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Was There A QF A380 Accident At LAX On OCT 3?  
User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3624 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 11223 times:

I was looking though some A380 photos, and I saw a photo of an QF A380 with the upper half it's left wing fence missing, so I wonder, was there an QF A380 accident on October 3 2011 at LAX?

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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2891 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 11210 times:

Can you post the pic? It would be quite helpful...


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User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3624 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 11085 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 1):
Can you post the pic? It would be quite helpful...

I wish I knew how, because I wanted to show the photo. I guess I may need to learn how to do that.


User currently offlinescanorama From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 119 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 11043 times:

Upload the photo to this site - http://imageshack.us/

Then post the link.  


User currently offlineandrewtang From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 461 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10989 times:

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 2):

I wish I knew how, because I wanted to show the photo. I guess I may need to learn how to do that.

I believe you are talking about this picture?


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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2891 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10945 times:

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 2):
I guess I may need to learn how to do that.

Lots of good info here on that  http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/help.main

Quoting andrewtang (Reply 4):
I believe you are talking about this picture?

Hmmmmm, interesting. I know for us, we've had A320's hit with catering trucks and whatnot, but our wings are close the the ground compared to an A380. Possibly something simple like a bird strike or lighning damage or something, and they CDLed it with a minor performance it to get it back to a station that had a spare? Does anyone know if the A380 wingtip fence is 2 separate pieces (top and bottom), unlike an A320 that is one solid fence?



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4833 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 10740 times:

I believe it was a catering truck hit it, after inspection the flight continued without the wingtip fence... obviously a slight fuel burn penalty but nothing serious.


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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2987 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 10507 times:

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 6):
I believe it was a catering truck hit it

How on earth is a catering truck supposed to knock to the top half of a fence off? QF don't load any catering through door 3 upstairs, only through door 4, which is well clear of the wing... Surely a catering truck would have hit the lower part of the fence rather than the upper half?


User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4833 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10347 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 7):
:59:24 your local time (1 hour 16 minutes 45 secs ago) and read 155 times:

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 6):
I believe it was a catering truck hit it

How on earth is a catering truck supposed to knock to the top half of a fence off? QF don't load any catering through door 3 upstairs, only through door 4, which is well clear of the wing... Surely a catering truck would have hit the lower part of the fence rather than the upper half?

I've seen catering vehicles using U3L. When the A380 came along a lot of specially modified trucks came that could lift that high... then again it is quite far from the doors to the wingtip and as you point out on the top is damaged. Just reporting what I had heard... anyone wants to correct that go right ahead.



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User currently offlinedynamicsguy From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 873 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10132 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 5):
Does anyone know if the A380 wingtip fence is 2 separate pieces (top and bottom), unlike an A320 that is one solid fence?

I've seen a few good photos of them recently - my company used to make them. It's mostly sheetmetal with machined internal structure. The upper and lower portions of the fence are separate parts of the structure, but the whole structure (wingtip + fence) are a single unit attached to the end of the wing.


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2987 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 9836 times:

Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 8):
Just reporting what I had heard... anyone wants to correct that go right ahead.

Sorry -- not taking a stab at you! I'm just wondering how stupid the catering truck driver must have been to hit the top part of the fence (and how lucky they are for not damaging the wing at the same time).


User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2891 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6042 times:

Quoting dynamicsguy (Reply 9):
The upper and lower portions of the fence are separate parts of the structure,

Thanks! I was thinking that since the fence on the A380 is so large compared to the A320, and based on that picture it was a very clean cut, that it had an upper and lower portion compared to the A320 where it is all one fence.



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User currently offlineNavigator From Sweden, joined Jul 2001, 1208 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5904 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 10):
Quoting Zkpilot (Reply 8):
Just reporting what I had heard... anyone wants to correct that go right ahead.

Sorry -- not taking a stab at you! I'm just wondering how stupid the catering truck driver must have been to hit the top part of the fence (and how lucky they are for not damaging the wing at the same time).

They are not stupid   Such accidents happen a lot around aircraft with all vehicles and catering trucks. My brother was onboard a 747 in Copenhagen when a catering truck ran into the aft fuselage at 30 kilometers per hour. Large hole in the fuselage and that trip cancelled... Was long ago but such things happen...



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