Fallingeese From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 2097 posts, RR: 20 Reply 3, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 676 times:
The canadian system of aviation doesn't really operate with a hub-and-spoke system. They are supposedly to be based in Vancouver. The word is they will compete with Westjet in the "western triangle" between Calgary, Vancouver, and Edmonton. I also think that it will have a small presence in the east probably from Toronto. If they are going to make money they will have to have transcon flights, suchs as YVR-YYZ in it's own niche. Long live westjet.
Slawko From Canada, joined May 1999, 3799 posts, RR: 10 Reply 6, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 632 times:
I have heard that the plane is to squeeze westjet from either end. There will be a crew/aircraft base in Toronto and Vancouver, and they will try to take westjet on, on their money making routes.
** Please stop using the Hub referance, there is no airline that uses a hub and spoke system in Canada, and if you don;t know what the word means don;t use it.
"Clive Beddoe says he favours competition, but his actions do not support that idea." Robert Milton - CEO Air Canada
Bush From Canada, joined May 1999, 153 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 623 times:
Not sure if this was already posted, but there was an article in the National Post about a numbered company that has applied to register the names 'Jetz Airdirect' and 'Jetz DirectAir', in addition, a stylized logo of the word 'Hello' for promotional material. The article all but stated that it was Air Canada's discount carrier. It also stated that since the logo and name have become prematurely public they might be abandoned. Lets hope they are - that name is horrendous.
AF777 From Canada, joined Jun 1999, 223 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 604 times:
I highly doubt that the YYZ-YUL route will be used on the new lowfare carrier due to the hight yields from Rapidair. What do you guys mean that the hub and spoke system is not in use in Canada? AC uses it. Every single flight in the AC system either originates or arrives from either YVR, YYC, YEG, YWG, YYZ, YOW, YUL, YHZ, and even YYT. At these "hubs" passengers connect from AC to AC flights, or from AC to AC Regional flights. Thus, the spokes. If toronto is not a hub and spoke airport then what is? Yes, there are many point to point flights within the system, but they are between these nine cities and others.
C-fyow From Canada, joined Feb 2000, 116 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 602 times:
Slawko.....!!!
I suggest you speak someday to anyone who has worked in the TCU at Ottawa, Montreal, or Toronto,
about Hub and Spoke.
I PERSONALLY know of three people, one who works
at YOW in the tower, one who is a controlller below
ground at Pearson, currently handling traffic from YYZ
into Ottawa, and a third who JUST HAPPENS to be a very close relative of mine, who IMPLEMENTED several
proceedures, for flights in and out of the Ottawa airspace, and so happened to have been Unit Chief at
Ottawa for over 30 years.
I THINK you will be surprised at what they say!!!
Until you have worked in an ATC facility, and fully
understand what HUB and Spoke is, then don't make
baseless opinions without basis of fact..PERIOD!!!!
Yow From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 567 times:
A hub is an airport where an airline has a bunch of flights arrive in a bank within a half-hour or so of one another and then people make connections in that city and go on to another city. The spoke is the destination airport, which usually only has flights to the hub airport by that particular airline.
Here in Canada YYZ and YVR are the big hubs for Air Canada, while YUL, YYC and YHZ are secondary hubs. YOW, YWG, YYT, YEG, YQT and YXE are secondary connecting points or third tier hubs. These airports handle a fair amount of connecting traffic but do not have large banks of flights operating to them in order to be considered a real hub.
BO__einG From Canada, joined Apr 2000, 2759 posts, RR: 20 Reply 13, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 556 times:
Heres some fine examples of Hubs.
ATLANTA HARTSFIELD!
London Heathrow,
JFK, Denver , Cincincincinati!
AIr Canada Lite, wonder what the livery will be,
Air Canada colours but in lighter tones of red and forest green! A Lighter airplane, a lighter wheel! BAWK! Gimme a break, I wont even take a pcicture of it if it succeds.. and stay out of WEstJets Turf,,!!I love the green N Blue!
They should rename the discount airline into
BUD LIGHT!! HAAAAA!
Bo
Oh and today I was at the airport with my friend and we were the first spotters to see WestJets delivery of its 3rd 700 plane.. C-FKWS>. Boy was it magnificent!! INDEED!
Expanding my global domination one spotter at a time..
Mcdougald From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 14, posted (11 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 540 times:
Here is the 'hello' logo that Bush was referring to. As mentioned in the 'What is Air Canada Tango?' thread, the logo and 'Jetz' name is registered to 3673472 Canada, Inc. A search of the Industry Canada Strategis database shows Air Canada VP Calin Rovinescu as its director.