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UA/CO SFO-IND? (well, According To The Route Map)  
User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4653 times:

United has some of the latest OAG additions added to their route map online -- One of them is SFO-IND operated by CO. Can anybody confirm that this will be an eventual routing?

http://cgi.ua.flightlookup.com/routemap/routemap-fullscreen.html


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User currently offlinepoint2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 2740 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4534 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Thread starter):
United has some of the latest OAG additions added to their route map online -- One of them is SFO-IND operated by CO. Can anybody confirm that this will be an eventual routing?

http://cgi.ua.flightlookup.com/route....html

You're correct, it does show up on the route map. How long has this been on, would you know?

Okay, my theory (probably a bad one at that, very bad in fact, but here goes....) is that CO will begin the route. It was just added to the route map yesterday, with an announcement to be made today. But with all of the AA BK news, UA decided to hold off on the announcement, fearing it would get lost with today's big news.

Okay, bad, very bad theory.......

 


User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 4254 times:

Quoting point2point (Reply 1):

You're correct, it does show up on the route map. How long has this been on, would you know?

I've got no idea. I just saw it tonight when I was bored and surfed through the route map under SFO direct routes.

I would have expected that this would have been announced with the recent round of OAG adds. But perhaps they are trying to figure out the proper aircraft before they make it official. The map says it will be operated by CO metal so best guess is 1x 73G or 738.

According to UA.com there are a few adds that didn't make it to OAG but are still bookable on the website. Two examples are 1x LAX/PHX-EWR on UA metal. So perhaps SFO-IND is a delayed announcement until later in the winter.



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User currently offlinedumbell2424 From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 914 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4161 times:
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Strangely enough, if you type SFO to IND in the boxes at the top, the nonstop doesn't show up. Just connecting thru ORD or DEN

User currently onlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2583 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4120 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 2):
I would have expected that this would have been announced with the recent round of OAG adds. But perhaps they are trying to figure out the proper aircraft before they make it official. The map says it will be operated by CO metal so best guess is 1x 73G or 738.

According to UA.com there are a few adds that didn't make it to OAG but are still bookable on the website. Two examples are 1x LAX/PHX-EWR on UA metal. So perhaps SFO-IND is a delayed announcement until later in the winter.

It just looks like IND-SFO maybe an error to me. IND has just RJs now and could UA/CO operate IND-SFO with an RJ?

Regarding the website routes, LAX-PHX is shown. PHX-EWR is shown eastbound only UA, Westbound CO only. In many cases blue and gold , blue and gray or gray and gold are shown with one looking like an outline.


User currently offlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1605 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4070 times:

CO has the 737 IND-IAH and is a CO Mainline Station so IND-SFO would be great ..

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39674 posts, RR: 75
Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3917 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 4):
IND has just RJs now and could UA/CO operate IND-SFO with an RJ?

I certainly hope not. That is too long to fly on an RJ.
I've done SFO-DEN-IND.
At that time it was a 747-400 from SFO-DEN, then a 757 from DEN-IND.
Now the DEN-IND segment has been downgraded to an RJ.
The 747 occasionally makes an appearance on the SFO-DEN segment. I think United has used every kind of aircraft on the SFO-DEN segment and often times has wide-bodies.

[Edited 2011-11-30 00:55:25]


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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3786 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 4):
IND has just RJs now and could UA/CO operate IND-SFO with an RJ?

I certainly hope not. That is too long to fly on an RJ.

It's well outside the range of the CRJ-700/900 (with a full load,) let alone the -200. No idea on the E-170 or E-145XR, though.



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User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3757 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 4):
Regarding the website routes, LAX-PHX is shown. PHX-EWR is shown eastbound only UA, Westbound CO only. In many cases blue and gold , blue and gray or gray and gold are shown with one looking like an outline.

LAX-PHX and EWR are bookable on United.com from April onwards with United metal, eastbound only (don't ask me why.)

Quoting Goldenshield (Reply 7):
It's well outside the range of the CRJ-700/900 (with a full load,) let alone the -200. No idea on the E-170 or E-145XR, though.

I honestly don't think the CR7/CR9s have the legs for SFO-IND. Delta operates LAX-IND using a 320 -- if they could I'm sure they would try to fly an E170 on the route.

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
At that time it was a 747-400 from SFO-DEN, then a 757 from DEN-IND.

That was a looonnngg time ago. Back in like 2002 when UA still had the MX base in IND.

Quoting dumbell2424 (Reply 3):
Strangely enough, if you type SFO to IND in the boxes at the top, the nonstop doesn't show up. Just connecting thru ORD or DEN

Ah damn you are correct. But it still shows up as a nonstop from SFO when you click on SFO and zoom in.



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User currently offlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5970 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3701 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 8):
I honestly don't think the CR7/CR9s have the legs for SFO-IND

Actually, they can, but only with about 10-20 passengers. When they are fresh from the factory, they fly BTV-SLC non-stop, and that's only 30 miles longer than IND-SFO.



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User currently offlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6086 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3481 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Thread starter):
Quoting point2point (Reply 1):

However, if you take the route map to show just SFO-IND. It only shows connections.



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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3716 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3295 times:

IND has been looking for the resumption of SFO service for some time. Here's a November 2010 article from Caldwell VanRiper, IND's ad agency:
http://www.cvrindy.com/detail.php?id=132&t=45

I predict that this route will do very well for UA, especially with the connections UA offers at SFO. Last time there was IND-SFO, it was a seasonal flight on NW, and there wasn't much offered in the way of connections.



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User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3271 times:

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 11):

I think it would do well too. Note how over the last few years UA has been adding more heatland destinations to the SFO hub including OKC, MCI, and STL. IND would fit in nicely.



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User currently onlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2583 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3263 times:

It hasn't been announced.
It shows only on the IND and SFO maps
It doesn't show on SFO-IND or IND-SFO maps
If its CO, then it couldn't be anything but a 737 route. CO RJs won't make it.

I'd be surprised this route is for real. If so, it would most likely be on UA equipment (319 or EMB170).


User currently offlineTOMMY767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3251 times:

Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 13):
I'd be surprised this route is for real. If so, it would most likely be on UA equipment (319 or EMB170).

On the map it's indicated on CO metal (gold coloring.)

Again, perhaps a glitch but wishful thinking at this point.



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User currently onlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2583 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3240 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 14):
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 13):
I'd be surprised this route is for real. If so, it would most likely be on UA equipment (319 or EMB170).

On the map it's indicated on CO metal (gold coloring.)

Sorry to mention on my post that it was in gold coloring, thus CO. That's why I think it's a mistake.


User currently offlineCOSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1605 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3124 times:

There are no UA emps at IND anymore so any Mailine to IND has to be CO

User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39674 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2947 times:

Quoting TOMMY767 (Reply 8):
That was a looonnngg time ago. Back in like 2002 when UA still had the MX base in IND.

I took this flight in 2005.



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