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Continental Airlines LGW Operations  
User currently offlineJosephJarvis From UK - England, joined Apr 2011, 158 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 10 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7346 times:

Hi everyone,

Continental Airlines has now merged with United Airlines and become one airline. They will be missed. Its a good thing they kept the globe tail design though as it never gets boring.

I remember when Continental used to operate services to LGW years ago and I am particularly interested in their 777 routes from LGW. I have seen various photographs between 1999 and 2004 of Continental 777s at London Gatwick, sometimes seeing three 777s parked along side each other at Gatwick's South Terminal Main Pier.

I see two 777s, sometimes three 777s in some photographs at LGW between 1999 and 2004, and in other shots I see other Continental aircraft such as 767-400s and 767-200s.

My question is did they operate the same number of flights per day and were they all operated using Boeing 777s or did they use different aircraft as well?

Also, presumabably they had 3 777 services on some days, maybe more. Does anyone know how many 777 services they had on a typical day at London Gatwick and whether all their LGW services were operated using 777s or not? Also what time the aircraft arrived and departed at LGW, as it appears some of their aircraft were there for quite some time?

Wondered if anyone could help me with any of this please?

Thank you for your time.

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User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3263 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7288 times:

In 2005 they had four B777s, two IAH, two EWR, with CLE as a B757.

User currently offlineJosephJarvis From UK - England, joined Apr 2011, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 10 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 7243 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 1):
In 2005 they had four B777s, two IAH, two EWR, with CLE as a B757.

Thanks for the reply. Do you know any of the departure or arrival times of any of these flights?

Thanks.


User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3263 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6805 times:

Sure, I'll boot up the laptop later and add some colour.

User currently offlineklwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2047 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (2 years 10 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6553 times:

CO had a very long history at LGW. Before the 777, they operated many routes with the DC10.
And DEN-LGW was a DC10 for many, many, many years.


User currently offlinestaralliance85 From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 201 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 10 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6436 times:

For many years the DC10 was CO's main product. Then in 1999 they did a 777 and a DC10 combo to LGW. Right after 9/11, they retired the DC10 from that route.


brad Fitzpatrick
User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3281 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 10 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6406 times:

Quoting klwright69 (Reply 4):
And DEN-LGW was a DC10 for many, many, many years.

Ahhhh, I did this route twice on the way to LAX and once got upgraded to First from Business, that's when CO did international First. Remember they carved the meat at your seat at dinner. Also experienced a 767 from EWR into LGW.
Really good old days.   



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User currently offlineHBIHLtoEZE From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 281 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (2 years 10 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5689 times:


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I guess that CO inaugurated their LGW service from DEN - in the beginning of the 1980s with DC-10-30s (was not able to find any prove for that though)...

The pic above shows a People Express 747 next to a CO DC-10. I assume CO only flew to EWR after taking over People Express in 1987?

I always liked the DC-10s of Continental, and I have also liked their globe-livery a lot. DC-10s were the aicraft that were used in their massive European expansion in the late 90s,

here a pic from LGW from April 1996 (when there was still the dearly missed spectators' terrace)...



Continental Airlines DC-10-30; N14062@LGW;14.04.1996 by Aero Icarus, on Flickr



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User currently offlineddbonf From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (2 years 10 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5600 times:

Hi there,

As far as departure are concerned if I remember correctly:

CO35 LGW-IAH at 0935
CO5 LGW-IAH at 1200
CO19 LGW-EWR at 1115
CO29 LGW - EWR at 1315

The last may be a bit off time

CO67 LGW-CLE at 11 something!

Regards


User currently offlinePI767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (2 years 10 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5133 times:

Quoting HBIHLtoEZE (Reply 7):
I guess that CO inaugurated their LGW service from DEN - in the beginning of the 1980s with DC-10-30s (was not able to find any prove for that though)...

The pic above shows a People Express 747 next to a CO DC-10. I assume CO only flew to EWR after taking over People Express in 1987?

Continental's first service to Gatwick began in the April or May of 1985 with a single nonstop-roundtrip to Houston Intercontinental.

Continental's Newark service was, as you stated, a result of The People Express acquisition. People Express began the route on May 26, 1983 and it became a Continental route effective February 1, 1987.

The Denver route followed, beginning as a 4x weekly flight on June 14, 1987.


User currently offlineViscount630 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 10 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4956 times:
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Quoting HBIHLtoEZE (Reply 7):
I guess that CO inaugurated their LGW service from DEN - in the beginning of the 1980s with DC-10-30s (was not able to find any prove for that though)...

The original DEN-LGW was a Western DC-10 service - it didn't last very long. CO became a LGW operator when they took over PeoplExpress and their EWR route. They built up the LGW operation from there, adding other CO cities.



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User currently offlinemusang From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 864 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (2 years 10 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4554 times:

No mention of Continental 747s yet, from after the PEx take-over to the mid '90s IIRC. All EWR, I seem to recall.

Regards - musang


User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2415 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (2 years 10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4279 times:

CO @ LGW June 1987

DEN-LGW
CO34 lv 1915 arr 1105+1d D10 X136
LGW-DEN
CO35 lv 1400 arr 1630 D10 X247

IAH-LGW
CO4 lv 1850 arr 0950+1d D10
LGW-IAH
CO5 lv 1145 arr 1555 D10

EWR-LGW
CO28 lv 1930 arr 0715+1d 747
LGW-EWR
CO25 lv 1400 arr 1640 747

MIA-LGW
CO30 lv 1945 arr 0915+1d D10
LGW-MIA
CO31 lv 1115 arr 1515 D10

[Edited 2011-12-03 14:38:57]

User currently offlineTCASAlert From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (2 years 10 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4163 times:

I remember these times very well (well I should do as it was only a few years ago  ), the only American carriers at LHR were UA and AA. To get your fix of DL, US, CO and NW you had to head down to LGW. For many years the airlines campaigned to get Bermuda II removed so that the other carriers could fly from LHR. This also meant that certain destinations in the US could only be served from LGW.

Openskies finally put an end to that mess a few years ago, and finally all airlines can operate with full competition from LHR.


User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3263 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 10 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3619 times:

OKAY, the 2005 view

CO18 0640 Newark B777
CO34 0655 Houston B777
CO66 0750 Cleveland B757
CO28 0830 Newark B777
CO4 0955 Houston B777
CO104 1000 Newark B757

CO35 0930 Houston B777
CO19 1030 Newark B777
CO67 1155 Cleveland B757
CO5 1200 Houston B777
CO105 1200 Newark B757
CO29 1230 Newark B777

This was the view that lasted until the move to LHR, when LGW had the following on summer 2008

CO114 0655 Newark B757
CO34 0745 Houston B764
CO116 0840 Newark B757

CO35 0930 Houston B764
CO115 1030 Newark B757
CO117 1130 Newark B757

The station was closed at the end of the season.


User currently offlineJosephJarvis From UK - England, joined Apr 2011, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 10 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3560 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 14):

Thanks for the info, thats excellent. That's quite a long time for Continental Airlines to keep some of their aircraft on the ground at LGW. It can't of been that cheap for them to do this on a daily basis?

Regards,


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16878 posts, RR: 51
Reply 16, posted (2 years 10 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3489 times:

CO took over the MIA-LGW route from Eastern around '87. EA acquired some DC-10s from AZ to launch MIA-LGW and MIA-MAD, they launched LGW but not MAD. Later when they transferred the route to CO Eastern used those DC-10s to first operate MIA-EZE-SCL and later MIA-GIG-EZE.

CO sold the MIA-London authorities to AA around the time they purchased EA's Latin America operations.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20677 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (2 years 10 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 3447 times:

Quoting CODC10 (Reply 12):
CO @ LGW June 1987

DEN-LGW
CO34 lv 1915 arr 1105+1d D10 X136
LGW-DEN
CO35 lv 1400 arr 1630 D10 X247

A few bits of trivia. CO 34/35 was part of one of the first modern-day codeshares between airlines of different countries. By the time I started flying this route in 1988, CO35 originated in AMS as a flight on a regularly scheduled Transavia 737-200, complete with a row of Business Class configured 2x2, and offered a complete hot meal in J, sandwiches in a lunch bag in Y. Same with CO34, it terminated in AMS on the turnaround of the codeshared Transavia flight.

When the DC-10 continued to LAX or HNL from DEN, CO would give out new boarding passes in the customs area when rechecking bags. The cardstock for LGW-DEN said Continental International, while the BPs at DEN said Continental Micronesia.

Quoting JosephJarvis (Reply 15):
It can't of been that cheap for them to do this on a daily basis?

As was pointed out in the other thread, the cost to park a plane at a gate for a few hours is highly exaggerated on a.net. Some airports even include a set number of hours of parking in with the landing fee.



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User currently offline28L28L From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 10 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3211 times:

Was the DEN-HNL portion of CO35 started at the same time that the LGW-DEN portion started (June of 1987) or was it started later?
Cheers.


User currently offlineCOIAHLGW From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3171 times:

Who uses the check-in area at LGW South Terminal where CO used to be - the one where you had to take a ramp going to a lower level? Also, did anybody take over the PC that was at LGW South?


Last aircraft flown, N78008, EI-CSR, EI-DHP, N77014, N78008, EI-CSH, N78002, N68155, N77012, N78017, N19117, N38403
User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3263 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 10 months 20 hours ago) and read 3040 times:

Air Transat and Aer Lingus last time I was through in October.

User currently offlineJosephJarvis From UK - England, joined Apr 2011, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 9 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2683 times:

What routes would they have operated the 767-200 and 767-400 on?

User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3263 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 9 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 2663 times:

Quoting JosephJarvis (Reply 21):
What routes would they have operated the 767-200 and 767-400 on?

I have seen the B762 on LGW-EWR and the B764 on LGW-IAH.


User currently offlineJosephJarvis From UK - England, joined Apr 2011, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 9 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2466 times:

It seems that Newark was served by Continental from Gatwick twice daily with both services using 777s, but also a 777 and a 767-200 or 767-400. It seems the morning Newark service was always operated by a 777, but the afternoon service was operated by a 777 or a 767. I have been taking a look through the LGW-LHR Archive website and many flight logs between 1999 and 2004 show that the afternoon CO19 LGW-EWR service using a 777 departed significantly earlier than when it was operated by a 767. The logs show the 777 operating the route always departed around 13:15-13:30pm, whereas the logs show the 767 departed around 15:00-15:30pm, sometimes even as late as 16:15! I have seen various photos of Continental 767-200s and 767-400s parked at a remote stand at Gatwick but never a 777. Also other photos indicate the 767 left quite late in the day as it is shown being towed onto stand at the South Terminal when most other North American traffic had departed.

Can anyone help me out on this please?

Regards,


User currently offlineDogsOfWar From Ireland, joined Dec 2011, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2305 times:

Quoting JosephJarvis (Thread starter):

Continental Airlines has now merged with United Airlines and become one airline. They will be missed. Its a good thing they kept the globe tail design though as it never gets boring.


You must not see it alot, it gets down right lame! wish they would have come up with a new paint scheme when the two merged. I hear people call the globe on the tail, the Death Star! or a sewer grate.


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