virginblue4 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 831 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 7905 times:
Does anyone know where they are? Last I heard was they were finalising some financial paperwork, but that was quite a while ago. Are Flybe not in a good financial state? What state are they in, in general?
Anyone know when they are going to finally be put into service?
jamies80085 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2008, 154 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7441 times:
There's around four aircraft waiting on the tarmac in Brazil at Embraer's facility. Apparently there's a clause in the financial paperwork that states the aircraft must be in uk airspace in a given amount of time after leaving Brazil. Apparently its not viable to get the aircraft in uk airspace in this time due to the fuel stops en-route
Cross my heart and hope to fly, f**k right off into the middle of the sky... that would be my ecstasy
rutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 1997 posts, RR: 5 Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7417 times:
There's around four aircraft waiting on the tarmac in Brazil at Embraer's facility. Apparently there's a clause in the financial paperwork that states the aircraft must be in uk airspace in a given amount of time after leaving Brazil. Apparently its not viable to get the aircraft in uk airspace in this time due to the fuel stops en-route
if thats the case they could consider at trip down to Port Stanley and back.
More likely new contract needed and and therefore financing which may no longer be available at similar rates.
Pretty sure Flybe don't really want them do they !
bmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1636 posts, RR: 10 Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6930 times:
Quoting jamies80085 (Reply 3): There's around four aircraft waiting on the tarmac in Brazil at Embraer's facility. Apparently there's a clause in the financial paperwork that states the aircraft must be in uk airspace in a given amount of time after leaving Brazil. Apparently its not viable to get the aircraft in uk airspace in this time due to the fuel stops en-route
Not heard this one before? Doesn't really make much sense, British Airways E170s have made it to the UK just fine.
Quoting virginblue4 (Thread starter): Anyone know when they are going to finally be put into service?
All four are currently schedule to begin service on 1st December 2011, but there have been many dates before this that did not materialize.
I believe this is the reason for the delay, something about financing all of the said aircraft all in one go... rather than individually?
One of the Flybe Embraer 175 aircraft was active today over Brazil on a test flight of some sort. Would make sense if they want them in service by December, could be the start of the customer acceptances?
skipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 2373 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 5189 times:
Quoting VV701 (Reply 2): N either of the above aircraft have yet been delivered. But why?
I think they've been working on a Plan B of sorts. The new DHC8-Q400s they took over the summer have gone already and now it looks as if the delayed ERJs will take their place. They are not looking to grow capacity as much as they were for obvious reasons. In other news, the share price has plummeted somewhat of late but that's aviation alas.
bmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1636 posts, RR: 10 Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4986 times:
Quoting baje427 (Reply 12): Is Flybe going to get rid of the Q400?
The E175 will be used to replace some of the existing Q400s which are coming to the end of their leases, but the airline will keep a large fleet of Q400s for the considerable future.
JobsaGoodun From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 94 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4671 times:
I read somewhere that 29 of the 35 firm orders were to replace existing aircraft in the fleet with the remaining 6 earmarked for future growth. Obviously, that can certainly change either by renewing Q400 leases, or by confirming some of the 105 options that they have to the E175 but it would seem prudent in the current climate.
Clearly the financing took longer than expected which is perhaps understandable as it looks like the first 20 will all be owned and not leased! I think this only goes to further demonstrate the strength of the Flybe business model.
bmibaby737 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1636 posts, RR: 10 Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3211 times:
Quoting bjorn14 (Reply 19): Hmmm....thought most EMBs enter the EU via Ireland because of lower taxes in the Emerald Isle..
Alitalia's Embraers fly to Stansted, England - before proceeding to Italy on delivery. Flybe & BA's Embraers go to Exeter.
faddypainter From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 126 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2474 times:
The other one, G-FBJC, is BHX based and currently operating 3x daily to DUS. I guess they are trying to give Eurowings a run for their money.
I ♡ Farnborough LARS (West)
25 kaitak: 'FBJB and 'JD were registered on Friday, so they should be delivered imminently. In the original schedules, the 175 was supposed to operate a MAN-JER
26 sam1987: Interesting stuff, thanks. Do we know when LGW will see them?
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