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Flybe's E-175's - Where Are They?  
User currently offlinevirginblue4 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 916 posts, RR: 0
Posted (3 years 1 month 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 9278 times:

Does anyone know where they are? Last I heard was they were finalising some financial paperwork, but that was quite a while ago. Are Flybe not in a good financial state? What state are they in, in general?

Anyone know when they are going to finally be put into service?

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User currently offlineirshava From Ukraine, joined Oct 2011, 249 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 month 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 9209 times:

I think someone started a similar topic a few weeks back but there are a few frame done and ready to be delivered... perhaps a delay at Embraer?


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User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7737 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 month 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9054 times:

PT-TIB that is slated to become G-FBJA was pictured in flight at SJK in full flybe livery as long ago as 19 May.

PT-TOB that is slated to become G-FBJB had its first flight at SJK on 14 July.

N either of the above aircraft have yet been delivered. But why?


User currently offlinejamies80085 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2008, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 month 19 hours ago) and read 8814 times:

There's around four aircraft waiting on the tarmac in Brazil at Embraer's facility. Apparently there's a clause in the financial paperwork that states the aircraft must be in uk airspace in a given amount of time after leaving Brazil. Apparently its not viable to get the aircraft in uk airspace in this time due to the fuel stops en-route  


Cross my heart and hope to fly, f**k right off into the middle of the sky... that would be my ecstasy
User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3038 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 month 19 hours ago) and read 8790 times:

There's around four aircraft waiting on the tarmac in Brazil at Embraer's facility. Apparently there's a clause in the financial paperwork that states the aircraft must be in uk airspace in a given amount of time after leaving Brazil. Apparently its not viable to get the aircraft in uk airspace in this time due to the fuel stops en-route

if thats the case they could consider at trip down to Port Stanley and back.

More likely new contract needed and and therefore financing which may no longer be available at similar rates.

Pretty sure Flybe don't really want them do they !


User currently offlinebmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1835 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 month 11 hours ago) and read 8303 times:

Quoting jamies80085 (Reply 3):
There's around four aircraft waiting on the tarmac in Brazil at Embraer's facility. Apparently there's a clause in the financial paperwork that states the aircraft must be in uk airspace in a given amount of time after leaving Brazil. Apparently its not viable to get the aircraft in uk airspace in this time due to the fuel stops en-route  

Not heard this one before? Doesn't really make much sense, British Airways E170s have made it to the UK just fine.

Quoting virginblue4 (Thread starter):
Anyone know when they are going to finally be put into service?

All four are currently schedule to begin service on 1st December 2011, but there have been many dates before this that did not materialize.

Quoting irshava (Reply 1):
Perhaps a delay at Embraer?

Embraer is not responsible for the delay.

Quoting virginblue4 (Thread starter):
Are Flybe not in a good financial state? What state are they in, in general?

All things considered, the airline is doing very well. It recently published some good results, with certain revenues growing year on year.

Quoting virginblue4 (Thread starter):
finalising some financial paperwork

I believe this is the reason for the delay, something about financing all of the said aircraft all in one go... rather than individually?

One of the Flybe Embraer 175 aircraft was active today over Brazil on a test flight of some sort. Would make sense if they want them in service by December, could be the start of the customer acceptances?

bmi.


User currently offlinejamies80085 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2008, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 month 11 hours ago) and read 8281 times:

Quoting bmibaby737 (Reply 5):
Not heard this one before? Doesn't really make much sense, British Airways E170s have made it to the UK just fine.

Its something to do with the finance coming from a Brazilian source, lower interest rates and therefore lower cost of the aircraft.



Cross my heart and hope to fly, f**k right off into the middle of the sky... that would be my ecstasy
User currently offlinesam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 month 11 hours ago) and read 8196 times:

Do we know which routes they will be used on first?

LGW to INV and GCI?



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User currently offlineRubberJungle From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6822 times:

Flybe has signed for $500 million in committed financing for the first 20 Embraer 175s, securing financing for aircraft deliveries up to July 2014.

First delivery scheduled for November.

[Edited 2011-11-24 05:41:44]

User currently offlinetrb10 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6616 times:

http://www.flybe.com/corporate/media/news/1111/24.htm There's your answer!

User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3317 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 6562 times:

Quoting VV701 (Reply 2):
N either of the above aircraft have yet been delivered. But why?

I think they've been working on a Plan B of sorts. The new DHC8-Q400s they took over the summer have gone already and now it looks as if the delayed ERJs will take their place. They are not looking to grow capacity as much as they were for obvious reasons. In other news, the share price has plummeted somewhat of late but that's aviation alas.


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12594 posts, RR: 34
Reply 11, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6410 times:

So we should be seeing the first two aircraft being delivered by the end of the month!

Looking forward to seeing them in service; the E-195 is a lovely aircraft to fly in, and I'm sure the 175 will be a welcome change for pax.


User currently offlinebaje427 From Barbados, joined Jul 2011, 405 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6370 times:

Is Flybe going to get rid of the Q400?

User currently offlinebmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1835 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6359 times:

Quoting baje427 (Reply 12):
Is Flybe going to get rid of the Q400?

The E175 will be used to replace some of the existing Q400s which are coming to the end of their leases, but the airline will keep a large fleet of Q400s for the considerable future.


User currently offlineJobsaGoodun From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6044 times:

I read somewhere that 29 of the 35 firm orders were to replace existing aircraft in the fleet with the remaining 6 earmarked for future growth. Obviously, that can certainly change either by renewing Q400 leases, or by confirming some of the 105 options that they have to the E175 but it would seem prudent in the current climate.

Clearly the financing took longer than expected which is perhaps understandable as it looks like the first 20 will all be owned and not leased! I think this only goes to further demonstrate the strength of the Flybe business model.

It will be good to see them arrive!


User currently offlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7809 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5866 times:

According to Gatwick Spotters List, G-FBJA and G-FBJC were registered yesterday.

User currently offlinebmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1835 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (3 years 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5811 times:

I believe now due to enter service second week of December

User currently offlinebmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1835 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (3 years 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5377 times:

Arriving this afternoon at Exeter on delivery.

User currently offlineacelanzarote From Spain, joined Nov 2005, 857 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (3 years 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5283 times:

Both recently departed LPA for EXT.


from the Island with sun and great photo's.. Why not visit Lanzarote
User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3683 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (3 years 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4896 times:

Quoting acelanzarote (Reply 18):
Both recently departed LPA for EXT.

Hmmm....thought most EMBs enter the EU via Ireland because of lower taxes in the Emerald Isle..



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User currently offlineextspotter From United Kingdom, joined May 2007, 992 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (3 years 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4887 times:

The BE E195s arrived via the Canaries before. I think the BA Cityflier Embraers did as well, those also were delivered to Exeter.


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User currently offlinebmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1835 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (3 years 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4584 times:

Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 19):
Hmmm....thought most EMBs enter the EU via Ireland because of lower taxes in the Emerald Isle..

Alitalia's Embraers fly to Stansted, England - before proceeding to Italy on delivery. Flybe & BA's Embraers go to Exeter.


User currently offlinesam1987 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 946 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 3983 times:

Anyone have an update as to where/when BE's new aircraft will be deployed?


Next flights: LGW-LBA-LGW, LHR-SIN-SYD, SYD-BKK-LHR, LGW-GRO, GRO-CIA, CIA-MAD, MAD-LGW
User currently offlineMANmatt From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 969 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3919 times:

Quoting sam1987 (Reply 22):
Anyone have an update as to where/when BE's new aircraft will be deployed?

G-FBJA is currently based at MAN and operates 1 - 2 flights to CDG and back along with routes such as HAJ and DUS.


User currently offlinefaddypainter From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3847 times:

The other one, G-FBJC, is BHX based and currently operating 3x daily to DUS. I guess they are trying to give Eurowings a run for their money.

25 kaitak : 'FBJB and 'JD were registered on Friday, so they should be delivered imminently. In the original schedules, the 175 was supposed to operate a MAN-JER
26 sam1987 : Interesting stuff, thanks. Do we know when LGW will see them?
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