OLBA From Lebanon, joined Jun 2011, 79 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 9047 times:
Last night i was on a UA flight from SFO to LAX and realized an untitled 747 at the United maintenance. I think it had United colors. Can anyone provide me more info on this aircraft? it is supposed to be scrapped?
NorthstarBoy From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1979 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 8258 times:
Quoting SEA (Reply 4): Would this 744 have had the new interior with IFE in Y?
I think all the 744s in service now have IPTE. As for PTVs in Y, if that's what you mean, I think putting PTVs in Y on the 744s would have required all new seats and with the 787s and 350s coming on line in the next 5 years to replace the 744s, PMUA wasn't willing to make that kind of investment in the comfort of their lowest yielding passengers. Who knows, maybe now that CO has taken over and LH is putting PTVs in Y on their 744s, we'll see a change. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
I do have to wonder though, when an airline puts in a proprietary hard product, like IPTE, on a leased airplane, then returns the plane to the lessor, do they put back the previous generation first and business class seats? or just fill in the empty spaces with coach seats? I can't imagine UA would not tear out the IPTE seats before they hand it over, as those are the property of United, not the lessor, I would think.
Feel free to correct me.
Yes, I'd like to see airbus go under so Boeing can have their customers!
JAAlbert From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1804 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5914 times:
Has United replaced these returned 744s with other aircraft or is it reducing the number of aircraft it operates? Has anyone picked up the lease for these 744s? They must be pretty well maintained. How many 744s are parked these days without a home?
Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 6): I can't imagine UA would not tear out the IPTE seats before they hand it over, as those are the property of United, not the lessor, I would think.
So where does UAL store unused business class seats?? That must be an interesting warehouse to wander through!
B6A322 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 293 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3751 times:
Quoting NorthstarBoy (Reply 6): and LH is putting PTVs in Y on their 744s, we'll see a change. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Yes, but keep in mind that LH is only going to be installing the PTVs in Y on the 16 (?? 16 sounds right) 744's that will be staying in the fleet. The others are not being refitted and will be replaced by 748's which will have the PTVs.
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