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Who Has Seen More UA 747s, LAX, JFK Or MIA?  
User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3301 posts, RR: 2
Posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2216 times:

I was thinking, which airport has had more UA 747 action since the 70s, LAX, JFK or MIA?

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User currently offlinetsnamm From United States of America, joined May 2005, 602 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2162 times:

Out of those 3 I'd have to say LAX, but if I had to guess the airport with the most SA)">UA 744 activity overall, I would have to guess SFO or maybe NRT...JFk saw mostly 763 with the exception of the NRT and HKG flts...MIA probably didn't see any. as far as i remember before they pulled the deep SA out altogether...

User currently offlinerjm777ual From UK - England, joined Nov 2011, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 2046 times:

LAX without a doubt. UA sends their 744's to Tampa for maintenance, and used to fly the 744 out of JFK in the 90's.


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User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8740 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1990 times:

JFK-NRT was one of the last transpacific routes to switch from 747-200 to 747-400. UA operated a special configured 747 for that route alone.

What MIA routes were 747? I thought they were mostly 767 and then 777s.

LAX had LAX-NRT, LAX-AKL, LAX-SYD & LAX-HKG for a while on 747s.

[Edited 2011-12-06 19:39:49]


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User currently offlinetimberwolf24 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 562 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1965 times:

I would say ORD has seen more UA 747s than JFK & MIA combined. ORD-NRT/HKG/PVG/LAX/HNL/IAD/LHR/FRA/SFO, these are routes that I can remember that have had 747's on them. There was a time were NRT was 2x daily on 744s and HKG was 10x a week on 747s.


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User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2167 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1956 times:

LAX many, many times over.

User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6083 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1945 times:

Hi !

MIA had EZE for a few years with a 741.

LAX also had KIX for a few years and also a second NRT flight. LAX also had 747s to HNL for many years.

LAX clearly had the most UA 747 flights as already stated.

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User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3301 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1921 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 3):
What MIA routes were 747? I thought they were mostly 767 and then 777s.




They used to fly 747 200s or 100s from MIA, to some destinations in South America during the 90s.

User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12559 posts, RR: 64
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1916 times:
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Quoting 747400sp (Thread starter):
I was thinking, which airport has had more UA 747 action since the 70s, LAX, JFK or MIA?

Just wondering - why didn't SFO or ORD make your list?


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User currently offline747400sp From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3301 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1890 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 8):
Just wondering - why didn't SFO or ORD make your list?






Well it simple, every aviation person, knows ORD get more UA 747s than anybody, now SFO, I did not think of them, but for the fun of it, let included SFO and ORD.

User currently offlinescorpy From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1792 times:

Quoting 747400sp (Reply 9):
Well it simple, every aviation person, knows ORD get more UA 747s than anybody, now SFO, I did not think of them, but for the fun of it, let included SFO and ORD.

SFO gets way more daily 744 movements @ UA than ORD does.

Order would be:

1) SFO
2) ORD
3) LAX

The 744 is not often seen at IAD or DEN and so far has not yet been scheduled out of EWR or IAH.

User currently onlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6083 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1733 times:

Quoting scorpy (Reply 10):
The 744 is not often seen at IAD or DEN and so far has not yet been scheduled out of EWR or IAH



UA used to fly EWR-NRT with 747s over ten years ago.

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User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1545 times:
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Definetly not MIA. Besides a flew 747 flights from Europe and Atlas Air, who else operates the 747 into MIA? The reason why MIA has more international passengers than LAX is because Miami is AA's major South American funneling airport, and AA does not operate the 747.

SFO might see more 747s than MIA


JFK vs LAX? who knows

User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7345 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1390 times:
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Quoting g500 (Reply 12):
Definetly not MIA. Besides a flew 747 flights from Europe and Atlas Air, who else operates the 747 into MIA? The reason why MIA has more international passengers than LAX is because Miami is AA's major South American funneling airport, and AA does not operate the 747.

Many of MIA "internatioal" flights are flown by A320, 737 and 757 since most destinations are within 3-5 hours flying time in the the Caribean or Latin America. MIA does see lots of European action, LHR is the biggest destination from MIA, with the European airlines.

User currently offlineADent From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1179 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1320 times:

Look at http://www.departedflights.com/UAMIAhub.html to see UA's history at MIA.

They didn't start international flying until about 1992. By 12/1/2005 there is no mainline service.

And per this (unreliable) thread: UA Miami-Latin America (by ContinentalEWR Aug 3 2000 in Civil Aviation) there wasn't much 747 traffic going thru there.

This link http://www.departedflights.com/MIAI96intro.html shows there was some 747-100/200 traffic in 1996.

So I really think MIA is the loser of the original three cities.

User currently offlineAADC10 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 1832 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1318 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 3):
LAX had LAX-NRT, LAX-AKL, LAX-SYD & LAX-HKG for a while on 747s.

In the boom times of the late 1990s during peak season, UA had double daily 747s (usually 1 744 and 1 742) SFO and LAX to NRT. The 742 was mostly F and C with only the section behind the aft midships galley Y. LAX and SFO also had some domestic 747 positioning flights to other hubs, DEN, ORD and IAD although not consistently. I remember many nearly empty 747 flights between LAX and DEN.

Going back to 1970, UA's flights were very different but after the purchase of the PA Pacific Division, I would think that NRT had the most 747 flights. Some of the 747 routes out of NRT were inter-Asia.

User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2167 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1304 times:

In 1997, UA was operating a 747-200 between MIA and EZE.

User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1293 times:

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 3):
LAX had LAX-NRT, LAX-AKL, LAX-SYD & LAX-HKG for a while on 747s.

Don't forget LAX-MEL. They actually did that route before QF did. QF picked up the 744ER and started undercutting UA, because they could fill the plane, and drove UA off the route.

Quoting scorpy (Reply 10):
The 744 is not often seen at IAD or DEN

IAD gets a fairly regular 744 in the summers and shoulder season.


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User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2042 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1285 times:

Quoting rjm777ual (Reply 2):
LAX without a doubt.

Agreed.

In the 1970s and 1980s, it wasn't uncommon for UA to fly LAX-HNL 4x or 5x / day with 747s.

UA 747s were also used regularly on LAX-JFK / ORD / DEN, and occasionally on LAX-CLE and LAX-DTW (when GM and Ford had assembly plants in southern California). UA even flew a 1x day LAX-SAN 747, as a tag on HNL-LAX.

Before deregulation, UA flew 747s MIA-CLE / PIT in the winter. UA's 747 service at JFK was mainly 1x or 2x day on JFK-LAX / SFO. I think UA's combined MIA and JFK 747 operations were less than their 747 operations on LAX-HNL alone.


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User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2409 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1246 times:

SFO by far has seen more 747 ops than any other UA station. SFO is not only one of their hubs, but also their main gateway to the pacific as well as their 747 maintenance base. Before the 777 came along, the only plane across the Pacific besides Hawaii was a 747 except for a few years when they had L-1011's. Even as late as the 1990's, UA still operated 747's on hub to hub flights from SFO to IAD and ORD, as well as flights to Hawaii.

I'm sure IAD has seen more 747 ops than JFK and MIA. At one time 747's were common on routes from IAD to LHR and FRA as well as a few other European destinations at one time or another. The 747's also flew from IAD to other hubs.

I'm willing to go out on a limb and say that NRT ranks second only to SFO for the number of UA 747 ops. At one time, the only type of UA plane you would see in NRT was a 747. Not only was there Trans-Pacific flights, but also Inter-Asia flights, all with 747's.

User currently offlinetimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6468 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1103 times:

Random years of Airport Activity Stats

1981 JFK 1066 UA 747 departures (all variants), ORD 1632, SFO 2170, LAX 2393

1987 JFK 752, ORD 1516, SFO 1548, LAX 1695

1993 JFK 595, ORD 2268, LAX 2069, SFO 5062

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