particular day could not have been as bad as a screaming baby (or several) in the business cabin, which could ruin anybody's flight. Casual spectators often enjoy celebrations vicariously and those on the flight might have even been offered something to help toast the occasion, so it's difficult to see how this would have been unwelcome.


User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1414 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11755 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 1):
I think its weird and as a passenger I would definately dont want that wedding on my flight. but thats just my personal opinion.

Im sure we have all seen documentarys where some nerd proposes to his girlfriend in front of a cabin of passengers with the PA system in his hand and worse yet, the few where they actually do get married in the aisle.....Dont see how this is any different!



My views are my own and do not reflect any other person or organisation.
User currently offline1stfl94 From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 1455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 11543 times:

Quoting tonystan (Reply 4):
Im sure we have all seen documentarys where some nerd proposes to his girlfriend in front of a cabin of passengers with the PA system in his hand and worse yet, the few where they actually do get married in the aisle.....Dont see how this is any different!

At least there's less chance of someone saying no!


User currently offlineju068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9957 times:

What if someone is religious or is not feeling comfortable around this kind of behavior? SAS should not have gone against the beliefs of one group of people to please another one. There is a reason why airlines have not done so before...

User currently offlineFCAFLYBOY From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 587 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9677 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 9):
ju068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 1218 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted Sat Nov 19 2011 21:22:46 your local time (8 minutes 45 secs ago) and read 132 times:

What if someone is religious or is not feeling comfortable around this kind of behavior? SAS should not have gone against the beliefs of one group of people to please another one. There is a reason why airlines have not done so before...


Góða ferð og þægliges stund fyrir flugtak!

While I do agree that some people may have found this uncomfortable ( though quite why escapes me ) I believe you are confusing your facts. Being gay is not a 'belief' nor is it a choice per se.

What you are effectively implying is that anyone who is not gay is against it, as you suggest SAS are upsetting 'straight' people to please homo's like myself.

I don't believe this to be true, I think they meant to make a gesture to the lucrative pink pound, and show that they are a modern airline with an accepting and welcoming attitude to the gay community.


If it makes a few quid extra for them too, then all the better and good luck to them.
As a gay Bloke, it wouldn't make me want to fly them anymore than any other airline.


User currently offlineYYZAMS From Canada, joined Feb 2011, 218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9632 times:

Quoting kl911 (Reply 1):
I think its weird and as a passenger I would definately dont want that wedding on my flight. but thats just my personal opinion.

Indeed your opnion, everyone has them. Some are better than others.

Quoting ju068 (Reply 9):
What if someone is religious or is not feeling comfortable around this kind of behavior?

This kind of behaviour? I am not sure how someone would be uncomfortable around people who love each other.

Quoting ju068 (Reply 9):
SAS should not have gone against the beliefs of one group of people to please another one. There is a reason why airlines have not done so before...

Again, beliefs? Equality is not a belief. Religions are beliefs.


User currently offlineju068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9577 times:

Quoting FCAFLYBOY (Reply 10):
What you are effectively implying is that anyone who is not gay is against it, as you suggest SAS are upsetting 'straight' people to please homo's like myself.

Yes but they did it already once, don't see the point in doing it again ...

Quoting FCAFLYBOY (Reply 10):
While I do agree that some people may have found this uncomfortable ( though quite why escapes me ) I believe you are confusing your facts. Being gay is not a 'belief' nor is it a choice per se.

Yes and the vast majority of European population does not feel comfortable being in that situation. When I mentioned belief I was referring to religious people whose faith does not approve of homosexuality.


User currently offlineUALWN From Andorra, joined Jun 2009, 2755 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9471 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 12):
Yes and the vast majority of European population does not feel comfortable being in that situation.

Are you sure about that? The "vast majority"? I don't think so.



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User currently offlineju068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9422 times:

Quoting UALWN (Reply 15):
Are you sure about that? The "vast majority"? I don't think so.

Then I recomend checking the numbers once again.


User currently offlineOEH68 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9426 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 12):

Yes and the vast majority of European population does not feel comfortable being in that situation. When I mentioned belief I was referring to religious people whose faith does not approve of homosexuality.

Excuse me, but this is 2011, not 1911.
I think the "vast majority" of European population have no problem with homosexuality.



OEH68
User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7832 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9380 times:

IDK I'd be annoyed having a gay OR straight wedding on my plane. It's an airline, fly people places! Just my opinion


Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
User currently offlineUALWN From Andorra, joined Jun 2009, 2755 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 9380 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 17):
Then I recomend checking the numbers once again.

Which numbers? Do you have any statistics about the number of European citizens who would be uncomfortable watching a same-sex marriage?



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User currently offlineju068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8901 times:

Quoting UALWN (Reply 17):
Which numbers? Do you have any statistics about the number of European citizens who would be uncomfortable watching a same-sex marriage?

You are welcome.

''Europeans show relatively high acceptance for gays and lesbians with a regional median response of 32%''

http://www.gallup-europe.be/newsletter/articles/1207_10.htm


User currently offlineYYZAMS From Canada, joined Feb 2011, 218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8758 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 19):

The low number you are giving is from East bloque countries that aren't very open minded and really shouldn't be part of the EU.


European is such a vast group of people. What is European? Northern? Southern? Eastern?


User currently offlineFCAFLYBOY From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2006, 587 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8759 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 12):
Yes and the vast majority of European population does not feel comfortable being in that situation. When I mentioned belief I was referring to religious people whose faith does not approve of homosexuality.

I don't know which Europeans are telling you this, but they're lying  

You did not mention religion at all. Was there a group of nuns and vicars on board?
Your views are outdated, your 'facts' shaky, but to each their own.


User currently offlineYYZAMS From Canada, joined Feb 2011, 218 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8721 times:

Quoting FCAFLYBOY (Reply 10):
As a gay Bloke, it wouldn't make me want to fly them anymore than any other airline.

I agree. I look for service and more bang for the buck.


User currently offlineju068 From Serbia, joined Aug 2009, 2579 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8600 times:

Quoting YYZAMS (Reply 20):
The low number you are giving is from East bloque countries that aren't very open minded and really shouldn't be part of the EU.

I am not a native speaker but I suppose you mean Eastern bloc...  
Quoting FCAFLYBOY (Reply 21):
I don't know which Europeans are telling you this, but they're lying

The % is there...


User currently offlinegeorgiaame From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 958 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8482 times:

Quoting FCAFLYBOY (Reply 21):
I look for service and more bang for the buck.

May I suggest that if you want to service the buck with a bang, pass on SAS, and book either the first class suites on the Singapore 380, or wait for Branson's upper class on the his 380s. My opinion of course, and as someone said, some opinions are worth more than others. Personally, the only way I would countenance a gay wedding up there is if I knew in advance that my (male) flight attendant would be dressed in lederhosen when he was serving me my champagne. If I have to put up with camp, let it be first class camp all around.



"Trust, but verify!" An old Russian proverb, quoted often by a modern American hero
User currently offlinepeergynt From United States of America, joined May 2009, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8357 times:

It's all about tolerance. Religious, sexual orientation, you name it.
In any case I would prefer not to have any kind of ceremony (whatever that is) on my flight. It's just annoying and embarrassing.


User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25009 posts, RR: 85
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8362 times:
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Quoting ju068 (Reply 9):
What if someone is religious or is not feeling comfortable around this kind of behavior? SAS should not have gone against the beliefs of one group of people to please another one. There is a reason why airlines have not done so before...

Then it is easy - if it offends you, or anyone, don't fly SAS.

There are probably people who would be uncomfortable on, or offended by, Air NZ's Pink Flights to the Sydney Mardi Gras, but again - don't like 'em, don't fly 'em:

http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/press...nk-flight-to-north-america-17sep07

"Attention passengers, Air New Zealand is now boarding rows one through FABULOUS. Today, the airline announced its first North American "Pink Flight," in celebration of the 2008 Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras."

It isn't rocket science.

mariner



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User currently offlineghifty From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 891 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8119 times:

Personally, I think it'd be very awkward as a passenger to witness. Even if you support LGBT rights. But from a corporate standpoint, it's a certain victory.


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User currently offlineChinook747 From Canada, joined Mar 2007, 126 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 8115 times:

Quoting ju068 (Reply 6):
What if someone is religious or is not feeling comfortable around this kind of behavior? SAS should not have gone against the beliefs of one group of people to please another one. There is a reason why airlines have not done so before

really quite simple..speak with your dollar if you don't like the way a company runs their business to attract a market segment.


25 RoseFlyer : This sounds like a marketing ploy to a relatively wealthy demographic known for extensive traveling. Makes sense to me to have a publicity event where
26 Post contains images AirPacific747 : Whatever. This is nothing more than a publicity stunt, and the airline is only doing this because they think it will give them a larger profit in the
27 Post contains links sdexplorer00 : First of all that article is from 2007 and things change. More recent info shows wide acceptance in countries like Germany, France, and the UK while
28 Post contains images flyguy89 : From a marketing perspective I can't see how it's really smart for an airline to involve it's brand in controversial social or political issues consid
29 mariner : Tell that to Southwest. I am so anti-social I got annoyed with the number of times they wanted me to sing Happy Birthday to people I don't know. It m
30 blueflyer : I like a quiet cabin and I generally am not a fan of theatrics and showing-off. Proposals and weddings (whether it's straight, gay, or man-animal) ran
31 lhcabincrew : dear all, this is my first post, be nice to me! as a crew member for a big german airline i am proud to welcome passengers from around the globe. when
32 Post contains images prebennorholm : I always put a little red flag next to companies which force anything upon me which isn't related to the product I am buying. Especially when they do
33 abrelosojos : = WTF? Alaska gives prayer cards to passengers? Saludos, A.
34 Charles79 : Welcome to a.net! I know, and this is the point that is being lost here...two people got to get married in a plane while flying, how amazing is that!
35 Post contains links mariner : They did last time I flew 'em, and this article says they still do - with a photo: http://www.everywhereist.com/flying-on-a-prayer/ "Now that we get
36 flyguy89 : A prayer card is quite a bit easier to ignore than a whole wedding ceremony with a rapping flight attendant.
37 skygirl1990 : Surely handing out prayer cards to passengers on a plane.... may not help giving off the impression of a safe airline!!!
38 mariner : They're hard to ignore when they're on your food plate and I find them offensive. So I donlt fly Alaska. One mo' time - it's called choice. Your choi
39 flyguy89 : ....and that's perfectly fine, just pointing out though that it's much less obtrusive than having a whole party happening around your seat while you'
40 AirCanada787 : I hardly think that its going to become the norm for SAS, or any airline to have on-board weddings. It was something that was done once, nearly a yea
41 GT4EZY : What can I say? I haven't come across homophobia much in life but the few times I have the People themselves had something to hide. I.e they were in N
42 NZ1 : Hi Everyone, This thread has had a large number of posts removed because of personal attacks and off topic discussion. Please try and stick to the top
43 AirPacific747 : Don't be silly now. It has nothing to do with that. I honestly couldn't care less whether it was a straight or a gay couple getting married on my fli
44 Post contains links Bestwestern : Im not sure about that. Thats good, but SAS risked losing other business. "Primary target group for SAS are business travelers who pay full price tic
45 deltaflyertoo : I can address that. I've worked extensively with airlines and their lgbt marketing campaigns in Los Angeles. The gay market is a HUGE rev. generating
46 deltaflyertoo : If left handed people weren't allowed to marry and had anti labor discrimination laws in place (i.e. the US which is supposedly supposed to be free)
47 flyguy89 : There is a difference between having ads geared toward the gay community as, you said it yourself, it's niche advertising which is a common practice.
48 abrelosojos : = Wow. I think you may have officially turned me off from Alaska Airlines. Sort of the same reason I don't fly Saudia, Royal Brunei, etc. Saludos, A.
49 Bestwestern : It makes up 15% of tourism revenue and 10% of airline revenue, which means LGBT people travel more than others and spend more. Such a sizable market
50 TBSSpilot : I am also a first-time poster, and boy have I picked a topic to jump in on... So, in the interest of full disclosure, I do not embrace the idea of gay
51 mariner : I believe this took place in the business class cabin, with that cabin blocked to others and all the pax in the cabin were associated with the weddin
52 HBJZA : SAS here is trying to demonstrate that they are politically correct and that everyone is welcome on their flights. IMHO that is BS! I personally don't
53 Kyrone : Its interesting that in all this dialogue, no one has answered definitively whether or not SAS roped off the C-Class cabin exclusively for those assoc
54 Post contains images ghifty : Me either, I payed for a ticket and all I want is to get from A to B.. proposals are different, but a wedding? I'm not against gay rights, but the wh
55 Mortyman : My god, lighten up will you ! This thing proabably did'nt take longer than 10 minutes in total and it's not a regulare happening. It's not like this
56 mariner : I'm surely not ashamed of it, LOL. If it had been a straight wedding this thread would not even exist. mariner
57 smi0006 : Why is that notion BS? Not everyone is welcome on an SAS flight? Please clarify your point. As has been mentioned repeatedly; this was not a normal f
58 NZ1 : Time to lock this one up I'm afraid. Nothing further constructive appears to be forthcoming from leaving it open. NZ1 Forum Moderator
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