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MYR Offering Incentives For DFW/MSP/IND Service  
User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3722 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2493 times:

http://www.thesunnews.com/2011/12/03...rtle-beach-airport-willing-to.html

DFW was briefly served on a seasonal basis by AA (Eagle), but I think NK would be a natural fit with their DFW buildup. And MSP could easily be served by DL, which already serves MYR through ATL, DTW, and LGA (seasonal).

As for IND: Unlike MSP and DFW, IND isn't a hub for any airline. This is complicated by the fact that the largest LCC by far at IND (WN/FL) doesn't serve MYR (FL served MYR prior to 2006). Unless NK starts IND (and that's a big if with IND's high costs) or Direct Air decides to try IND a la Branson AirExpress (also unlikely with their issues), I don't see IND-MYR service in the near future. And for FWA (which suffers heavy leakage to IND as-is) and G4 (which operates MYR seasonally from FWA), this might be a good thing.


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User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1992 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2145 times:

The biggest subsidy chaser out there right now has it's HQ in IND. I could see F9 chasing this, maybe an E190 on a DEN-IND-MYR-IND-DEN routing.

Of course there is always G4 as well.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2129 times:

DL again out of IND wouldn't be too far fetched. Very easy to route a connection carrier CR7/175 through IND to work a direct MYR and back. From MSP, EV may actually be a better fit. A/C can be funded through ATL or DTW into MYR then pick up an MSP flight. DL at current is very creative with a/c flow through Minneapolis. On of the 88 arrivals from Atlanta usually turns to LGA and the other to BOS.


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User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 7 months 4 weeks ago) and read 2043 times:

Actually, I could see SY flying a seasonal MSP-MYR before I see DL doing anything. I doubt DL is going dump a high-CASM CR9 or E75 into such a low yield market.

User currently offlinecmhsrq From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 990 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1931 times:

The problem is MYR is a leisure market, and airlines just don't make money on leisure fares. So I don't see any of those happening as long as oil is above $40 a barrel.


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User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25009 posts, RR: 85
Reply 5, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1763 times:
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Quoting LV (Reply 1):
The biggest subsidy chaser out there right now has it's HQ in IND. I could see F9 chasing this, maybe an E190 on a DEN-IND-MYR-IND-DEN routing.

I'd quite like to see Frontier do that. I'd like to see the airline at MYR and I've long wondered if it will add anything at IND.

As to the incentives, anything that helps off-set the present price of fuel (and the gloppy economy) is okay by me. A lot of airports are offering these days, and a lot of airlines are taking.

TPA lost Virgin America to DFW - which offered more than ten times more:

http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/airlines/article1175998.ece

"Virgin America agreed to fly to Dallas from Los Angeles and San Francisco last summer, after receiving a waiver of airport fees for a year and $375,000 in marketing money. Virgin turned down a pitch from Tampa International for a San Francisco-Tampa flight. Airport officials had only $25,000 in advertising assistance to offer.

DFW also recently used a $3.1 million package to entice Australian carrier Qantas to fly from Sydney to Dallas, instead of to San Francisco."


So TPA has upped the ante:

"Tampa International is about to enter a fiercely competitive arena, and it's late to the fight"

mariner



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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3722 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1727 times:

Quoting LV (Reply 1):
Of course there is always G4 as well.

DFW, IND, and MSP are not Allegiant's kind of markets. G4 does do some charter service at IND (and probably from DFW and MSP as well), but zero scheduled service. And in the case of IND, I don't think G4 would want to cannibalize their (seasonal) FWA-MYR service. You would be surprised to see the amount of FWA-MYR pax that come from IND's catchment area.

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 3):

Actually, I could see SY flying a seasonal MSP-MYR before I see DL doing anything.

I could see SY giving MSP-MYR a try as well.

Quoting mariner (Reply 5):
I'd quite like to see Frontier do that. I'd like to see the airline at MYR and I've long wondered if it will add anything at IND.

Even though WN is now #1 at IND if you factor FL in, neither serves MYR. It could work for F9, as they are trying to add some more P2P routes. And unlike IND-Florida/LAS/PHX, F9 wouldn't have to face the mighty WN if they started MYR.



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User currently offlinemariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25009 posts, RR: 85
Reply 7, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1713 times:
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Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 6):
And unlike IND-Florida/LAS/PHX, F9 wouldn't have to face the mighty WN if they started MYR.

The mighty Southwest doesn't seem to be so much a factor Frontier these days, at least at MCI. It's added three routes common to Southwest in the last few months - MCI-LAS, MCI-MCO and now MCI-TPA.

But I agree with your point - IF (and it's only if) Frontier does want to add anything at IND, then MYR might be a good way to go.

mariner



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User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1992 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 1657 times:

By the way, anyone else notice in the article one of the pictures in it says "an NWA Northwest Airlines flight lands" and it's an NK aircraft?

User currently offlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1911 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1464 times:

I personally would love to see SY step in on MSP-MYR. I'd most certainly take that flight. And honestly it's not that far-fetched to happen. This is just the type of market SY caters too. DL flying it would be a nice consolation though.

User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 1992 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 7 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 6):
DFW, IND, and MSP are not Allegiant's kind of markets. G4 does do some charter service at IND (and probably from DFW and MSP as well), but zero scheduled service.

Yeah, neither was Hawaii but look what is happening now. One thing I've learned about this industry is that for the right circumstances the kind of "markets" the planes head too can change. Throw in the subsidy from MYR, and the fact that IND needs something to celebrate with that pretty new terminal and I think G4 might be able to work a deal. Addtionally I think G4 could also start IND-PGD and have some success... I think WN may yank the competeing routes (IND-RSW/SRQ) despite FL's domination on them.


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