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User currently offlineCo LITE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (12 years 12 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1556 times:

I was in MOB a month ago and I saw an ASA-Delta flight attendant chewing bubble gum while greeting passengers. And she delayed the flight just to pour the coffee out on the ramp. What kind of behaviour is this? I am just curious. I asked a MESA F/A this question and she said MESA would fire people for that behaviour.

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User currently offlineBoeingfan4life From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (12 years 12 months 4 days ago) and read 1357 times:

the bubble gum part is not really unprofessional in my opinion. the pouring of the coffee on the ramp is extremely unprofessional!

User currently offlineNotar520AC From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1606 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (12 years 12 months 4 days ago) and read 1331 times:

That really surprised me! All of my flights with Delta have resulted in very nice flight crew, but that is just filthy.




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User currently offlineDeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 22
Reply 3, posted (12 years 12 months 4 days ago) and read 1319 times:

Surprising... and probably not true.

The bubble gum thing is debatable. But what flight attendant would dump coffee out on the ramp when he/she could just dump it in the drain right there in the galley.

Please. Just another Delta bashing post by Co LITE.



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User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6585 posts, RR: 55
Reply 4, posted (12 years 12 months 4 days ago) and read 1291 times:

I'm afraid your job wouldn't last very long at all in Cathay if you did either of those things!

User currently offlineJunior From Switzerland, joined Apr 2001, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (12 years 12 months 4 days ago) and read 1270 times:

One thing about the coffee folks :
The drain would have the same effect, at least on any Airbus aircraft, as it is dumped directly overboard. The only place would be the toilet, which leads to the waste container, or a liquid container, which is offloaded by catering on the next stop. The subject surfaces in our company from time to time, because many F/A's don't know that all the sinks are dumped overboard. Even inflight it creates the problem of coffee-brown aircraft bellys.


User currently offlineMiller22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 717 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (12 years 12 months 4 days ago) and read 1254 times:

Coffee on the ramp isn't as bad as you all think it is. It happens quite often, but I do agree that in front of the passengers is bad judgement.
Before the EPA stepped in, all of the jet fuel that was inside the engine cowling but not combusted, was drained onto the ramp. Glycol based anti-ice agents are hosed everywhere and leave an awfull mess. I think coffee is ok.


User currently offlineCo LITE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (12 years 12 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1228 times:

DeltaSFO,
I took a photograph of this, and its quite a thriller. The F/A delayed the flight just to go walk down the airstairs and dump the stale coffee. I also saw a bottle of Delta water laying on the ramp under the jetway.


User currently offlineBHopsde From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 12 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1204 times:

The coffee incident is harmless, wouldn't do it myself. The incident on the flight you mentioned involving HNL was a lack of tact on the part of that f/a. However I also question your professionalism and tact based on your choice of adjective. And I'm not impressed either by the name of the person who respects you in this forum.

User currently offlineRlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1075 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (12 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1187 times:

Lack of tact? Get real. Try unprofessional to the highest degree if most of the suuounding pax were laughing at the situation. even the female fa were trying to make excuses for the fool.


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User currently offlineToady From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (12 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1179 times:

Rlwynn: What the hell has the FA's sexual orientation got to do with it?
I wonder if you'd be making that kind of posting if an attractive female FA had hit upon you.
Grow up and learn to tolerate.


User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2333 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (12 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1161 times:

RLWYNN, sounds like you are homophobic. and has nothing to do with the topic.


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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (12 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1156 times:

Learn to tolerate????

ANY F/a has no business hitting on others, there job is for the saftey of the pax and that is all. If they want to hit on each other than they need to quit their jobs.



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User currently offlineRlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1075 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (12 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1151 times:

I do tolerate. Every day. People seem to forget what tolerate means these days. The word tolerance seems to have been replaced with the word accept.

Tolerate: To endure or put up with.

Tolerance: Sympathy or indulgence for beliefs or practices differing from or conflicting with ones own.

If I was hit on by a cute female fa while sitting there with my wedding ring on, it would also show the utmost in unprofessionalism. Although I would be flattered. But that is not the point.

If prople want to be that way then they have to be ready for public opinion. Even if they do not like it.




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User currently offlineRlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1075 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (12 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1136 times:

I know this a touchy subject around here. I apologize if I offended any of you with my strong choice of wording. But every body does have a choice and if one group of people have to tolerate then so does the other.



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User currently offlineToady From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (12 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1123 times:

Whoa there! I didn't say it was RIGHT, did I?
As I asked before: "What the hell has the FA's sexual orientation got to do with it?"
Do you care to answer?


User currently offlineRlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1075 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (12 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1119 times:

Sure I will answer. But now we are moving way off topic. Unlike before where the subject was unprofessionalism you want to attempt to flush out an argument on a totally different subject. I wont do that.

But, the reason for the strong words were because of the absolutely lack of restraint shown by the person. I was in the back row of the DC-10 and was clueless to the situation untill I overheard the person in question absolutely giddy describing the "cute" guy a few rows up to a female fa. Big Deal. For the next 3 hours I has to listen to this gut debate if he should approach the guy. This guy was non stop talking so every peorson around us was totally aware of what was happening. Somehow I guess they made the connection because at one point the fa Stood in the aisle talking with this guy for 20 minutes beaming like he just got his first kiss. Since the plane was continuing on to Detroit they very publicly exchanged addresses with assurances that they would hook up the next week. During oj service a pax made a comment to the female fa and her reply was "He is persistent when he wants something". She was clearly embarassed by his actions.



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User currently offlineCritter592 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (12 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1104 times:

LETS GET BACK ON TOPIC HERE...

DeltaSFO, You work for Delta, What is your explanation, Do you chew your gum everytime you poor coffee out on the stairs. I bet that stain still sits in MOB. Why don't you fly down here and you will see the stain sitting there on the tarmac at Gate A1 in MOB... LOL Total Unprofessionalism, I've seen better Airtran/Valujet Employees than this. Not even WN Flight Attendants do this crap.

This is what I think of Delta/ASA's Total Unprofessionalism

This is what I think of DeltaSFO's opinion


User currently offlineToady From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (12 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1087 times:

Rlwynn: Good! Now we agree; that is not professional behaviour. Neither is chewing bubble gum.

I was not trying to flush out an argument on a different topic - YOU mentioned sexuality and I wondered what that had to do with professionalism.





User currently offlineRlwynn From Germany, joined Dec 2000, 1075 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (12 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1078 times:

You are right throwing the coffee out was not unprofessional.
And you are right I did mention the sex of the person involed.
I also used a derogitory term to describe the person who annoyed me for hours.



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User currently offlineSophieMaltese From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2064 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (12 years 12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1061 times:

Your post makes me think of while I was waiting at the airport to board a flight recently. I was watching a Delta plane get ready to leave, and one pilot was stuffing his face with food. I know he's got to eat, but I just thought it was funny.

User currently offlineWhistler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 12 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1037 times:

"What is more unprofessional. Pouring coffee on the ramp or a homo fa hitting on passengers like my NW hnl-lax flight a couple of months ago."

BWAHAHAHAHA! Call me homophobic if you want to but I would feel very uncomfortable if something like that happened to me!



User currently offlineTeXstud323 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (12 years 12 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1026 times:

Only on A.net can a discussion about spilt coffee on the tarmac can seque into something gay-oriented.. oh well, just an observation... Back to the coffee and question for F/A's ... unless I dreamed this I swear my friend who flies for NW told me once that coffee down the galley drain is a no-no? I don't see the harm but can anyone verify...

IMHO.. the gum chewing is definately not a good show but I'll take that over some other behaviors I have seen (everyone has bad and/or less glamourous days)  Insane



p.s. it wasn't an INTERNATIONAL COFFEE was it?


User currently offlineToady From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (12 years 12 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1022 times:

Whistler: Hey, that's not homophobic; I too would feel uncomfortable but discomfort and homophobia are 2 different things.

I guess the line between professional and unprofessional behaviour is a fine one for anyone (not just FAs).
We all know that on longer flights there are long periods of inactivity - no food being served, everyone already has a drink, they're watching the IFE, they're sleeping or whatever. During those times, I see nothing wrong with FAs fratenizing with passengers or even flirting with them - if it's done tastefully and to appropriate people.
Also, I guess that's one person's idea of professionalism is not another's: I think it's professional to be light-hearted and informal because light-hearted and informal FAs make my flight more enjoyable. I'm sure there are those who think that FAs should be more straight-laced.

Whatever, I still think chewing bubblegum is not good!  Smile


User currently offlineFlight152 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 3388 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (12 years 12 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1017 times:

TeXstud323-

Actually, I think it was Starbucks.  Laugh out loud  Laugh out loud  Laugh out loud


25 BHopsde : NO ONE should hit on another person while at work PERIOD. That would be unprofessional no matter what. But more happens behind the scenes than what me
26 Mx5_boy : Rlwyn says: """What is more unprofessional. Pouring coffee on the ramp or a homo fa hitting on passengers like my NW hnl-lax flight a couple of months
27 Co LITE : People, Lets get this post back on track. All I wanted is opinions.
28 Post contains images Heavymetal : So the "masculinity challemged" F/A was hitting on your friends, huh? They should feel lucky. It's when a gay man doesn't hit on you that you might ne
29 Post contains images I Like To Fly : You make it sound like the flight was delayed hours because of this. Please. It was probably not more than a 5 minute delay if that. I have seen much
30 Post contains images Toxtethogrady : It took a detour through his bladder first...
31 Flight152 : Too much of a big deal is being made out of this. I hardly doubt that she delayed the flight 15 minutes (15 minutes is what is constidered a delay) by
32 Post contains images Airlinelover : I wanna see the pic! Chris
33 Co LITE : Gum during the Safety Demo is not funny, period. I have had nasty experiences with ASA. Hello, American Eagle
34 Critter592 : You heard him CO Lite, Let him see the picture where the F/As Coffee stain is all over the Tarmac. LOL
35 Co LITE : Critter, I'll have to get it scanned here in this post so those Delta lovers can see, LOL. I hate ASA.
36 Tool : Once again...another Delta Bashing post by all the Anal-Retentive Assholes out there........
37 242 : >>>I was in MOB a month ago and I saw an ASA-Delta flight attendant chewing bubble gum while greeting passengers. And she delayed the flight just to p
38 Post contains images BHopsde : COLite's "Hello American Eagle" Well, what are you going to do once you find something "wrong" with every airline, then who will you fly? I would rath
39 Srbmod : Having been a ramper for both AirTran and ASA, I have seen the flight attendants at both airlines dump coffee from the aircraft onto the ramp, and hav
40 Airtransam : I have seen alot of U.S flight attendants chew gum, u make it sound as if she was BLOWING BUBBLES. As for dumping coffee on the ramp, that I do not be
41 Co LITE : They use CRJ's in MOB.
42 Critter592 : SrbMod, That does remind me when I saw a Southeast Airlines Mechanic just toss the trashbag out the galley hatch. BOMBS AWAY. BOOMP. I wished it would
43 Co LITE : The reason I dont like ASA is because they start too much trouble. During check-in someone dropped their ticket and the agent said "I dont have time f
44 Critter592 : PREACH ON CO Lite
45 SegmentKing : Um, most regional airlines dump the coffee on the ramp. I was watching Delta work my L1011 flight ATL-PBI and the ramp service workers did the same...
46 Post contains images TeXstud323 : so this is how Starbucks got started and why their coffee tastes so bitter.. their humble beginnings find Mr. Starbuck, then a ramper for Pacific Nort
47 Post contains images TeXstud323 : ..scuze me... I mean't "Tall"!
48 Greg : Bless ANY flight attendant who throws out stale coffee!! Who cares if it's on the ramp...they 'toss' garbage bags off the aircraft into those trailers
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