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Baldwin Thrown Off AA Flight In LAX  
User currently offlinewjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5325 posts, RR: 23
Posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 23137 times:

Looks like airlines are finally getting tough with people who don't listen when asked nicely to do what the rest of us do as a matter of mere manners:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/nationa...f_flight_at_ikgro0tlAWEveH4IMoa4YK

Although it doesn't say it in the linked article, the NY Post "Breaking" scrolling headline said that it was for refusing to turn off a cell phone.

[Edited 2011-12-06 14:13:22]

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User currently offlineSEA From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 23146 times:

Good example for those who refuse to put their phones away.

OTOH, I've been on a flight with Alec Baldwin (LAX-ASE) in OO's first class and he was a gentleman to the flight attendants. Always said "please" and "thank you" to any requests. I guess we all have bad days.


User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21580 posts, RR: 59
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 22920 times:

Contrarian view here.

The regulation to turn off all electronic devices and sit still like kindergartners as soon as the cabin door is closed, even if you are held at the gate without moving for an hour, is stupidity.

It is not an issue of safety, but of poorly thought rule wording. After all, the same rule doesn't apply after landing and while taxiing after landing, only before takeoff. Would be interesting to find out who was the party advocating the timing of this rule as it was created/commented/approved, whether it was the FAA or the airlines. Even if it's a matter of interference with navigation, while at the gate, there is no navigation, no movement, etc.

The rule should be amended to that no aircraft may PUSH BACK from the gate until all electronic devices are turned off. That accounts for holds and delays everyone has experienced. Alternately the PIC should have discretion to announce a delay/hold and allow pax to use cell phones and computers but be prepared to stow them immediately when he/she says so.

But the way it is currently written, it's one more degrading rule that treats customers like children/criminals in an already stressful situation.



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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5533 posts, RR: 13
Reply 3, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 22873 times:

I guess Baldwin was pisse there was no hottie leggy Asian woman giving him a mani. Is this the Baldwin in those Credit Card commercials?


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User currently offlinecopter808 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1132 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 22745 times:

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 2):
It is not an issue of safety, but of poorly thought rule wording. After all, the same rule doesn't apply after landing and while taxiing after landing, only before takeoff.

Why do we always have thes discussions on whether it's a "safety issue" or whether it makes sense? " It makes no difference. He failed to follow the crew's order. He was wrong!!

And on some airlines, the use of phones is prohibited whenever the passenger is on the aircraft--at the gate, taxi, flight, landing, and taxi.


User currently offlineBlueJuice From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 254 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 22741 times:

Several people I know have worked with Alec Baldwin. To put it diplomatically, he is difficult and self entitled. Their description of him are significantly less family friendly. Kudos to the FAs.

User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5533 posts, RR: 13
Reply 6, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 22685 times:

Quoting BlueJuice (Reply 5):
Several people I know have worked with Alec Baldwin. To put it diplomatically, he is difficult and self entitled. Their description of him are significantly less family friendly. Kudos to the FAs.

  

He can go to rehab and say the crew took advantage of his sex, drug, liquor or whatever addiction of the day is popular.



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User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21580 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 22642 times:

Quoting copter808 (Reply 4):
Why do we always have thes discussions on whether it's a "safety issue" or whether it makes sense? " It makes no difference. He failed to follow the crew's order. He was wrong!!

Where did I ever say he was right? Tell me...

I was pointing out the stupidity of the rule. His actions were stupid as well. They aren't mutually exclusive...



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User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21580 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 22614 times:

Quoting copter808 (Reply 4):
And on some airlines, the use of phones is prohibited whenever the passenger is on the aircraft--at the gate, taxi, flight, landing, and taxi.

Which airlines? Not any in the USA I've ever been on...



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 9, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 22615 times:

Quoting copter808 (Reply 4):
Why do we always have thes discussions on whether it's a "safety issue" or whether it makes sense? " It makes no difference. He failed to follow the crew's order. He was wrong!!

Yeah, as usual handing a blank check to the crew to do whatever they want.

Yes, he should have done what he was told. That doesn't mean what he was told was right.

On United, when you have even a tarmac delay they quickly announce please use your cell phones. So this was, as is often the case, an FA who no doubt wanted to feel better than someone famous, which I have seen leaving LA on many occasions.

I'm extra grumpy because of a series of flights last night with US East employees both on ground and in air that were practically downright rude to every single passenger on board for no reason and without provocation. There was one exception, and she was great.


NS


User currently offlineLONGisland89 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 22480 times:

Quoting BlueJuice (Reply 5):
Several people I know have worked with Alec Baldwin. To put it diplomatically, he is difficult and self entitled.

As are most Long Islanders.   


User currently offlineUSAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1848 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 22405 times:

It's ok...he's played a pilot before.

User currently offlineslvrblt From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 160 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 22187 times:

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 2):
The regulation to turn off all electronic devices and sit still like kindergartners as soon as the cabin door is closed, even if you are held at the gate without moving for an hour, is stupidity.

It's a good point; and is asinine when you're on the ground or still at a gate. But I have seen and heard some experts on avionics and electronics discussion that have say it IS possible for SOME types of personal electronic devices to throw off the navigation systems of aircraft. I don't really want to be on a plane on an ILS CAT3 approach that thinks it's landing on an airport runway and is in fact landing itself on a freeway a few hundred yards away from the airport. However unlikely it may be.

And let's face it, the instant you touch down, part of the canned arrival flight attendant announcements always say, ''it is now safe to use personal electronic devices.''



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User currently offlinecopter808 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1132 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 22184 times:

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 7):
Where did I ever say he was right? Tell me...

I didn't say YOU said he was right. I just said HE was wrong!

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 7):
I was pointing out the stupidity of the rule. His actions were stupid as well. They aren't mutually exclusive...

The "rule" was that he failed to obey the flight crew. That sounds like a pretty good rule to me. One which needs no changes! The use of the phone was the reason the flight crew issued the order to stop. The time to debate whether or not the command, rule, whatever was proper is after the flight, not during the flight. The only exceptions would be something that would obviously place property or lives in jeapordy. No one will be harmed by shutting off the darned phone!


User currently offlinedavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 22126 times:

I say well done AA. FWIW, I've had my flights delayed because people refused to get of the phone. Drives me crazy.

That said, in my experience, if it is known that the push back delay will be lengthy, I've often heard a crew tell people it is OK to use electronics.

Dave



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User currently offlinecopter808 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1132 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 22054 times:

Quoting ikramerica (Reply 8):
Which airlines? Not any in the USA I've ever been on...

I don't recall, it may well have been in Asia though. I recall Philippine airlines would not let me make a call while we were at the gate with the door open.

I quite agree that a rule prohibiting use of cell phones on the ground (gate,taxi, and taxi again) may not be a safety issue, but that decision is not mine to make.


User currently offlinecopter808 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1132 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 21986 times:

Quoting gigneil (Reply 9):
Yeah, as usual handing a blank check to the crew to do whatever they want.

No, it is not. They will have to justify their actions after the fact. Arguing their command when issued is foolish and may be unsafe!!

Quoting gigneil (Reply 9):
Yes, he should have done what he was told.

Then we agree! I'm not at issue about the use of the cell phone. The issue is failure to comply with the flight crew's request.


User currently offlinesevenfeet From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 21873 times:

We can all debate the sensibility of the rule. But for now, it is an FAA rule and it's the job of the F/As to enforce it. They can be disciplined if they don't enforce it. And while I'm on the subject, it burns me to no end that a lot of the violations of the electronic device policy sit up front. As a Delta Diamond flyer, I see it all the time. Yes, we're the best customers but often we're the same self-entitled class that feels we can bend or even flaunt the rules about this. Usually if the F/As know someone is using one on the tarmac, they try to enforce the policy by re-announcing the issue on the P/A system. If they see it during the safety checks, they will politely enforce the policy.

Even after that, some people can still think the rules don't apply to them.


User currently offlinefxramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 7359 posts, RR: 85
Reply 18, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 21746 times:
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Another glorified FA that is upset about her 14 hr day and reduced benefits and pension. Taking out frustrations on passengers that buy full fare tickets multiple times a month is a stupid thing to do. Glad an AA manager got involved at LAX and promptly booked Baldwin on the next flight.

[Edited 2011-12-06 16:26:57]

User currently offlinethreepoint From Canada, joined Oct 2005, 2185 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 21682 times:

Sad really, when the bulk of the news story consisted of what other people had to tweet about. Journalism is indeed almost dead.


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User currently offlineHALFA From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 1367 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 21622 times:

Quoting fxramper (Reply 19):
Another glorified FA that is upset about her 14 hr day and reduced benefits and pension. Taking out frustrations on passengers that buy full fare tickets multiple times a month is a stupid thing to do. Glad an an AA manager got involved at LAX and promptly booked Baldwin on the next flight.

Wow! Were we reading the same article? You were able to gain so much more information about this incident from the NY Post article linked by the OP? Amazing! I have read and re-read the article and no where does it state the gender of the flight attendant involved, nor does it state the flight attendant involved was working a 14 hour day. Nor does it state that the flight attendant involved was taking out frustrations on passengers, perhaps because the flight attendant involved was merely doing what is required by federal law and that is making sure that electronic devices are turned off prior to gate departure? You were even able to surmise that an AA manager promptly helped Mr. Baldwin book the next flight to JFK. I guess I missed that one too. Again, just amazing!

HALFA



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User currently offlinejetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7429 posts, RR: 50
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 21523 times:
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User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4593 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 21508 times:

Quoting fxramper (Reply 18):
Glad an an AA manager got involved at LAX and promptly booked Baldwin on the next flight.

They should have booked him in coach.  


User currently offlinedavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 21198 times:

I do like the fact that BA has banned a couple of celebrities for failing to follow safety rules. It shows they are even handed in their approach.


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User currently offlineUnited727 From United States of America, joined Nov 2010, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 20714 times:

Quoting threepoint (Reply 20):
Sad really, when the bulk of the news story consisted of what other people had to tweet about. Journalism is indeed almost dead.

I guess the F/A's missed the fact that other phones were apparently on as well. Thus the "other Tweets" that this individual commented on. How were these other tweets made, if ALL electronic devices were off????         

Did I miss something in the article as to how others got away sending messages? Was Mr. Baldwin singled out?



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25 gigneil : Sure. He didn't comply. That doesn't make the FA right, and you know it. Someone has to stand up to FA's power tripping. Now he's made it clear he's
26 United727 : What? Where's that written in this article?
27 gigneil : The world exists outside this website and this thread. Start with his Twitter. NS
28 Post contains images HALFA : I have not seen other accounts of this incident so I only have the NY Post link provided by the OP to reference, but if the gate delay was coming to
29 Andz : It does here. "Cellular phones must remain switched off until we have opened the aircraft door" I am sure that many people get caught out by the inco
30 rjm777ual : As if AA isn't in enough trouble already...is he planning to sue? Because if he did, that would be pointless. he knew the rules, and should have just
31 gigneil : I totally concur with that as an analysis. Other random accounts I've heard indicated that it was mid delay. If the gate delay was over and it was ti
32 jc2354 : Life would be so much simpler if, as part of the taxi checklist, they could just flip a switch to disable cell phone signals.
33 Post contains images zippyjet : Can you hear me? Can you hear me now?"
34 BCEaglesCO757 : Just read his tweets about the flight on yahoo. Man....what an pompus A$$. And people wonder why the Jetblue FA damn near wanted to kill someone,hahah
35 nethkt : Oh, not the youngest Baldwin on Gossip Girl? I really like him. Let him talk on the phone. It doesn't make any difference to flight safety!
36 mirrodie : Yep! Great question!!! Saw his twittered messages. Likening the FAs to 1950s gym teachers.......
37 mogandoCI : If AA treat celebrities (the ones who pay full fare F) like this ... I just can't imagine how the treat regular customers He's only using a phone to p
38 wjcandee : Well... The quoted tweets were to the effect that "Alec Baldwin just got thrown off the plane." If that's the case (past tense), then presumably the
39 Post contains images lightsaber : Ok. But it is the rule and the crew must enforce the rule. I dislike the rule, but I've complied. I must have been asked a half dozen times to turn o
40 milesrich : The gloried Flight Attendant quote is probably to most accurate. If removing him from the flight was such a great idea, American would have told him
41 Post contains images TWA772LR : I guess we wanted to reenact the commercial he recently did! But seriously, he isn't above anyone and should follow the rules we all do. Thanks to the
42 DashTrash : Oughta be riding on Netjets anyway......
43 Ldriver : The differing opinions I've read here all make a certain amount of sense given the assumptions we don't know about. If departure was imminent, and the
44 ozark1 : I cannot locate Flight 4 as having returned to the gate anytime this week, so perhaps the story is a bit overblown (imagine that!).
45 Post contains images zippyjet : Let me accompany that lithe young leggy Asian hottie. I won't even demand that mani/pedi!
46 boilerla : Not excusing Alec Baldwin, but… and then... um.....yeah. The rule is rather arbitrary, and many passengers (not just celebrities) ignore it. My last
47 CRFLY : Why is it always AA on the news? WHY IS IT ALWAYS AMERICAN AIRLINES??? Is it the way the crew approaches the passengers, as they were in a concentrati
48 jetjack74 : Cus it's their time. Years ago, It was Northwest, United, Delta. American is the new whipping-boy. Someday, it will be Southwest and jetBlue's turn
49 mah4546 : He'll take his business to United the same day NBC switches their business to United. In other words, he's back on AA for his next flight.
50 threepoint : You're assuming the tweets were sent from inside the airplane. They may have been typed after landing or when the door opened to let Baldwin out.
51 Post contains links akelley728 : It's now being reported this was an iPad, not a phone, that Baldwin refused to turn off: http://wonderwall.msn.com/tv/alec-ba...rican-airlines-plane-1
52 nclmedic : To be fair to Alec, I'm a Twitter follower, and from his side of the story, he was playing Words with Friends while the aircraft was stationary with t
53 nclmedic : ok now I've read the article. Not exactly the most mature behaviour. Sounds like he probably got what was coming to him, although he did complain that
54 planereality : I have had good days, bad days and going half mad days, but have never thought that the rules don't apply to me, as many of the Hollywood elitists do.
55 Post contains images soon7x7 : I grew up with the guy and this behavior would be typical of him...Nothing new here...Surprised it took so long as he flies Bi-Coastal a lot. I actual
56 bond007 : Yes, they do have that discretion, and do that often at congested airports. I guess you don't fly that much. Really?? The only time passengers get tr
57 ozark1 : I REALLY don't appreciate your assumptions here! You are highly offensive to all hard working airline employees who enjoy what they do and are subjec
58 yyz717 : Didn't AB threaten to leave the US after GWB was re-elected in 2004? Well that didn''t happen. He'll keep flying AA.....
59 wjcandee : Next day, and more details are out. The current version of the story (still at the same link in the OP, just now updated) includes the following facts
60 Grid : I have worked with him many times and I always found him kind, easy going, generous in his compliments and time, and a supportive colleague. Now that
61 Post contains links CALTECH : Now for the rest of the story,...... Glad to see the Captain made the right decision,.... Alec Baldwin Tossed by American Airlines Captain http://www.
62 ckfred : First, don't they usually close the cabin door, when they're ready to push back? I've never been sitting on a plane parked at the gate with the door
63 bond007 : Actually his story doesn't contradict anything the FA or pax said. In fact his 'official statement' said that something like Alec liked playing the g
64 wjcandee : No. I generally find a guy who was right there next to him, who has no dog in the hunt, to be more credible than anything that comes from a Hollywood
65 ikramerica : if he went into the John and had a breakdown why did aa immediately rebook him? I'd want to make him wait to work the booze/drugs out of his system fi
66 bond007 : Not sure about the seatbelt sign actually being turned off, but many times I've been stuck on a taxiway at PHL for an extended time waiting to be rel
67 pnd100 : This was posted by AA on Facebook: "American Airlines Since an extremely vocal customer has publicly identified himself as being removed from an Ameri
68 Grid : Good point. Even if he did not have drugs or booze in his system, We don't know that. For all we know, the airline gave that guy a nice fat voucher t
69 ContnlEliteCMH : It seems we are following your advice by debating the rule while not sitting on an active flight disobeying the instructions of a flight crew. More d
70 Post contains links AAR90 : There are always two sides to every story. From AA Facebook/Wall American Airlines Since an extremely vocal customer has publicly identified himself a
71 Highflier92660 : Perhaps this thread can be linked to the one about American's bankruptcy filing and the worth of keeping that small Boeing 767-200 wide-body fleet on
72 ikramerica : Now read that and compare it to the other facts involved. Basically, AA is retrenching behind the "door closed means we are departing now and all thi
73 aacun : Im appalled at the fact that as human beings, we can get so uptight about some minor issue that actually took place with a high profile person on a fl
74 Gunsontheroof : Huh...a hugely negative article about Alec Baldwin in the New York Post...who would have thought? Bad news for American. This will be heavily panned o
75 ikramerica : True. Wonder if the pilot was informed it was Sir Alec Baldwin before he ordered the removal, or only found out after the decision was made (and then
76 bond007 : It did??? Really, the guy was asked 5 times to turn his phone off ... refused, went to the bathroom with seatbelt sign on, and banged on wall .... Th
77 ripcordd : CRYFLY your comments are so far out of line
78 GoBoeing : I like how you made that entire thing up. Well, you do show your vocation as a writer after all.
79 wjcandee : (vis. the tweet about retired catholic school gym teachers). It is remarkable that Baldwin now seems to want to turn it up by basically saying that Am
80 richierich : Baldwin appears on 30Rock, he doesn't write the material for it. SNL might be a more appropriate vehicle in which to mock Baldwin and AA. It's a good
81 Post contains images ikramerica : I'm just piecing together the events from the various accounts into something plausible. Kindergarten teacher F/A meets entitled Hollywood arsehool.
82 Post contains links davescj : Interestingly AA has published a bit of their view on their FB page. An except can be found on the USAToday webpage here: http://travel.usatoday.com/f
83 Caspian27 : That's always a solid argument if the FAA sees you breaking a reg or not enforcing a reg..."Everyone does it." Flight crews don't make the rules, but
84 cjuniel74 : I am trying to understand the mindset of some of the people who replied in this thread. Attacking the F/A and the airline when this man CLEARLY violat
85 topgun3 : Based on what I know about electronics, aircraft and RF interference, I don't see why we have these stupid "no electronics" rules on aircraft during t
86 Ldriver : It may well be an overblown problem, but there are numerous anecdotal reports from pilots that were later investigated, which seems to me pretty over
87 ikramerica : Yes, I agree that there is some interference possible, but topgun3 is right in asking if the interference is dangerous? Danger indicates more than si
88 mogandoCI : It's not so much about this incident going public, but how AA just kept feeding it by ranting on Facebook (the worst type of PR is to rant against a
89 Post contains images crAAzy : Well, if I was sitting next around him at the time I would have pulled out my iPhone and started video taping the whole thing. That would have settled
90 PI767 : That was my FIRST thought. A man who screamed at his 11-year-old daughter, including calling her a "thoughtless little pig".... One can only imagine
91 ozark1 : [ I could not DISAGREE more! It's about time an airline fought back against this kind of behavior. AA has dealt with EVERYTHING behind the scenes (i.e
92 davescj : As Lorrie Morgan sings "Honey, you can have him, I don't want him anymore." (song: Good as I was to you.) I would not be surprised that AA puts him o
93 Maverick623 : I'm sorry, but I had to stop quoting there. If I read anymore drivel from people that weren't there, any more useless name calling, pompous, holier-t
94 zippyjet : More accounts from other passengers on that flight said AB was snookered/intoxicated.
95 bond007 : Yep, and in most cases the PIC allows their use in the cases where there is an extended hold, even on a taxiway ... as we've mentioned. This has litt
96 NASBWI : Thank you! While I understand the frustrations of many over what is perceived to be simply an annoying rule, the rule is still there. You've got an i
97 Post contains images PSA53 : i almost feel that something is up with celebrities and the airlines. Cheap free press?It was on NBC network news tonight.So,with the rash of "mishaps
98 Post contains links SATexan : Here is AB's official response: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alec-b...n-airlines-service-_b_1135201.html
99 silentbob : I always love the "I'm sorry, but it's all their fault" letters. The continued need to denigrate the flight attendant in this case shows a particular
100 slcdeltarumd11 : Good for AA. I am sure he was at fault here he wouldnt put it away thinking im too big for rules obviously. He didnt comply with the seat belt sign or
101 ltbewr : We are seeing a growing number of incidents of conflicts between passengers on aircraft and flight staff. Part of this is from the speed and overwhelm
102 GALLEYSTEW : Have some of you flight attendant haters who have posted on this topic actually read the NY post article?? Witnesses have stated the flight attendant
103 bond007 : What a pathetic response! Not once does say he actually admit to doing anything wrong, and continues to degrade the FA. His only excuse is that other
104 wjcandee : Somebody else certainly at least edited this thing for the guy. But it's still pretty sad. Now he seems to be trying to recast "gym teacher" so it doe
105 Grid : Well, people and companies settle all the time without actually admitting doing anything wrong and pay large fines. Of course, they don't always cont
106 freakyrat : Jay Leno said that "The airline charged him a $15 get you're ass kicked off the plane fee".
107 CitationJet : LH does not allow cell phone usage inside the aircraft. I have been asked to turn mine off while the door was open and the aircraft was still boarding
108 Post contains images bond007 : I think you mean your second "to" to be a 'from" The main reason you can't use them when taxiing from the gate is to ensure that they will be turned
109 Post contains images Beta : Does this guy, Alec Baldwin, have some smart cookie working for him to tell him to shut up? Because the more he says about the matter, the more expose
110 Post contains images LMP737 : I'm shocked that Kim Bassinger would let such a catch get away from her.
111 Post contains images ual777uk : What I am puzzled with is why is he kicked off one AA flight but re booked onto another. He was not drunk so he did not need to sober up, he violated
112 lewis : At this point I would not believe either side on how this went down, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle. His reaction though was very childi
113 Post contains images PlanesNTrains : Oh brother....Today is a great day to be an FA at UA. Nothing says loving like welcoming an FA-abusing jerk onboard. I'll say. Glad they killed him o
114 jc2354 : It's interesting that Alec Baldwin cancelled his twitter account. I'm starting to think all of this was planned as a marketing ploy. How long will it
115 lewis : Not knowing why he was that angry with his daughter and just listening to a private message is not enough to put a stamp on a person. He may have don
116 ikramerica : I believe it's to make sure projectiles are put away in a timely manner as F/As have a lot of other things to do to prepare the cabin for departure,
117 PlanesNTrains : While true, I don't think we need to have a clinical diagnosis to call someone a jerk. I think we fall over ourselves sometimes to cut people slack -
118 Post contains links and images SATexan : This dude just doesn't go away! Here comes an addendum : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alec-b...lines-new-york-post_b_1136761.html
119 Post contains images zippyjet : Another contribution toward the degredation and rapid decline of this once great country. We are the United States of Attorneys!
120 PlanesNTrains : Yes, the fact that Alex Baldwin was a jerk on the plane is due to TSA. Good Lord... -Dave
121 Beta : Lighten up, Dave! Surely, you must have read my comment was made in jest. Secondly, in that paragraph I was not referencing specifically Mr Baldwin's
122 peanuts : I apologize for only reading the last eight posts on this thread as I really don't care to pay too much attention to these types of personalities but
123 PlanesNTrains : Well, the post I quoted didn't show your emoticons so I took it as typed. If it was in jest, my apologies. -Dave
124 silentbob : Only if you allow it to be one. It is what it is, and we all know the routine by now. I'm all for getting rid of the bloated farce of a government jo
125 Maverick623 : There is never any reason to talk to an 11-year old girl like that. Ever. Again, it doesn't excuse anything.
126 Post contains links PITrules : Baldwin is an ass, but this is too funny! http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...ers/1372901/#.TuUwbx7qc7A.facebook
127 ikramerica : "If you were ready to play JAILERS off of someone else's QUICHE and then realize you don't have the "I" you'd slam the door too!" on a side note: he
128 Post contains images bond007 : I love the way that since she had to ask 5 times, she's somehow at fault and he's not. As for delay ...."The door was closed they just announced that
129 PI767 : Funny, I have worked on the 727, 737, 757, 767, MD80 and Fokker 100..... and yet, in all of those aircraft, in all of the years I have been flying, t
130 ckfred : I was just watching Jay Leno. He mentioned that AA F/As want Baldwin's show, 30 Rock, pulled off AA's IFE systemwide. What is interesting is that AA s
131 bjorn14 : and his big fat ego. Do they have a plane big enough?
132 bjorn14 : Yeah, Capt. Steve Rodgers is only wearing 3 stripes. WTG SNL.
133 ckfred : Just to nitpick further, where are the "scrambled egg's on the bill of the hat? And if you ask me, the uniform was too dark. I would call the shade o
134 tommytoyz : Come on man! This stuff if funny! Giant Corporate PR using Face Book against an individual, haha. This was not a dangerous incident nor would have eve
135 Post contains images ikramerica : Well put. And this is what the hollywood brat felt too. Now, does he deserve special treatment? No. But when you are sitting there, delayed, with the
136 Beta : I don't know about you, but the rules are meant to be enforced, whether one agrees or respects said rules are irrelevant. That's reason enough for th
137 modesto2 : If the FA asked him to power down his electronic device five times (with no success), then the crew took the proper action in removing him from the fl
138 wepaman : I will love to if all air carriers get it together.... All electronic gaget most be turn off while we taxi to the runway, But is ok to turn them back
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