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The Next New USA Airport?  
User currently offlinegegtim From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 66 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 9 months 4 hours ago) and read 13467 times:

To my knowledge, DIA was the last new airport-from-scratch to open in the USA. Does anyone think that there will be another in the next ten years? Is there a need? Where would be the logistically logical place to build it? If this was the subject of any other recent threads, which I have not seen, please forgive me.

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User currently offlineboberito6589 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 342 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 9 months 4 hours ago) and read 13421 times:
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I think that Branson was the last new airport built from scratch

User currently offlineSNCntry32 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 9 months 4 hours ago) and read 13407 times:

I could very well see MSP being a new, scratch, from airport in the next 20-30 years, longer term. The Lindbergh terminal is aging, and it shows it, although MAC keeps up, and I could see the existing airfield being used for the Humphrey Terminal... You can only replace the carpet and ceiling tiles so many times..


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User currently offlineamccann From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 9 months 3 hours ago) and read 13350 times:

Quoting SNCntry32 (Reply 2):
I could very well see MSP being a new, scratch, from airport in the next 20-30 years, longer term.

I really doubt that the city of Minneapolis would get an entirely new airport. Where would the city put the new airport? If I am interrupting the question of the original poster correctly, he is asking an entirely new airport, including runways, taxiways, etc. In light of that, the current MSP airport has a great set of infrastructure (runways, taxiways, parking garages, ATC tower, etc) that would not be worth demolishing or creating a new airport.



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User currently offlineav8orwalk From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 180 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 9 months 3 hours ago) and read 13293 times:

ECP seems to think they are the newest. Probably correct!

From their website:
Welcome to Northwest Florida Beaches International Airport (ECP), the first international airport to be built in the U.S. in more than a decade. Our new airport, opened on May 23, 2010, is located in West Bay, near Panama City and Panama City Beach, and serves as a gateway to Northwest Florida and its beautiful world-famous beaches. Beaches International proudly serves Southwest Airlines and Delta Airlines, which together provide daily flights to key U.S. destinations, including cities serving as international gateways.

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User currently offlineSNCntry32 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 9 months 3 hours ago) and read 13291 times:

Quoting amccann (Reply 3):
I really doubt that the city of Minneapolis would get an entirely new airport. Where would the city put the new airport? If I am interrupting the question of the original poster correctly, he is asking an entirely new airport, including runways, taxiways, etc. In light of that, the current MSP airport has a great set of infrastructure (runways, taxiways, parking garages, ATC tower, etc) that would not be worth demolishing or creating a new airport.

It would not be in the city of Minneapolis, nor is the current airport, it would likely be in the north or southern burbs. The Lindbergh terminal is from the 1960's, and many face lifts have occured. It would indeed be like DIA, out in the middle of nowehre.



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User currently offlinegcb5196 From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 9 months 3 hours ago) and read 13243 times:

Panama city Florida KECP opened May of last year and St. George Utah KSGU opened earlier this year.

User currently offlineghifty From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 891 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 9 months 3 hours ago) and read 13170 times:

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I think the next new US airport will be somewhere in the Inland Empire.. it won't be huge or anything. Probably on a scale similar to ONT or SNA. It'd really help us IE-ians out. Driving to LAX is an ordeal, SNA/ONT/SAN are only an hour away, but the flights are relatively limited in routing.. and they're usually more expensive. It'd be nice to be able to have flights to SEA, PDX, PHX, DIA, etc. I'd imagine that (unfortunately) the airport would be named something like Obama International Airport, or something..

But, one can only dream.   



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User currently offlineamccann From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 175 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 9 months 3 hours ago) and read 13085 times:

Quoting SNCntry32 (Reply 5):
It would not be in the city of Minneapolis, nor is the current airport, it would likely be in the north or southern burbs. The Lindbergh terminal is from the 1960's, and many face lifts have occured. It would indeed be like DIA, out in the middle of nowehre.

Regardless, the need for a new "Minneapolis" is not there. The current airport functions just fine as is, the only issues you have listed are cosmetic. One of the reasons Denver replaced Stapleton with the current Denver International Airport was the incredibly poor airport layout and therefore inefficiency of Stapleton, as well as the lack of capacity. Minneapolis does not face either of those issues at the moment.



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User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 2003 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 9 months 2 hours ago) and read 12917 times:

Quoting av8orwalk (Reply 4):
ECP seems to think they are the newest. Probably correct!

From their website:
Welcome to Northwest Florida Beaches International Airport (ECP), the first international airport to be built in the U.S. in more than a decade. Our new airport, opened on May 23, 2010, is located in West Bay, near Panama City

I'm glad they said International... my first through was Branson has been built within the last ten years.

Quoting ghifty (Reply 7):
I think the next new US airport will be somewhere in the Inland Empire.. it won't be huge or anything. Probably on a scale similar to ONT or SNA. It'd really help us IE-ians out.

I think you have to use ONT first.


User currently offlineSSTeve From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 700 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 9 months ago) and read 12702 times:

Quoting boberito6589 (Reply 1):
I think that Branson was the last new airport built from scratch

Nope, St. George Municipal Airport, DXZ, was opened Jan 13, 2011.

I'm guessing the DXZ is because it's in Utah's "Dixie."

[Edited 2011-12-02 00:39:07]

User currently offlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6124 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12591 times:

Quoting ghifty (Reply 7):

Inland Empire??? ONT has tumbleweeds blowing across it, Riverside I believe built a new terminal which has seen no one use it or even serve the airport. Why on earth would they build a new airport?



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User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3422 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 12557 times:

Quoting SSTeve (Reply 10):
Nope, St. George Municipal Airport, DXZ, was opened Jan 13, 2011.

I'm guessing the DXZ is because it's in Utah's "Dixie."

That sure is pretty recent. It should basically be called skywest field thats pretty much the reason it exists.


User currently offlineskymiler From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 12248 times:

Quoting av8orwalk (Reply 4):
ECP seems to think they are the newest. Probably correct!

And what a disaster of a design for a new airport.

Terrible entry into TSA (even after they fixed it once) that causes passengers to be backed up into the centre of main lobby area. TSA is very slow, as many of the customers are once a year leisure travellers (the target market for St Joe's land holding plans) who are not familiar with the procedures. On one occasion it took the person in front of me over 4 minutes just to get through the Xray.

The access to the jetway at Gate 4 (DL mainline) requires a contortionist's twist between the desk and a railing! There is limited seating at the gate, as it appears the concourse space was used more for concessions (which is probably not a bad tradeoff from the airport's financial point of view).

Avoid it if you can.



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User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5404 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 12153 times:

The answer is "wherever there is a fundamentally flawed airport in an area of very fast growth." Off the top of my head, I can't think of any such places, but there are plenty of parts of the country I don't know very well.

Quoting ghifty (Reply 7):
I think the next new US airport will be somewhere in the Inland Empire.

Nothing of that nature will happen in California until growth returns to the state. My personal opinion is that a constitutional convention will have to happen before the state can become healthy again. Right now it is legally impossible for the legislature to pass a responsible budget.


User currently offlinearticulatexpat From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2006, 156 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 12018 times:

No one has mentioned Ivanpah - Las Vegas.

User currently offline93Sierra From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 11807 times:

Albeit not "new" Phoenix Mesa I believe is the fastest growing (pax wise)

User currently offlinePillowTester From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 11316 times:

Chicago Peotone is still an ongoing project AFAIK. A lot of land has been acquired already, and as recently as earlier this year Illinois Governor Pat Quinn announced his intention to start construction “as fast as humanly possible”.


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User currently offlinegators312 From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 10925 times:
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Quoting PillowTester (Reply 17):

Chicago Peotone is still an ongoing project AFAIK. A lot of land has been acquired already, and as recently as earlier this year Illinois Governor Pat Quinn announced his intention to start construction “as fast as humanly possible”.

According to Wikipedia: In June 2011, Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood noted that there has been little call in Washington for the Peotone airport compared to the support for the O'Hare expansion.

It seems expansion of the current airports in the Chicago area ( ORD , GYY , MKE ) and improving infrastructure around them is garnering more Federal support at the moment.


User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8482 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 10779 times:

Quoting SNCntry32 (Reply 5):
It would indeed be like DIA, out in the middle of nowehre.

Which would be horrible. It is hard to imagine actual concrete reasons for doing that. Want a new terminal (why?), then fine, build one, SXM just did, as did SJO, JFK, and so on.


User currently offlineramprat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1531 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 10403 times:

XNA was built after DEN opened up.

User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4263 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 9549 times:

Quoting articulatexpat (Reply 15):
No one has mentioned Ivanpah - Las Vegas.

I was about to. This is easily the most likely candidate out there, as it is said that LAS is near capacity. However, T3 is about to open, and there is spare capacity on the A gates with US dehubbing and moving to D. I don't think its going to be built as soon as its been talked about, but it will be built, and given there isn't much NIMBYism out in the proposed location, it shouldn't have too many issues getting approvals.

In the shorter term, this isn't a new airfield, but look for MCI to build a brand new terminal in the coming years to replace to the terminals they have now, which were obsolete when they opened, thanks to the airport listening to TWA, and then having TWA change their mind after the terminals were built.


User currently offlineck8msp From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 72 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9366 times:

Having lives in the MSP area for a while I do recall discussion about a future airport being discussed for the southeastern suburbs. Somewhere in the area of Coates with access to Highway 52. This would serve as a reliever for the faster growing suburbs. I believe that demographers have pegged Lakeville as being the fastest growing area with the largest amount of undeveloped property and it will only get harder to get to MSP. Nothing but cornfields now, but in the future?. Longterm I believe that this is likely as MSP is pretty much fully developed and landlocked is it not? But anything would be at least 2 decades away and by that time the metro area could have added another 1-2 million people. They need to fly out of somewhere.

User currently offlinerampart From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 3127 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9250 times:

Difficult to think of any more "inner city" airports like Stapleton that need replacing. LAS and Ivanpah was mentioned, but LAS seems to have room for now. Phoenix was considering a brand new airport out in the desert, but now they have IWN. Palmdale was supposed to replace/augment LAX, but there's still capacity + ONT. ATL is hemmed in, eventually all that infrastructure will be exceeded and old, and a new site might be considered. STL bulged out into a new runway but has entire concourses vacant. Miami is likewise landlocked and dated, but options are poor: Everglades jetport was terminated in the 70s. And then there's JFK/LGA/EWR... Stewart just doesn't seem have enough land to me to become a major airport, but there's no chance of building a new airport city in the NJ swamps, pine barrens, or off shore.

I was thinking of some resort areas that might find a need for new or more air service... and I can't think of any. I have looked for sites for a Summit County airport in Colorado to serve Keystone, Breckenridge, and Copper, for direct flights not to Denver and to save driving the winter passes/tunnels for those so inclined. But that's just me. I haven't bought any land yet.  

-Rampart


User currently offlinesalmonela From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 64 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 9093 times:

Quoting av8orwalk (Reply 4):
From their website:
Welcome to Northwest Florida Beaches International Airport (ECP), the first international airport to be built in the U.S. in more than a decade. Our new airport, opened on May 23, 2010, is located in West Bay, near Panama City and Panama City Beach, and serves as a gateway to Northwest Florida and its beautiful world-famous beaches. Beaches International proudly serves Southwest Airlines and Delta Airlines, which together provide daily flights to key U.S. destinations, including cities serving as international gateways.

Hope somebody tips them off that it's Delta Air Lines (3 words).


25 Independence76 : This is very out-there but a suggestion nonetheless: LAX and JFK. LAX has a decent runway organization system, but the terminals are a mess. No simple
26 BD338 : I think the new T3 at LAS plus the dehubbing by US provides enough space at LAS for at least the next 10+ years. Of course, that is at least as long
27 CIDFlyer : I do believe back in the late 90's or maybe early 2000's there was talk of completely re-locating MSP out to the south suburbs by Lakeville, but evetu
28 steeler83 : With all the discussion of MSP, I'd be saddened to see a new int'l airport built in a completely different location in Minneapolis-St. Paul. I was at
29 apodino : JFK's bigger problem is that LGA exists and takes away airspace that would otherwise be used for JFK flights. Without LGA, you could easily do parall
30 rampart : I've always understood that LAX works well for the O&D passenger, which makes up the bulk of the traffic, I think. I used to fly out of LAX on oc
31 Post contains links and images planesavvy : Well there is a new one under construction I believe. Maybe not where you were thinking though! Akutan, Alaska Sure, it may not be a major new hub but
32 Irishpower : What about San Diego? I thought there was talk about moving the airport out to Miramar NAS.
33 Western727 : I can't seem to imagine this scenario, what with RST (Rochester, Minn.) being relatively close by....?
34 kgaiflyer : Miramar is actually a USMC air station (not an NAS). I'm tempted to say "SAN will move to Miramar when LAX moves to El Toro." (translation: "Not goin
35 ck8msp : You would have to say the same about STC to the north then. So where do they go? West?
36 TOLtommy : Agreed. In all reality, the Humphrey could be expanded to accommodate the non-Skyteam/Delta carriers. This would create enough breathing room to rebu
37 2travel2know2 : Not really "new" but: SWF with fast rail link to Manhattan? and/or maybe an improved ISP with dedicated rail link to Queens or Brooklyn and Manhattan?
38 N1120A : Exactly. I think that plan is on hold indefinitely. Actually, that wasn't the real plan. The plan was to rebuild T1/T2/T3 as interconnected in the wa
39 petertenthije : Speaking of Branson's, how about Richard Branson's new pet project? I know the name is Spaceport America, but doesn't it also count as an airport?
40 Cubsrule : Not really. Many of the terminals (yes, I'm looking at you Terminal 1) are cramped, short on concessions and generally feature long lines. Moreover,
41 Gunsontheroof : I have a hard time seeing anything happening on this front. Proposals for new airports in major metro areas are almost always met with intense hostili
42 xtoler : I'm surprised no one has mentioned Mid America Airport sharing space with Scott AFB on the Illinois side of St. Louis. Wasn't that supposed to hold bi
43 Gunsontheroof : I don't know much about it, but I remember it being the subject of several "...and YOU paid for it." news pieces shortly after it opened and failed t
44 boilerla : What they need is another runway, but unless they happen to discover more land near SAN it won't happen until they build a new airport. WN made its o
45 Cubsrule : I'm having trouble seeing your point. LAWA would put WN out for using their gates appropriately - unlike most carriers at most airports. Heaven forbi
46 SLCUT2777 : While not an entirely new airport from scratch built on the fringes of urban sprawl, the airport likely to see the most new construction with respect
47 N1120A : Um, the terminals work fine for the nature of the airport. Again, its about O&D. You don't need nearly as many concessions or as much space when
48 Cubsrule : No, but a 20 minute wait at Starbucks (common at T-1 in the mornings) isn't really acceptable, and the security line issue in some terminals (not to
49 Goldenshield : Public Airports aren't built for the sole intent of having one airline serve it. By your logic, you might as well call ECP Southwest Field, since the
50 N1120A : A 20 minute wait at the Evil Green Mermaid is short for some busy ones. Also, Starbucks could pretty easily put in a mobile location without major co
51 HPRamper : MSP is perfectly located for the needs of the Minneapolis area and is not in danger of being overwhelmed. Once the light rail is extended (currently
52 N1120A : And ONT has shovel-ready plans for 2 more terminals. Remember, it wasn't that long ago that the "new" ONT was built.
53 boilerla : 1) It's not, that's the point. But at 6am there's not many options unless you want LaBrea Bakery. Contrast that to ORD, where in C alone I had a choi
54 cgnnrw : Newest airport with the dumbest name "Beaches International"??????????????
55 trent1000 : What's happening with suggestions/plans to build a new MCI??
56 Cubsrule : . . . but inordinately long for an airport location. No, but I can blame LAX for not accounting for the 405. You act as though O&D passengers don
57 Post contains links CitationJet : Although not a new airport, ICT is planning to get a new terminal, completely replacing the old one. The planned completion date is 2013. http://www.f
58 amccann : I hate to say this but... about time! For city of Wichita nickname being "The Air Capital of the World" the airport terminal is a terrible representa
59 N1120A : 1) Puck is open 2) La Brea Bakery is open 3) Starbucks is open 4) I even think the Baja Fresh is open Chicago-style "pizza" isn't really pizza, but t
60 dfwrevolution : I'm sorry but that is an awful idea. Aside from the massive capital costs in building a high speed rail, turning SAT into a perimeter restricted airp
61 ckfred : If a suitable area is ever found, Sun Valley, ID will get a new airport. The current airport, SUN, has to have a waiver just to get Q400s in with Hori
62 Cubsrule : I never said it was the worst, but it's well worse than average. Then why are you suggesting that they are unimportant? But MDW, ATL and a host of ot
63 Western727 : I agree with your perspective of MSP not being in danger of bursting at the seams. MAC and PMNW once proposed extending the G concourse to a point fa
64 HPRamper : 4/22 was only used by the 747 ops and whenever 17/35 was closed for whatever reason. Now, of course, the 744 is gone (temporarily at least) and the 7
65 Western727 : So why doesn't MAC consider closing 4/22? It seems illogical (and fiscally irresponsible) to keep it open and maintained with so little use.
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